The Flash The Flash Season 3 Episode 8 - "Invasion"

[zenith16]

I like Cisco, but goddamn I wanted to see him get his ass kicked a bunch of times tonight.

yeah well he was sorta right about the nomore secrets thing I'm not sure how but stien daughter may be the result of that I don't get how. but it may

as I said the only issue I have with is and it's the same as for sara they are both hypercrit's cause what they wanted to do and sara doesn't realize she still did her own .

Other than that, I loved it. Some really bad ass scenes. Barry leading Supergirl all over the city was freakin' awesome.

yep it was

 

[Lencho01]

I thought it was a fun episode overall. A bit rushed and Cisco is such a drag.

 

[O'Haire]

I'm not sure how but stien daughter may be the result of that I don't get how. but it may

I'm pretty sure that was his own fault. He told his younger self to love his wife more than science or whatever. That extra bit of lovin' resulted in a kid.

 

[Frodo]

Great episode. Cisco was annoying. Sorry, he just was. He's justified in his anger but in this episode in particular, the mopeyness was too much for me,and he became less sympathetic the less he was focused on the future of humanity and the more he was focused on being mad at Barry. I think its more a problem of how they executed it than anything else.

Other than that, everything else was excellent.

 

[zenith16]

I thought it was a fun episode overall. A bit rushed and Cisco is such a drag.

his reason are understand able but and this happens inthe comics too often too it becom,e problem when they have m lay on thick and have that same character doing the dumping be a hypocrite with it. i can't that most of you can't be allowed with that when your acting stupid your self alot of the time .

 

[Paradox1]

This was probably one of the top ten episodes of the entire Flash Series. It was so cool from almost start to finish.

 

[zenith16]

I'm pretty sure that was his own fault. He told his younger self to love his wife more than science or whatever. That extra bit of lovin' resulted in a kid.

lol then that shouldn't be a terrible thing. but it's weird that pst self of his that he keeps meeting stry so much from the path he took he might as well be from another reality time line /history.

the fact that younger version of him self in the past went off to talk to darhk was messed up with how off script stein said he was. it seem's that younger version is determined to change everything for his older stein future no matter what.

All with out knowing his former future.

He might as well leave older stein a letter saying I'm determined to f up your present, so nahhhhhhhhhh.

 

[Avenging Angel]

Iris needs to be off this show. She hasn't changed since season 1 and already I roll my eyes when she's on screen. She's useless in every way. She's just a love interest that does nothing else.

Aside from that, there was so much action going on. Loved Barry and Kara's interactions, their chemistry is still strong from last time. I liked the introductions scene. Getting everyone in the same room must have been a trip for the crew.

Really loved the action scenes, and the alien subplot was cool, paying homage to the comics. Diggle continues to make me laugh. Barry always seems to trip him up when he shows up.

Seeing everyone gang up on Barry was awkward but they needed to get it out. Still seeing his rear get torn was unsettling, especially when they could have been doing research instead of scolding him. I get that their pissed. It's also really OOC for Cisco to be this pissed at Barry. I think something is going to happen between he and the rest of the team that will change everything.

Spoiler

I think he is the one who will turn evil not Caitlin as Killer Frost.

Seeing Wally wanna fight was cool. Yeah it was his first time but he was brave. I felt for him when he got knocked out.

All and all a good start to the crossover. Shame it lacked Vibe and Caitlin's powers. Curious to see what Arrow has planned. Looks interesting from what I've seen.

 

[Herolee10]

Can someone explain to me on why Steel wasn't in this episode? They didn't even give a reason as to why he was missing.

 

[vantheman77]

Can someone explain to me on why Steel wasn't in this episode? They didn't even give a reason as to why he was missing.

If you mean Citizen Steel, Sara said that he and Vixen are manning the Waverider since they're newbies. I wonder if Heatwave and Firestorm will be in the Arrow part of the Crossover since they were not abducted with the Arrow people.

 

[zenith16]

Can someone explain to me on why Steel wasn't in this episode? They didn't even give a reason as to why he was missing.

sara told those two to hang back for the time being on the ship if they need it or the ship it's self . they will be there for the show down on legends

 

[Herolee10]

If you mean Citizen Steel, Sara said that he and Vixen are manning the Waverider since they're newbies. I wonder if Heatwave and Firestorm will be in the Arrow part of the Crossover since they were not abducted with the Arrow people.

Ah I see...thanks for the info. Yeah, Sara said that line so fast that I didn't really get it until now.

 

[Herolee10]

Even if she joined their universe it wouldn't really change much. Barry doesn't show up that often on Arrow and neither would Kara. She's already guaranteed to show up at least once a year for the big cross over and we know they will do another for the musical so it wouldnt change anything in the long run.

I think the biggest difference here is that the problems that Kara seems to face are bigger in scale that involves the entire planet as opposed to one particular city. If anyone big from Kara's or Superman's rogues gallery came to invade Earth, then it'd be no different than what they are doing right now against the Dominators.

