The Avengers The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread. - Part 6

[Drummerdude7]

Traditionally, comic book artists never tried to make the Hulk look like Banner.



We have the opposite in Avengers; Ruffalo's hair appears longer than the Hulk's. This makes even less sense to me. Everything on Banner expands when he becomes the Hulk--muscles, bones, etc. It would make sense that his hair looks a tad more wild and flailing around than mild-mannered, neatly coiffed Banner's. (Just as it was portrayed in the comics.)



If we're okay with Banner's skin changing color, then why shouldn't his hair change color? I'm just not a fan of a Hulk with gray hairs. Rufflao has brown eyes, but the Hulk has green eyes (as it should be).

This is all very minute in the grand scheme of things. The movie looks amazing and the Hulk looks incredible!

I understand your point of view. To me, the hair length looks about the same. But you do have a point re: the hair change vs. the skin change.

 

[Kirmit]

Just been studying the high detailed Hulk pic for a little bit and something that struck me as really cool was you can actually see the anger in his eyes. I wasn't a fan of TIH's glowing eyes to show his anger, '12 eyes just scream anger without really doing anything, I can't explain it but it's really cool.

 

[Gamma Burst]

I can't praise this Hulk enough. It will be an amazing experience watching him in 23 days.

 

[afan]

I can't praise this Hulk enough. It will be an amazing experience watching him in 23 days.

Ditto!

I love everything I've seen.... and read..... Ruffalo describing his movement as "lumbering"...... The 8 1/2 foot height.......he talks!.... by the way I would gladly trade clips of Hulk in action......for one clip of Hulk in voice!

 

[Drummerdude7]

I cannot wait to hear Hulk speak. That is the one thing I think I'm looking forward to the most, considering it's been done the least.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I cannot wait to hear Hulk speak. That is the one thing I think I'm looking forward to the most, considering it's been done the least.

If Lou Ferrigno is still doing the voice, you could watch the 90s cartoon series, as he also voiced the hulk in that show, and he speaks all the time, so it will give you a good idea of what he'll sound like.

 

[terry78]

Hulk resembling Banner is kind of the movieverse's way of grounding it in reality in a sense. He's still the same man, only big and green. In real life, that is technically how it would look.

 

[Drummerdude7]

Exactly...to me it doesn't make sense for Hulk not to resemble Banner in some way

*coughnomustacheonredhulkcough*

 

[Anti Goku]

^^^ hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

 

[Anti Goku]

I think it would be cool and different I banner was born with the hulk in him. Baby hulk!!!
They sort of showed this in 03 hulk when he was a kid and his arm changed color a bit buy maybe I'm dead wrong I dnt remember too well

 

[Chris Wallace]

If Lou Ferrigno is still doing the voice, you could watch the 90s cartoon series, as he also voiced the hulk in that show, and he speaks all the time, so it will give you a good idea of what he'll sound like.

It's my understanding that he is, which he also provided in the Norton movie.

 

[TX85]

I'm also pretty excited to hear Hulk FINALLY talk than just a sentence,Many don't like how it's been done in some comics or animated films But I personally love all versions of Hulk talking!

As for the explanation of him talking now than in TIH..I'm guessing Banner will say he's able to control some parts of Hulk while in transformation including speech!?

 

[Herolee10]

Just curious to get some folks’ opinion on this but:

Seeing as how the version of Bruce Banner/Hulk is turning out to be somewhat very different from what we saw of Norton’s version in The Incredible Hulk, along with the fact that it’s like the one film that probably didn’t perform and receive praise as the other MCU films have done, do you guys think that it would have been better to recton the events of The Incredible Hulk entirely from the MCU and say that Mark’s version is a new one from the get go so that his version wouldn’t be as tied down to the continuity established of the character from the previous film?

