The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2

[Mister Meddle]

I prefer the Returns emblem just because it's nearly identical as the iconic oval emblem that you see everywhere.

 

[Senator Pleasury]

That's precisely why I prefer the B89 symbol. The BR one looks too comic-y for a movie (I can only imagine how much criticism this could trigger). I thought the B89 symbol was beautiful, close enough to the comics but more like a bat and less like a cartoony representation of a bat. In fact I prefer the Batman forever symbol because, even when exactly like the BR or comics ones, it raised enough from the surface of the suit so to acquire its own cachet.

I also never liked the Batman Begins symbol. For all the realism and plausibility of the suit itself, the symbol looked like a bat drawn by someone with really poor drawing skills.

 

[Kane52630]

Both are "comic-y" ...hell all of them are "comic-y".

 

[Senator Pleasury]

Both are "comic-y" ...hell all of them are "comic-y".

But not every Batman suit - to quote just an example - is so comic-y to the point of being gray spandex and a blue cape, are they?

 

[Kane52630]

One of my favorite lines.

http://kane52630.tumblr.com/post/58848732910/my-name-is-not-oswald-penguin-batman-returns

 

[Cain]

Yeah I loved that inverse homage to The Elephant Man.

 

[Comics N' Toons]

i wish Penguin would have been as SAM HAMM scripted him... mobster, gangster, both human and monster. Not a sewer dwelling freak!

 

[Hordakfan]

Yeah I loved that inverse homage to The Elephant Man.

I always laugh at that scene.

Michelle Pfeiffer still looks good.

As good as Anne Hathaway was as Selina Kyle / Catwoman, Michelle Pfeiffer still owns the role.

No s hit Kane and Young Superman, Michelle Pfeifer i always had a crush on her since i was 4 years old when i saw Ladyhawke in theaters and she is one of those chicks that made me a man when i was a kid. I remembered drooling at her when i saw this in theaters and i fantasized about Michelle during my puberty/teenhood as she was my boyhood crush.

Hathaway is hot too and it's Michelle, Ann, Newmar, Meriwether and Barbeau are the best ones ever.

Anyone else have this souvenir magazine when they were young?

I loved it.

I did! i still have it in a plastic and other issues of Starlog, Fangoria and Comicscene.

I saw this movie in theaters when i was 11 about 5 times and i had some of the stuff like Mcdonalds cups, t-shirts, poster, CD soundtrack (i still own it), SNES game, beach towel, toys and all that.

I also liked how much Batman TAS did borrowed from elements from the Burton movies and how much Selina looked like Michelle in the first 3 seasons including how in the 4th and 5th seasons on WB that her costume looked like Michelle's costume from Batman Returns. Even Penguin looked like Devito's version even to the flippers to long hair plus there was the same rubber duck thing in the Birds of a Feather episode.

 

[Comics N' Toons]

I love this film. Did so much for me!

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I DID have that Souvenier magazine I'm sorry to say I no longer do

 

[Cain]

Man I had that magazine too!!! (nostalgiagasm) I got in so much trouble in the 3rd grade for always perusing through it during class and distracting my fellow male classmates with all the catwoman pics t:

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

 

[Kane52630]

Probably the best cosplay i've seen for Pfeiffer's Catwoman.

http://rei-doll.deviantart.com/art/Cat-is-Here-392913480

 

[milost]

i wish Penguin would have been as SAM HAMM scripted him... mobster, gangster, both human and monster. Not a sewer dwelling freak!

And don't forget looking for a lost, buried treasure under the Batcave Indiana Jones style!

 

[Kane52630]

http://kane52630.tumblr.com/post/60332077023/magic-eye-makeup-batman-returns-gif-page-x

 

[Brain Damage]

Even as a little kid the disappearing eye shadow bugged me

 

[AnneFan]

The BR ending is so powerful, especially with Keaton taking his mask off. It made the scene an even bigger deal to me. It reminds me of Rorschach in Watchmen.

 

[Mister Meddle]

 

[Senator Pleasury]

The BR ending is so powerful, especially with Keaton taking his mask off. It made the scene an even bigger deal to me. It reminds me of Rorschach in Watchmen.

And it gets right what Nolan got wrong: Batman cannot escape with the girl and live in Italy forever after. It's just his destiny.

 

[regwec]

Oh, Hruckey Padth.

 

[Malcolm Reynold]

Something's not right here. t:

 

[antsman41]

He can bend his neck there... So why didn't they use that thinner cowl material all of the time?

 

[Mister Meddle]

He was only able to slightly bend his neck/turn his head in the Returns cowl.

 

[StarLord]

Something's not right here. t:

Lol.

He quickly rubbed his eyes here.

 

[Irony-Man]

Some random thoughts having just watched BR again in its entirety for the first time in a couple of years:

The Blu-ray of this movie is spectacular. It looks as good as if it was made in high def.

It's not really a sequel; it's just a Batman story, like the Bond films weren't sequels, just Bond stories;

It has the best reveal of any superhero's identity ever. It grew out of the story and thematically fit the movie overall as well as being possibly the best acted scene by Pfeiffer and Keaton

This is my favourite Batsuit from any of the movies, with just a little suspension of belief you can see it as a fluid piece of armour

Still my favourite batmobile

Elfman's 2 Batman scores are movie music at its best

Watching this and Batman '89, after watching Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, makes you appreciate what both directors did. Burton conceived as Batman only working if the world he inhabited was as fantastic (as in based in fantasy) as he was, and that the best way to get to the humanity of the characters was to give them the outward trappings of freaks (he was obviously influenced by Browning's Freaks, which had a similar theme). The timelessness of the design, the setting in a alternate world, with influences from the 30's, 40's and present day, mean that this movie ages extremely well. It actually is more fully realized than Batman '89, which was more closely trying to create a superhero film that followed a film noir template.

It will be interesting to see if Nolan's take on Batman as a gritty crime thriller - almost a superhero version of a 70's movie like the French Connection, will age as well. I have a feeling it will.

Finally, Batman Returns meets my criteria for a great film, in that after watching it once, I felt like watching it again, immediately (instead I think I'll watch Batman'89)