The Official Bane Costume Thread - Part 2

[DAVIDYR1]

I wouldnt even say David's jacket is 75% accurate. It's materials are WAY off and the zipper down the front is awful. I tried the vest on at Sdcc and it's a cool replica that's it. It isn't close to the original costume piece at all.

I love UD replicas and everything they make BUT there bane vest is not the way to go!

Hey Everyone!!
Well first off...I'm just thrilled that you guys are talking about our Bane Jacket, which yes does transform into the vest.

Just to add to what Rdmaul says above....our goods are NOT costumes. These are fully functional 'wearable' jackets and suitable motorcycle gear. By that definition alone they're not 100% accurate to the screen used items. This for all of our goods shown at udreplicas.com. Now that said, we try to take what was seen on film and transform it into something wearable by everyday standards...and sometimes material choices have to be factored into this decision. I mean let's face it....no one is going to wear a foam latex costume as everyday clothing, but our TDKRises Batman Jacket alone makes one heck of an 'everyday' wearable leather jacket. See what I mean?

With Bane, we chose to make a 'jacket'...one that could be worn whenever and wherever possible...and with removable sleeves and collar to boot so yes it will transform into the vest. Also, correct that there's is a zipper down the front and rightfully so considering that it's NOT a costume...but rather a jacket/vest.

It was never designed to be used as a costume...which is why I'm flattered that it's even being suggested here...but this is everyday outerwear and not costume goods that we're making. Our client base is eagerly awaiting the release of our latest TDKRises leather items and while Bane is not a costume item....its intended purpose should result in a rather popular selling item...key word being 'should', but we'll soon see.

Our goods are meant to be practical, easy to wear...and safe for riding and of course we go that extra mile to make them as accurate as possible however there is a difference between an intended costume replica and our leather garment replicas.

See what I mean...

We strive for quality and accuracy...and our goods are Absolutely built to last and used on a daily basis...but as outerwear. Some riders may also use them in other ways, but our main product focus is functional outerwear...not the costume aspect - as much as we do try to emphasize the 'screen accurate' look of our goods...they're not replica costumes. I hope that helps!

David

 

[DAVIDYR1]

Don't take this in a bad way Tyler, but please don't state details about what others may have had access to, unless you were part of developing that product. As he (UD) did not have access to the actual vest(s), materials, or measurements, and merely created his from pictures, just as everyone else has had to do. You are just falsely promoting a product without actual facts, and frankly belittling RDMaul's vest maker's efforts and even the SiQ vest, which are far more accurate.

That being said, I'm sure the UD Bane vest will do fine if you need to get by with an ok looking vest, or for safety while riding a motorcycle though. For the $ to accuracy ratio though, the costumebase offering is a better choice for most folks.

Dan,
Why are 'you' speaking for me? This is rather unwise of you when a photo of myself with the screen used suits...all 3 actually...is already making its rounds on the internet. Maybe you haven't seen it, but it is in this thread.
I also don't recall stating anything publicly if I did or didn't inspect the screen used goods in person....why? Because we have yet to formally release the full details on this garment and its creation...not to mention the rest of our TDKRises items which may include more Bane.

I've been on this forum for a long time, and think it's obvious that our goods are not for everyone...some dig what we do and others don't. It's clothing...and for those that have a strong emotional connection to this genre this type of clothing can be a lot of fun!!

Like I said above, I'm just thrilled our items are being discussed in some form or another...and I hope I'm able to set the record straight for the time being at least.



David

 

[Rdmaul]

David, I am glad your in here actually to bring some sense of this. I know you took my comments as not to be bashing your product as I have stated before UD makes incredible products BUT to say they arent accurate for costume application.

also this quote intrigues me....ALOT

not to mention the rest of our TDKRises items which may include more Bane.

 

[AZspidey]

David I love your stuff, hell I even own the TDK suit you offer.

My only issue is the Bane model lol. No offense to the guy but I think the shots might look better if we didnt see his face. I know you dont want to advertise it with the mask on because you are steering clear of the whole costume thing, but maybe have him wearing the red motorcycle helmet from the movie or even a custom helmet with the mask airbrushed on. That I think would be pretty cool and still keeping with the character. Its like your Rinzler suit, half of the sell is seeing the suits with helmet. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work though.
-Todd

 

[Spamtron]

Dan,
Why are 'you' speaking for me? This is rather unwise of you when a photo of myself with the screen used suits...all 3 actually...is already making its rounds on the internet. Maybe you haven't seen it, but it is in this thread.
I also don't recall stating anything publicly if I did or didn't inspect the screen used goods in person....why? Because we have yet to formally release the full details on this garment and its creation...not to mention the rest of our TDKRises items which may include more Bane.

I've been on this forum for a long time, and think it's obvious that our goods are not for everyone...some dig what we do and others don't. It's clothing...and for those that have a strong emotional connection to this genre this type of clothing can be a lot of fun!!

Like I said above, I'm just thrilled our items are being discussed in some form or another...and I hope I'm able to set the record straight for the time being at least.



