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Discussion in 'Batman World' started by Thread Manager, Jan 15, 2015.
I love that, shocked she's still alive and in so much pain she's half-regretting she is.
Should Catwoman have been more grateful or acknowledging of that Batman saved Selina's life? Admit that Batman is a good guy in the city? I love the film and characters but that not being the case is an example of how Batman isn't focused on much in the film.
Although I guess her telling another woman to not rely on Batman does convey she also resented Selina for being too weak.
I don't see why. Catwoman is in the grey area, and I don't think her acknowledging Batman's heroism would have added anything to the movie.
I also disagree with the notion that Batman isn't the star of the movie. He is. And he's dealing with two different mirror pieces of what HE could be.
Absolutely. I hear it said a lot that he isn't the star but the movie has never struck me that way. It's my second favourite Batman movie, topped (only just) by The Dark Knight. I love it.
I always found Bruce Wayne/Batman's arc to be beautifully fleshed out and loved the melancholy of his final scenes, as he hopes to find Selina in the alley.
The beautiful tragedy of Bruce Wayne.
I love Danny DeVito's Penguin. His image is perfect as the monster that wants to be a gentleman.
I love that flipsided duality, that Penguin is a monster who wants to be seen as a gentleman, whilst Bruce Wayne is a gentleman who does his best to be seen (by some) as a monster.
And Catwoman is caught between both of those sides, confused about which side she's on and whether or not she really wants to be a monster or a woman, and ultimately decides to "die" and find out for herself by living a new life... alone and away from either one of them.
For all fellow Batman Returns fans, this article is a MUST READ:
Back to Gotham: Batman Returns - The American Society of Cinematographers
Absolutely fascinating. Thanks for posting!
God, that suit is still gorgeous... He always looked like a Neal Adams Batman in that thing.
It’s still the best looking, most gorgeous Bat film.
The best Batsuit for sure. Simple, elegant, while still clearly armor yet so Batman. Puts most of the other Batsuits to shame.
Returns and Begins are my favourite live-action Batsuits, easily.
Yeah the Returns suit is such an improvement over the 89 suit.
Eh I prefer the 89 suit in all honesty. Though I will admit that Returns boasts the greatest of any cowl ever put to film.
When the first publicity pics for Returns hit I really didn't like the new suit. I thought the sculpted muscles of the first one looked really cool, and a live-action armoured suit wasn't something we'd seen before. But that changed as soon as I'd seen the movie. Been the same ever since. I guess that's why I liked the Begins suit so much. It reminded me of the Returns suit that I loved, yet had enough different going on to be its own thing.
Yeah those two are my favorite as well.
This is my top 5 fave live action batsuits:
4. BF (Sonar suit).
5. BvS (regular suit).
5. BvS (Armor suit).
3) TDK / TDKR
Do you think we’ll get a dope Mafex BReturns figure next?