Good episode, It's interesting how Oliver has more belief in Barry as opposed to Barry in himself giving how he feel's the weight of "Flashpoint".

I really loved that...it was nice to see someone like Oliver on Barry's side when everyone was so pissed off against him. And yeah, most of the people that criticized Barry really had no right to be pissed off at him.

Sara has attempted to changed history for herself....even begged Rip Hunter to do so for her at one point. Jefferson wanted to change history by preventing his dad from dying in combat and even Cisco wanted Barry to change history for him to save his brother at first.

The Barry that constantly said no "him" originally isn't even (technically) the same Barry that we see right now.

 

[zenith16]

I think the biggest difference here is that the problems that Kara seems to face are bigger in scale that involves the entire planet as opposed to one particular city. If anyone big from Kara's or Superman's rogues gallery came to invade Earth, then it'd be no different than what they are doing right now against the Dominators.

exception being livewire Reactron and silver banshee. Most(the latter is unclear with silver banshee>>) of which are meta hunman's

Originally Posted by The Caped Knight
Good episode, It's interesting how Oliver has more belief in Barry as opposed to Barry in himself giving how he feel's the weight of "Flashpoint".

I really loved that...it was nice to see someone like Oliver on Barry's side when everyone was so pissed off against him. And yeah, most of the people that criticized Barry really had no right to be pissed off at him.

Sara has attempted to changed history for herself....even begged Rip Hunter to do so for her at one point. Jefferson wanted to change history by preventing his dad from dying in combat and even Cisco wanted Barry to change history for him to save his brother at first.

The Barry that constantly said no "him" originally isn't even (technically) the same Barry that we see right now.

yeah oliver was on barrys side, til the others came back brainwashed and then he suddenly blamed barry for it. Oliver you Bastard. You brought him up to tear him down for that? that was your fault too then. lol oy.

 

[Legendver2]

yeah oliver was on barrys side, til the others came back brainwashed and then he suddenly blamed barry for it. Oliver you Bastard. You brought him up to tear him down for that? that was your fault too then. lol oy.

I think Ollie was more or less joking during that part.

Overall, loved the episode. And Supergirl seems to be hotter in here than in her own show. As Supergirl isn't part of this universe, and I follow both Flash and Arrow, Legends is the only show I don't watch, so anyone care to explain some of the plotlines from that show that were touched upon in this ep? Was the future recording from Barry featured in a Legends ep? Spoiler tags pls as a courtesy to others

 

[Osiris-Rex]

I think Ollie was more or less joking during that part.

Overall, loved the episode. And Supergirl seems to be hotter in here than in her own show. As Supergirl isn't part of this universe, and I follow both Flash and Arrow, Legends is the only show I don't watch, so anyone care to explain some of the plotlines from that show that were touched upon in this ep? Was the future recording from Barry featured in a Legends ep? Spoiler tags pls as a courtesy to others

Spoiler

Stein meeting a daughter he didn't know existed was the main one from Legend of Tomorrow. They had been hinting at some mystery woman in hallucinations Stein was having in previous episodes, so now we know who she is.

 

[zenith16]

I think Ollie was more or less joking during that part.

I don't think barry believed that. and that was just bad timing if it was joke.


any as said when I addressed every else in larger post to almost every else

Enjoyable episode but i'm tired of the 'I'm mad at Barry' brigade. It's getting so annoying.

Ever time they do that both I and my baby sister the youngest in my immediate family just do the song for everybody hates chris and insert barry name . lol

they mightg as wel name the show that

Overall, loved the episode. And Supergirl seems to be hotter in here than in her own show. As Supergirl isn't part of this universe, and I follow both Flash and Arrow, Legends is the only show I don't watch, so anyone care to explain some of the plotlines from that show that were touched upon in this ep? Was the future recording from Barry featured in a Legends ep? Spoiler tags pls as a courtesy to others

the plot that was toched was the message from the future that stein and his partner jackson that make up fire storm picked addressed to Rip hunter their missing captain of their time ship.

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there's also Sten daughter of which he didn't who the woman was shown in legends in ripple effect he suffered he just felt connected to her

 

[famicommander]

I think this episode has made a very convincing argument for why Supergirl's Earth should NEVER be fully merged with the Arrowverse. She's too damn powerful. Throw in Superman, Martian Manhunter and (in the future) Miss Martian and Mon-El too? Yeah...not a good idea, imo, geektastic as it may sound.

Martian Manhunter is weak to fire. Firestorm and Heat Wave, anyone?

Mon El is vulnerable to bullets. Like the kind that Joe West, Wild Dog, Spartan, Quentin Lance, Harbinger, et all use.

Superman and Supergirl are vulnerable to magic, Kryptonite, and whatever plot contrivances the writers can come up with.

