The Avengers The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread. - Part 3

[WildcatNC]

I totally disagree. The Hulk is not Giant-Man, King Kong or Mighty Joe Young. I'm sure if H. Pym show up he'll be 50 ft tall.

Yep, your right. 9 ft = 30+ ft. Its all the same.


I'm sure you killed it in math.

 

[fixxxer1022]

im still not sold on mark as banner but the new hulk design i saw in the teaser was good.

also i hated the ang lee hulk, he looked like the jolly green giant on steroids.

 

[wobbly]

The story of Ang Lee said that the bigger the damage is the more the nanomeds will act. Nanomeds are explained to be triggered by damage. In Banner's case, emotional damage (which can be manifested physically, as Betty says). So the story does explain why. You don't have to like it though.

What? I have been talking about the pictures, not Ang Lee's film, which we know came up with it's own convoluted reasons for the size jumps.

Was there an explanation in the comic book those pictures came from as to why he was so big in that story?

If there wasn't then the artist has drawn the Hulk poorly.

The drawings of Deodato are anything but poor. You don't happen to like it and that's fine though.

Sigh...Deodato is a very good artist but for those panels his representation of the Hulk is off model to the tune of about 12 feet in height, so yeah, that's pretty damn poor if there is no in story reason for that change.

 

[Norm3]

On this cover Hulk looks about 8 ft & Hawkeye with knees bent is maybe 6ft. This size for Hulk is about not too bad. Surprising since in the ultimates line the Hulk looks 10ft or more in those books. This for some reason works much better than that Tim Roth scene.

 

[Herolee10]

Anyone else find it interesting that in all of the footage used from TIH when promoting the “Avengers”, that Marvel Studios didn’t use a real clear (money) shot of the Hulk to focus on as well?

 

[marcvader]

With the level of detail shown in that quick glimpse I would expect them to still be working on it this early in post.

 

[Norm3]

They showed more Hulk or Banner footage at the New York comic con. Here's a 46min video but with the Hulk or just Banner footage cut out.

http://www.**************.com/fansites/scifimediazone/news/?a=48790

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51703

 

[Herolee10]

They showed more Hulk or Banner footage at the New York comic con. Here's a 46min video but with the Hulk or just Banner footage cut out.

http://www.**************.com/fansites/scifimediazone/news/?a=48790

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51703

Boy are you late to the party.lol

 

[Norm3]

Boy are you late to the party.lol

I am? This was for others duh! The full video was posted today.

 

[Herolee10]

I am? This was for others duh! The full video was posted today.

My bad; I thought it came off as if it was new news for you when you used the words "New Hulk and Bruce Footage at NYCC" since everything that was shown regarding new footage of Hulk/Bruce was already known.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Anyone else find it interesting that in all of the footage used from TIH when promoting the “Avengers”, that Marvel Studios didn’t use a real clear (money) shot of the Hulk to focus on as well?

You knew that would be the case though.

 

[Hoblin]

Some say it's good:

http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hulk-Vol-Split-Decisions/dp/0785112383

http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hu...iewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

But that's far from the point: Hulk ahs been depicted as that big. Not even saying it's a great idea or anything. But it did happen.

Heh. Nothing in comics ever happened you see. And rertcons are a usual thing. Superman's origin has been told many times. That's not evidence of the original one being bad.

Yeah, retcons. But the point remains: Hulk has been depicted as that big. That's a fact. You liking it or not doesn't change it.

Anyways, many aspects of Bruce Jones' run survived to the movie called The Incredible Hulk.

As long as we're talking facts, the fact is that Bruce Jones's run is widely regarded by Hulk fans as one of the worst ever and has been retconned away. This is different than the normal, minor retcon that happens years later, it's even different than a major retcon that happened years later. The WHOLE RUN was retconned away in the VERY NEXT ARC due to huge fan backlash. He didn't even get to properly finish his run, they rushed him off the book and retconned like crazy.

Actually, now that I think about it, at the end of the arc it was revealed that most of the arc was an illusion made by the Leader, so SO JONES EVEN WROTE IN THE ARC ITSELF THAT IT DIDN'T REALLY HAPPEN. Then Peter david followed up that arc and it was revealed that even THAT was an illusion created by Nightmare. So that giant-sized Hulk has been shown to not be real in it's own arc AND in the following arc.

Maybe there are real examples of Hulk being drawn that large. But it's kinda suspect that the only example you provided is not in-continuity.

