The Avengers The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread. - Part 2

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Adam West should overdub Christian Bale's Batman voice. I'm sure when he says "swear to me!!" it won't sound quite as silly.
 
I posted this on another board due to Hulk's insane level of power being shown in comics now -

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That's an interesting theory, but I must confess, that the only justification I need to believe that Hulk can reach insane levels of power, is from the phrase that Marvel has been saying about him for 50 years, the madder he gets the stronger he gets and there is no limit to his anger.

When I first started reading Hulk comics around 1978-79, that was the phrase that stuck with me the most, as I'm sure it did most die-hard Hulk fans. I remember when I first read issue #242 where Hulk is fighting Tyrannus who had possession of the power of the Eternal Flame. In that issue the Hulk does something that the narration described as simply being impossible by all accounts, an angered Hulk tried to get his hands on Tyrannus who was within the field of the Flame, and was able to grab hold of something intangible, as if it were tangible. The field of energy blew up and I think it sent Hulk flying back. There was a Celestial present and the event even took hold of his curiosity if only for a second. That issue was one of the first Hulk comics I've read over and over until the spine was coming apart. Hulk has always been that character that can do the impossible. In many of the old Savage Hulk stories, the narration tells us Hulk shouldn't be able to do thus and thus, but as far as Hulk concerned it wouldn't matter.

All that to say Hulk has more going on with his physiology than most care to try to understand. It was either Roy Thomas or Roger Stern who said that gamma mutates are an expression of their repressed memories(thoughts). Bill Mantlo stated that Hulk is Banner's survival instinct, Paul Jenkins stated Hulk is Banner's self defense mechanism externalized (think about that), and Pak stated that Hulk has calculated attacks even in his Savage Hulk form due to Bruce Banner having an a ability similar to Amedeus Cho, being able to calculate on his surroundings. That being said, it's my belief that when the very corporeal Banner transforms to Hulk, the calculating creative mind of Bruce Banner becomes the incorporeal instinct, while the instinctive incorporeal survival apparatus becomes the very corporeal self.

What am I getting at? Hulk has many abilities that by all intents and purposes are illogical (because they are and so is every other character with super powers), but imagine that when Banner unleashes the gamma irradiated Hulk, he's releasing an intangible part of himself only its tangible and amped up to the most extreme levels of function...The part of the human 'soul' that regenerates cuts and bruises without you controlling or telling it to do so, the part of the human 'soul' that has no doubt no fear because the mind that stops it from progressing has become the quiet subconscious calculating instinct. The part of the human 'soul' that only believes in mind over matter and knows and can be convinced of nothing else. The part of the 'soul' that's eternal and refuses or can't die, because it doesn't knows no limits.

I was actually going to start a post, as I have a lot of free time now up til October, and invite my board buddies Ygor and Don P. and anyone else wanting to entertain the mechanics of the Hulk Banner relationship. You're invited when I do.
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As far as the gamma energy and Hulk becoming an elemental force, there are many schools of thought, real world school of thought that conflicts with the Western Worlds theories and laws of science. There are esoteric and occult beliefs of the power of man and his true nature and goal in life. I'm not going to get too far into it on this board, as it puzzles me, that one act done by a particular character is silly, far-fetched or ridiculous, when if done by another character, its fine. There is an occult (secret) saying that states "Gods are immortal Men and Men are mortal Gods." Hulk's metaphor is liken to Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods and gave it to men. Which means he got it unjustly. Banner messing with science, and possibly himself, released a destructive power, that maybe he was unworthy of, and because of it the same power courses through his being and making his life a living hell. He's hunted and hounded and can never find peace. This power called Hulk. We have been told many times in various comics, Banner's other self Hulk, is...A Force of Nature...Cool Huh...only that power can not be controlled because...it's a Force of Nature...Hulk being a creature of Gamma and Cosmic energy, taps into these fields of unlimited power, which drives the beast to higher destructive planes of existence with said connection to the universe. There are schools of thought that suggest we all have higher 'bodies' that connect us to the entire universe when we reach the proper mindset, giving man great abilities, untold to the unlearned.

But anyway I'll leave you with this, I posted it on this board once...I thought it was interesting...Tell me what you think. Suppose Banner did what this guy is talking about...


Paradox And Power of Gamma Rays

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrTr4QQ1dw8&feature=relmfu

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To Loki: "And you, big fella, managed to piss off every one of them." Loki: "I have an army." Stark: "We have a Hulk!"

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Oh god, that line is going to be orgasmic.
 
So by the footage's description, the Hulk is being treated as the secret weapon for the Avengers to help combat against Loki's army?

While I'ms ure that they'll have the Hulk get into a fight with the Avengers at some point, I still hope that he's written as more of a hero and helps out with tight situations as well.
 
Odinson said:
To Loki: "And you, big fella, managed to piss off every one of them." Loki: "I have an army." Stark: "We have a Hulk!"

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I LOVE it!!!

That crazy Hulk just loves fighting armies. :woot:
 
he seems to be the main appeal that Marvel is going at. A lot of people forget about TIH, and the marketing seems to be aimed and making audiences remember just how big a deal the Hulk is
 
BobJM said:
he seems to be the main appeal that Marvel is going at. A lot of people forget about THI, and the marketing seems to be aimed and making audiences remember just how big a deal the Hulk is
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Dude, our sigs!:wow::woot:
 
Maybe this film will get the general audience interested in another Hulk film.
 
I think this film is gonna put Hulk in a position the audience has never seen him before--full fledged superhero. TIH hinted at it at the end with his fight against Abomination, but the GA has yet to see a "smart" Hulk completely in control.

I think Avengers will usher in a new film with Ruffalo replacing Norton alongside returning TIH castmates. (I can't handle a 3rd cast).
 
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