David

Wasn't speaking for you any more that Tyler was speaking for you. He made unfounded statements about your Bane vest/jacket being made to exact specs of the movie vest, which as you yourself confirm is not the case. And as I stated makes for fine motorcycle gear, but for costuming specifically may not be the best route, as we were on the subject of accurate Bane vests.
Plenty of people have gotten pictures of/with the screen used outfits in person as much have gone on various public tours surrounding the movie. If you did indeed have a screen used vest in hand while developing yours, that is clearly something you should be public about, because the studio sources say no one got to examine in person any of the screen used vests prior to their public showings. Many license holders have to go off pictures and not the actual film pieces in person, but if you had further access that would be great for your line.
I've been around here for about 6 years myself... and like you said, our stuff isn't for everyone, and fills specific niche areas. I have had fans of my work relish to others about it without ever holding my gear in hand before, and have stated to those, "As much as I appreciate the praise, please don't make a comparison without actually holding my jacket."
I am sure you have experienced the same, and have much more pride when a fan of your work can come up to your booth at a show, and state "WOW" about your product in person.

 

[LPj0k3R]

Hey, guys UPDATE.

I had to restart my mask because the paint was fallen of, so I searched for a paint which is elastic and hold on silicon/rubber. I end up on Acryl colour, which works pretty well. The grille I made out of a piece of plastic and screwed holes in it. The head pieces on the side are made out of foam sheets, which I will also use for the rest of the head piece. Next step are the tubes. So this is what I have so far, let me know what you think. And don't give too much on the lightning; in real the colour looks better:

 

[DAVIDYR1]

David, I am glad your in here actually to bring some sense of this. I know you took my comments as not to be bashing your product as I have stated before UD makes incredible products BUT to say they arent accurate for this costume use.

also this quote intrigues me....ALOT

Absolutely bud!!! ....not to mention, and I should have said so above but it was great meeting you at SDCC!! No, there was no bashing in your posts, but I think it was high time for me to chime in and clarify a few things about what it is 'exactly' that UD Replicas does.... t:

Think of us always as clothing first....with strong emphasis on quality and accuracy. Our goods are built to last and without a doubt considered high end product merchandise.

TylerHaslett,
I just want to give you a shout out and thanks for your posts...I'm very grateful for the support you guys are showing time and time again...year after year.
Rock On bud!!

David

 

[Rdmaul]

This is why you, your company and your products have such a High reputation David. It was absolutely my pleasure to meet you at SDCC, Bryan Morton being a good friend of mine practically dragged me to the booth knowing I would want to see the vest and the Captain America suit....which if I had my way (my wife says No) would be mine!

Like I said above it is always good to read straight from the source on these issues!

 

[DAVIDYR1]

Wasn't speaking for you any more that Tyler was speaking for you. He made unfounded statements about your Bane vest/jacket being made to exact specs of the movie vest, which as you yourself confirm is not the case. And as I stated makes for fine motorcycle gear, but for costuming specifically may not be the best route, as we were on the subject of accurate Bane vests.
Plenty of people have gotten pictures of/with the screen used outfits in person as much have gone on various public tours surrounding the movie. If you did indeed have a screen used vest in hand while developing yours, that is clearly something you should be public about, because the studio sources say no one got to examine in person any of the screen used vests prior to their public showings. Many license holders have to go off pictures and not the actual film pieces in person, but if you had further access that would be great for your line.
I've been around here for about 6 years myself... and like you said, our stuff isn't for everyone, and fills specific niche areas. I have had fans of my work relish to others about it without ever holding my gear in hand before, and have stated to those, "As much as I appreciate the praise, please don't make a comparison without actually holding my jacket."
I am sure you have experienced the same, and have much more pride when a fan of your work can come up to your booth at a show, and state "WOW" about your product in person.

Dan,
Really?
I don't know why you feel the need to tell me what to say, or what to do with my business. This is the second time and second forum I've had to tell you this.
Furthermore, you associate yourself to me by words such as 'us' and 'what we do'...and quite frankly it's starting to get a little annoying. You have no personal, professional or business relationship with me or UD Replicas...and lately you've been speaking for me a little too much. There is no 'we' here. I'm also asking you to simply stop putting words in my mouth.
I speak for our goods, not you....please don't take this the wrong way, but I don't comment or speak for you and your wares so I'm asking you to show me the same courtesy.
This way threads like this don't get sidetracked, and forum members don't think someone is trolling a thread. Not to mention that I'm certainly not looking for or interested in any drama.

I stated earlier that I'm more than happy to answer questions that members may have....with me there are no assumptions. I can offer facts...not, 'well I heard this and that..."

David

 

[Spamtron]

I have never spoke for you. Do not put words in my mouth. You started the 'we' stuff, and the baiting. I do only state verified facts.

back on topic please.

 

[AZspidey]

Im getting real close to finishing this mask...
-Todd

 

[Spamtron]

Sweet news AZ, and to state the obvious, can't wait to see it all come together!

