The Official Cameron Monaghan As Jerome Valeska/(Possibly) The Joker

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  1. Ozbridge

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    Maybe WB forced him to say that. “What we've always gone with is that Joker is somewhere out there, anonymous and unformed, in Gotham, and he's watching the actions of Jeremiah and Jerome and possibly even another one, on his way somewhere down the line, and he's adopting them as inspirations as the person he'll one day become." Word by word. Maybe he learned it by heart to say in interviews.
     
  2. SkullDevil

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    I can't say for sure WB is entirely to blame here. Both Danny Cannon and John Stephens have been regurgitating this ideology crap for years.

    This interview couldn't have come at a worse time. Astonishing poorly planned.
     
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    They struck gold at finding Cameron, and they'd just throw it all away, or convolute it further if he played another character.
     
  4. SkullDevil

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    Also apparently Cameron wasn't satisfied with the interview. He posted this tweet (and deleted it shortly afterwards) a while after the IGN article was posted. Now, I can't say with 100% certainty that it was in response to John Stephens' interview, but the timing is very questionable.

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    If true, I seriously feel sorry for him. Seeing the BUILD interview, makes me believe there's a big disconnect between the writers & producers with Cameron and the fans of the show. What a giant clusterf***.
     
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    ^^If that's the case, then I understand Cameron's frustration. Its disappointing.
     
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    hellblazer103 Nasty Piece of Work

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    Cameron literally said on that interview that he walked out of the theater after viewing The Dark Knight and told his mom how he wished he could have a role like that one day, RIGHT after praising Hamill and the animated series even, and they do this **** to him...
     
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    I wonder if he'd come back for S5 if it gets renewed, even after being so mislead!

    Not too optimistic at the moment, though. :csad::csad:
     
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    https://twitter.com/cameronmonaghan/status/995422386437570560
     
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    Yeah, in the past few hours today, Monaghan's been sharing a lot of behind the scenes images and such on Twitter. Fun to go through and see.
     
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    SkullDevil The White Portuguese

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    Yeah, I went through them. They're pretty sweet.

    Unless something happens to Jeremiah in this next episode (aka death), I'm still choosing to see Jeremiah's as Gotham's Joker in everything but name, despite John Stephens' comments. WB once again interfering with stuff they shouldn't.
     
  12. Ozbridge

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    From Cameron’s twitter:

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    With John Stephens went out of the way to say Jeremiah isn’t the Joker I hope his boss at WB is convinced.
     
  13. SkullDevil

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    Very interesting that he mentioned the 'clone'.
     
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    I’ve always wondered if the Jerome lookalike was just an Easter egg or the producers had other plans that were scrapped.
     
  15. SkullDevil

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    At least I like the multiple origin explanation more than the way Stephens worded it.
     
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    he was fantastic again :D
     
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    Shame we saw most of his scenes in the promos/trailers. :/
     
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    This is still frustrating:
    Jeremiah Will Return and Evolve Again on Gotham

    So after all that is said and done Jeremiah still is being beat around the bush as a Joker. Hopefully it changes by the time the finale.
     
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    'Gotham' Showrunner Says Cameron Monaghan's Third Character Has Even More "Joker Elements"

    Ugh, John Stephens frustrates me!
     
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    Again, either the WB suits are twisting his arm or he's completely and stupidly ignorant.
     
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    New interview with Cameron where he talks about Gotham a bit! Not much we haven’t heard, but still pretty cool!


    Cameron Monaghan on the future of his character on 'Gotham' and what we thought was his last scene on 'Shameless'

    Can’t wait to see the final version!
     
  23. hellblazer103

    hellblazer103 Nasty Piece of Work

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    Oh come tf on man. Just keep Jeremiah and don't call him Joker, that's all they have to ****ing do. It's not complicated. We get it, he can't be called Joker, whatever.... Then don't. But he IS the Joker of this show to a lot of people and that's all that should matter ffs. I guess they're doing the clone bull**** after all.
     
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    'Gotham' EP Ensures Batman Moment Won't Be Like 'Smallville's Superman

    Yup, I think he will be the Joker, but won’t be referred to by name as others have mentioned!
     
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