 

[DyeLorean]

They CAN render a single image for a poster or anything. Footage is another subject, that really needs time, is much harder than just an image. They are obviously keeping a little mystery around him. Don't know why exactly, but that seems to keep everyone excited about it.

 

[BigThor]

I totally disagree. The Hulk is not Giant-Man, King Kong or Mighty Joe Young. I'm sure if H. Pym show up he'll be 50 ft tall.

9ft tall is nowhere near the height of those characters, now you're just exaggerating.

 

[Pagan]

I'm just going to go with the idea of "the madder Hulk gets the bigger he gets" that way I'm not worried about it

 

[Doc Samson]

All of these comic examples are the exact reason why I hate when people resort to them for their arguments. Especially in terms of art, the depiction of the Hulk & his size is really at the discretion of whoever is working on it at that time. There's never been a hard, fast rule when artists draw him, so it's never been a valid source for how the Hulk "should look" height-wise.

 

[Gamma_Powered_God]

I just hope Hulk says more than "Hulk Smash" in the movie. There's so much more to him than that. He's not an animal, he's Bruce's repressed ego, let out to do whatever he wants. I love in the Ultimates, when Betty asks him why he is turning himself into the Hulk, he replies" The honest to god truth of the matter is..... that I just missed being big".

 

[Lantern Venom]

All of these comic examples are the exact reason why I hate when people resort to them for their arguments. Especially in terms of art, the depiction of the Hulk & his size is really at the discretion of whoever is working on it at that time. There's never been a hard, fast rule when artists draw him, so it's never been a valid source for how the Hulk "should look" height-wise.

That's a very good point. On the DVD commentary for TIH, the producers made the same point. They said not only did Hulk vary from incarnation to incarnation, year to year, but sometimes even panel to panel.

 

[elgaz]

Interesting point. I wonder if Marvel would ever lay down some ground rules for it's artists, for the sake of consistency. E.g. Hulk must always be drawn to be circa 8ft tall, 9ft tall, must always be this shade of green, whatever.

 

[The Morningstar]

Why 8 or 9 foot? Just round it up to 10.

 

[kedrell]

To me Marvel's stated dimensions for Hulk have always been consistent for a reason. Hulk, despite being a larger than life monster...is a person and a character who regularly interacts with other normal sized characters and thus needs to be just big enough to be of impressive size while not so big it hinders interaction. Most ceilings are about 8FT tall(sure there are many exceptions but that is the average in most buildings). Hulk being able to fit in such environs w/o either his head going through the ceiling or necessitating that he hunch over to fit seems like common sense to me.

 

[The Morningstar]

When was the last time Hulk was just chilling inside a building? And i mean come on, talking about ceilings and all that? You're looking too far into it. Hulk is exactly what it says on the tin; A Hulk. He should be huge. And the fact is, Marvels stats are just a rough guide. He's been portrayed in many different shapes and sizes over the years. It's really, really not a good idea to apply real world logic to comics. That is a road to madness.

Now i'm not saying he should be 20 ft tall. But he should be dwarfing the other guys, including Cap and Thor.

 

[kedrell]

I think when you cross a certain size limit he ceases to be a superhuman person(which is what he's supposed to be just as much as Thor or Superman) and becomes something more in line with King Kong or Godzilla(just a large powerful monster). Hulk is a superhero after all and comes from that tradition. And standing a head taller than guys like Thor & Cap & Tony(in armor) easily makes it like Hulk dwarves them all. Especially when he's at least twice as wide as any of them.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

7ft tall is still relatively gigantic, especially when you factor in his literaly superhuman girth. And to me that's enough. The further you stray from this ideal then the less of a relatable person Hulk seems. And he IS a person not just a mere monster.

I just think 7' makes him look small whereas 9 gives him a somehwat frightening size. In any case, I have not seen him at 7' since the comics of the 70s,80s. He is always been a bit above 8'.

Whatever the case, as long as he is kept strong and is given a personality I will be happy.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

hemsworth is 6'3 ft. so if the hulk would only be 7ft. he would only be a head bigger..thats a bit too small...
heading for around 9 feet is the upper limit....everything too close to 10 ft. and above seems too much.
i am all for 2 to 3 heads higher than thor for this incarnation in the avengers film.
and it seems we will get exactly this so i already like this hulk more than any one t'ill now, due to the short glimpse, art work and what we already heard.