The "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) thread - Part 9

[Snikt]

They also hired new writers to rewrite the third act, and the reshoots caused the budget to increase significantly, which isn't good for a penny-pinching production like FF's.

Yes, all of this I already knew. But it still made for a better film. Maybe this will work as well.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

FF just feels like The Amazing Spider-Man movies to me. Only difference is that it took me much longer to realize that FF is (most likely) going to blow. Both series look to waste super talented young actors.

I thought World War Z was a bad film so I don't agree that the reshoots saved it quality wise.

 

[Orba]

WWZ went back to re-shoot it's entire 3rd act. That movie didn't turn out to be a train wreck ... pretty entertaining.

Its also a movie that took pretty much nothing from the source material except the name.

 

[Eddie]

They'll need to invent a new type of home insurance after Trank. Building insurance? Check. Contents insurance? Check. Trank insurance? Nope.



You better watch out
He's gonna get high
Batton's in doubt
I'm telling you why
Fanta-Trank is coming to town

He's making a film
He's shooting it twice
Gonna find out who's telling us lies.
Fanta-Trank is coming to town

Who knows if it's a sleeper?
It could be make or break.
Who knows if it is bad or good
Cause there's zip for goodness sake!

O You better watch out
He's gonna get high
Batton's in doubt
I'm telling you why
Fanta-Trank is coming to town

Its also a movie that took pretty much nothing from the source material except the name.

So what you're saying is it's exactly like this movie.

 

[Snikt]

Its also a movie that took pretty much nothing from the source material except the name.

I've not read the book. But I was told going into it, the film was vastly different from the book.

A great adaptation? No. But a cool zombie flick? Yes.

 

[Orba]

So what you're saying is it's exactly like this movie.

Pretty much. A shame too, World War Z is a great book.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Yes, all of this I already knew. But it still made for a better film. Maybe this will work as well.

And I'm pointing out that the WWZ comparison doesn't quite apply, because it has some elements (new writers) that don't apply to FF, and others that might (ballooning budget) but in a negative sense.

 

[Eddie]

Pretty much. A shame too, World War Z is a great book.

Indeed. I've yet to see the movie, but the Honest Trailer was pretty funny.

 

[Snikt]

And I'm pointing out that the WWZ comparison doesn't quite apply, because it has some elements (new writers) that don't apply to FF, and others that might (ballooning budget) but in a negative sense.

You're looking to much into it. I'm simply saying WWZ went back for reshoots and it turned out pretty cool.

Fan4 is going back for reshoots...and it may turn out ok...that's all I'm saying.

 

[Orba]

I've not read the book. But I was told going into it, the film was vastly different from the book.

A great adaptation? No. But a cool zombie flick? Yes.

The book is very different, there are no fast zombies just the classic slow ones, there is no "hero" etc. The whole book is a series of first person accounts taking you through various events over the course of a zombie pandemic, all recorded around ten years after it had ended.

 

[Snikt]

The book is very different, there are no fast zombies just the classic slow ones, there is no "hero" etc. The whole book is a series of first person accounts taking you through various events over the course of a zombie pandemic, all recorded around ten years after it had ended.

Yeah my uncle told me how the book went. He did say the character of Brad Pitt (Gerry), was in the book. But like you said, he's the "hero" or main character in the book.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Sigh

 

[Eddie]

The book would have made a much better television series than a film. Each account could have been an episode featuring a different cast to tell one person's story of the zombie apocalypse.

Back to Fantastic Four, though! I'm thinking some of the millions going into this reshoot are probably going to a new Doctor Doom costume. Not because they want to fix it, mind you. They just need a new one because the original was mistaken for garbage and thrown in the dumpster.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

That dr doom was rough man lol

 

[Eddie]

That dr doom was rough man lol

Only the clothing. That Dark Elf mask looked pretty smooth.

 

[Orba]

The book would have made a much better television series than a film. Each account could have been an episode featuring a different cast to tell one person's story of the zombie apocalypse.

Oh I agree its pretty much unfilmable as a movie but could make a great TV series. For me the perfect model would be the classic British documentary tv series "The World At War" each episode focused on one piece and was full of interviews and first hand accounts, along with actual footage.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

You're looking to much into it. I'm simply saying WWZ went back for reshoots and it turned out pretty cool.

Fan4 is going back for reshoots...and it may turn out ok...that's all I'm saying.

But as I said, one cannot assume a similar outcome just because the two projects underwent the same process, when one project lacks the elements that lead to the other achieving the outcome that it did. And the process still resulted in a costlier production, which is another strike against this penny-pinching production.

 

[Xrathe]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/01...vie-mess-goes-reshoot-louisiana-sets-rebuilt/

Keeps looking worse and worse for this piece of junk.

 

[Urich Leeds]

Ninja Turtles did a massive reshoot and replaced William Fichtner Shredder with an actual Japanese Shredder. Maybe this reshoot will replace Domashev with an actual Latverian Doom.

And believe it or not, that reshoot (which was meant to appease fans) just made things worse. Rather than being an entire alt take, it made half the original story and half something new.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

And believe it or not, that reshoot (which was meant to appease fans) just made things worse. Rather than being an entire alt take, it made half the original story and half something new.

And that's the problem. A good film has a good script that tells a good story and a talented director uses that script and his or her vision to create a solid, cohesive film that works from beginning to end.

When the script is constantly being reworked and a studio is cobbling together a film by commitee, it rarely turns out well.

 

[RAE072]

And believe it or not, that reshoot (which was meant to appease fans) just made things worse. Rather than being an entire alt take, it made half the original story and half something new.

The original William Fichtner Shredder story was still bad. Because other than that and a few other small things it was basically the same.

That movie was doomed the day they gave it to Michael Bay.

 

[Human Torch]

I think the re-write will be along the lines of TMNT. Halfway through the movie,reshoots will make you realize Domashev is the step son of the "realz Dr Doom" who happens to be the monarch of Latvaria. All Kebbell's lines will be dubbed over by a Hungarian voice actor and Fox will expect the fans to be appeased.

 

[Flint Marko]

Lol, it's getting tougher and tougher to deny that they've got a stinker on their hands. I've never seen a studio play coy like this with a film, and I've been following news like this for almost a decade.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Honestly unless a film has massive John Carter style reshoots I don't look at reshoots as a big deal.

That doesn't change the fact that Fox is hiding the picture. The fact is no defender has been able to adequately explain Fox's hesitance to even release something as innocuous as a logo or a cute set picture.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Seems likely this movie is going to prove that Chronicle was just good because of the actors and Max Landis.