Barry can run fast enough to break the time barrier, but still gets roughed up by comparatively weak metahumans pretty much every week. It's just a part of the superhero genre.

There's no logical way that the likes of Batman, Green Arrow, the Question, Speedy, Nightwing, Black Canary, etc should be relevant in fights involving the likes of Superman, Green Lantern, The Flash, etc. And yet we all love the Justice League (or the Avengers... you're telling me Hawkeye and Black Widow belong with the likes of Hulk and Thor?).

 

[vantheman77]

It's clear that Oliver, Kara, and Felicity are on Barry's side while most of everyone else is against him.

The Legends should have told Diggle about the year 2046 concerning his future son, Connor Hawke.

I will bet you that the crossover will have lots of deleted scenes.

Since Barry heard the entire message from 2056, I wonder if he will make another appearance on Legends.

 

[zenith16]

It's clear that Oliver, Kara, and Felicity are on Barry's side while most of everyone else is against him.
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A hem Ray's fine with barry . he was the first to say they'd fallow barry after he save them all from the mind control

The Legends should have told Diggle about the year 2046 concerning his future son, Connor Hawke.

with the exception of captain lance they have seen any of the arrow team. and the others don't know hi8m it was odd the way Sara was all over Barry, seeing this their first onscreen meeting . beside hypocritical ness

 

[Legendver2]

Spoiler

Stein meeting a daughter he didn't know existed was the main one from Legend of Tomorrow. They had been hinting at some mystery woman in hallucinations Stein was having in previous episodes, so now we know who she is.

Thanks man! What about the future recording from Barry?

Some more thoughts on the episode. I really like that Ollie is the one who understands mistakes and consequences, seeing as he's the most experienced in that entire group. As for Diggle, I think it was pretty clear that his son replaced the daughter, as Barry said baby John WAS baby Sara. As for as his reaction, I'll never really know how that would play out realistically, since he technically didn't lose a daughter, he has no emotional attachment to that daughter, so can he really be that pissed off?

As far as all the self fulfilling prophecy tropes in Flash, it's getting a bit old with people having powers. Everyone don't want powers, but unfortunately some do, but instead of learning to control it, they try to suppress it until it blows up all at once. And if Caitlin learned how to control her powers instead of hiding it, I'm sure she would've been more emotionally stable when using her powers.

As for Wally, all this objection to his training is just dumb. The dude is faster then all of them, if he chooses to fight and help, they can't do anything to stop him, and without training, he's more liable to get hurt. So if he's going to do it anyways, why not prepare him for it. Today was a prime example. If he had training, he probably wouldn't have gotten hurt.

And Cisco has a knack for spilling secrets. First Caitlin's powers, now about Flashpoint. This just validates Ollie's pension for keeping secrets all the time. This resulted in the team going on a rescue mission blind without their team leaders.

 

[zenith16]

Thanks man! What about the future recording from Barry?

Some more thoughts on the episode. I really like that Ollie is the one who understands mistakes and consequences, seeing as he's the most experienced in that entire group. As for Diggle, I think it was pretty clear that his son replaced the daughter, as Barry said baby John WAS baby Sara. As for as his reaction, I'll never really know how that would play out realistically, since he technically didn't lose a daughter, he has no emotional attachment to that daughter, so can he really be that pissed off?

AsI said a page over

Well, losing a brother, a daughter, powers ya don't want....hmmmm those are kinda big. He was selfish, there is just now way around that, and he is going to have to live with it.

two thing I have to say about that with the daughter thing dggile supposedly lost a daughter and stein gained one .


the other my baby sister said the same thing I was thing when oliver mention to diggle for the first time that diggle had a daughter . he made sound like diggle has twin children and she disappeared instead having the genders switched. so we we aren't sure if diggle got that message.

And it was barry that re mentioned it to oliver in the time vault looking at the new letter holo projector so diggle may not know the full details and might think he had two children and one was taken from him with out his knowing.

 

[antsman41]

I'll take this episode over MoS or BvS any day.

 

[zenith16]

I'll take this episode over MoS or BvS any day.

and to that you mean Martha, among alot of other things . yeah we know

 

[zenith16]

Thanks man! What about the future recording from Barry?

Some more thoughts on the episode. I really like that Ollie is the one who understands mistakes and consequences

lol I still think he was beinga jerk when he turned barry last minute. and wasn't joking cause Barry didn't get that ether.

And Cisco has a knack for spilling secrets. First Caitlin's powers, now about Flashpoint. This just validates Ollie's pension for keeping secrets all the time. This resulted in the team going on a rescue mission blind without their team leaders.

no it's worse when they find out later

the reaction will always be the same cause the writers over lay it thick with dog piling( like watchng a hole's in high school while bulling is happening and it really get out of control ), Barry was gonna get the every body hates him theme song treatment, no matter what, cause that what the writers do in comic's.

It happens on the marvel side of the comics industry recently and prior and dc does it too, Alot . it's just bad habits and trends.