 

[AZspidey]

Yeah I might post one more pic before it is finished and then it will be out to the photo shoot. Once those pics come back Ill post them up.
-Todd

 

[jonnywhc]

I remember the days when I thought ''wow, mask..vest..this Bane costume will be easy''

 

[TylerHaslett]

David, glad to see you post here, been a fan of your stuff since at least 2003. i let a friend of mine know about your bat gear recently, and he placed an order about a month ago after talking to you at sdcc (i told him to look you up).

even back 10 years ago, you were producing awesome stuff, and even back then i was praising your work highly. i very admire fellow artists, and know that it only feels right to share my feelings towards others work as it's very inspiring to see that hardwork and dedication come forth in physical items.
there are always "haters" online, or in person, etc, and they base their hate in jealousy. they think if they compliment someone that it makes themselves look "weak" or something i dont know, but someone would have to literally be blind not to look at the work via pictures and send a compliment or two.

and like someone pointed out, asking me why i share others work: its because i respect their work and like it and know others will too. i dont engage in compliments to "Get something out of it". i compliment hard work because it deserves it. simple as that.

To the spamotron guy: lets just settle down a bit?

 

[TylerHaslett]

tyler, it was alginate with plaster bandages over it as a support shell. the process was not the issue, it was the alginate not adhering to the plaster bandages and then the material used to make the positive mold was uncooperative.
i did wind up with a big chunk of my hair ripped out when we removed the back of the mold from my head(that was fun- and yes i did wear a bald cap), but that was the only plaster directly in contact with me. thank you for your concern, but i am sure if my discomfort inside the shell was from anything worse than claustrophobia (my brain being boiled, for example) i would have clawed the thing of regardless.
the friend who did it for me had done it before so i was confident he knew what he was doing. again, the only thing i was really asking was about the actual casting material and how to keep the alginate from coming un-stuck from the shell.

embed some cotton in the last layer of the front area of the alginate when doing a headcast. that way the front section can lock into the paster wraps.

or go to the dollar store, get an ice cube tray and before doing the alginate cast, pour in some alginate into the tray to make mold keys to place on the top of the last layer of alginate. that way, the shell has registration keys to lock into.

 

[Jokerthug]

Hey guys I am selling my JBROWN BANE MASK. It is brand new and unpainted. I would like to just sell it unpainted, but if someone wants it painted I can do that as well. There is no wait time, it is ready to ship. I just changed my mind and am doing a different costume for halloween this year. Selling it at COST. Please PM or email me if interested. Thanks -Matt [email protected]

 

[Loviatar]

embed some cotton in the last layer of the front area of the alginate when doing a headcast. that way the front section can lock into the paster wraps.

or go to the dollar store, get an ice cube tray and before doing the alginate cast, pour in some alginate into the tray to make mold keys to place on the top of the last layer of alginate. that way, the shell has registration keys to lock into.

thanks man, i have to do my buddy's this weekend and this will help out a lot

 

[MrWaynesDouble]

im getting real close to finishing this mask...
-todd

yay!!!

 

[DAVIDYR1]

David, glad to see you post here, been a fan of your stuff since at least 2003. i let a friend of mine know about your bat gear recently, and he placed an order about a month ago after talking to you at sdcc (i told him to look you up).

even back 10 years ago, you were producing awesome stuff, and even back then i was praising your work highly. i very admire fellow artists, and know that it only feels right to share my feelings towards others work as it's very inspiring to see that hardwork and dedication come forth in physical items.
there are always "haters" online, or in person, etc, and they base their hate in jealousy. they think if they compliment someone that it makes themselves look "weak" or something i dont know, but someone would have to literally be blind not to look at the work via pictures and send a compliment or two.

and like someone pointed out, asking me why i share others work: its because i respect their work and like it and know others will too. i dont engage in compliments to "Get something out of it". i compliment hard work because it deserves it. simple as that.

To the spamotron guy: lets just settle down a bit?

Thanks bud, that's all very kind of you to say. It seems that lately many questions are being asked here, so I decided who better than myself to address them...right?

The bottom line is we're all Batman Fans, and it's a lot of fun talking about all things Bat related....but that doesn't mean that everything discussed is for 'everyone' discussing it.
My hope is that our path of quality products and respected accuracy continue to impress you all with each and every item we produce.

Todd,
Wow that's a great pic! Good for you bud!!!!!
Our BANE model is pretty awesome actually. t: He's built like a tank and looks fantastic, but...I do like the orange helmet idea, and maybe that's something for the appropriate garment to consider when ready to shoot it.

David

 

[Thebanewagon]

I bought some WWII M43 boots how should I go about weathering them I would post a picture but even the link button isn't letting me post so... yeah I'll keep trying

 

[Rdmaul]

http://http://www.google.com/imgres...w=210&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:88

Link Doesnt work!

 

[Thebanewagon]

Link Doesnt work!

Yeah I figured that out lol I'm going to keep trying though

 

[Thebanewagon]

Ahh I got it yes these are the boots minus the front strap which should be easy enough to add and maybe some different laces they aren't the exact boots but they are pretty close

 

[THEINSANIAC]

Yeah I figured that out lol I'm going to keep trying though

LoL - The link works. You just had a few extra "http://www." in front.

How's this?
http://www.militarytour.com/reproductions/ww11/American/Uniforms/M43Boot.htm

Good find btw...