Honestly, my belief is that Marvel should have waited on making their solo Hulk film instead of having released it alongside Iron Man 1, and that they should have released a Hulk film AFTER Iron Man 2, back when they had screenplays and solid story ideas/ground plan as to what the other solo films featuring Thor and Captain America would be like in order to better connect Hulk’s film with every one else’s.

Thoughts?

 

[Chris Wallace]

I thought this Hulk was to all intents & purposes the Hulk of Incredible, as Banner had gained a measure of control over him by the end of the movie.

 

[Gamma_Powered_God]

Just curious to get some folks’ opinion on this but:

Seeing as how the version of Bruce Banner/Hulk is turning out to be somewhat very different from what we saw of Norton’s version in The Incredible Hulk, along with the fact that it’s like the one film that probably didn’t perform and receive praise as the other MCU films have done, do you guys think that it would have been better to recton the events of The Incredible Hulk entirely from the MCU and say that Mark’s version is a new one from the get go so that his version wouldn’t be as tied down to the continuity established of the character from the previous film?

Honestly, my belief is that Marvel should have waited on making their solo Hulk film instead of having released it alongside Iron Man 1, and that they should have released a Hulk film AFTER Iron Man 2, back when they had screenplays and solid story ideas/ground plan as to what the other solo films featuring Thor and Captain America would be like in order to better connect Hulk’s film with every one else’s.

Thoughts?

This version of Banner/Hulk does seem to be departure. In Ang's Hulk Banner wanted to seperate the Hulk from himself and destroy it. In Norton's Hulk, Banner wanted to eradicate the Hulk cells and go back to his life with Betty. Now, we seem to have a much lighter hearted Banner, who has come to accept that the Hulk is a part of him, as opposed to constantly trying to cure himself. It also looks like Banner will have a much higher degree of control as the Hulk- hence being a functioning member of the team.

 

[Herolee10]

This version of Banner/Hulk does seem to be departure. In Ang's Hulk Banner wanted to seperate the Huk from himself and destroy it. In Norton's Hulk, Banner wanted to eradicate the Hulk cells and go back to his life with Betty. Now, we seem to have a much lighter hearted Banner, who has come to accept that the Hulk is a part of him, as opposed to constantly trying to cure himself. It also looks like Banner will have a much higher degree of control as the Hulk- hence being a functioning member of the team.

Indeed; I seem to recalling reading statements from Whedon from recent interviews on how he wanted to start fresh with the Hulk's character right from the get go and that he wasn't a fan of the previous interpretations.

And to further add to the difference between Mark's version and past portrayals, the guidebook that covers like one half of the film supposedly (or at least, up until Loki's capture) states on how Bruce is in India trying to figure out on how he can use the Hulk for the world in a good way since he feels that there's good potential for the Hulk, and that belief alone separates Mark's version from his predecessors by a mile.

 

[MarvelKnight]

From interviews I read in regards to the hulk they tried to think of a place that would never bring about a transformation; their thinking was helping people who are riddled with poor conditions and sickness could never illicit a transformation from banner and thats where they came up with india

I'm looking at it as forgetting 03 hulk ever happened since it has nothing to do with the Current MCU.

Since it "appears" banner assumed some control at the end of TIH, it doesn't make it seem completely implausible that Ruffalo's character interpretation is while he is hoping he never transforms and hurts people again, he has finally accepted his situation at the very least. at least that's the way i see it as far as bridging from Norton's banner to ruffalo's

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

There was no need to retcon TIH, the actual Hulk has went through many physical and mental changes in the books, so you can easily just tell yourself that between the events of TIH and the Avengers, the mutation has developed somewhat, leading to a different physical appearance, a more developed mind, and more physical strength(if you believe that, I'm not getting into that whole Hulk jumping debate again, haha).

It's my understanding that he is, which he also provided in the Norton movie.

Aye, I thought so too, but wasn't sure if anything had developed on that front, as I have a vague recollection of a couple of folk on here talking about the possibility of Ruffalo doing the voice. I mean, I guess if that was something Whedon wanted to do, Marvel might capitulate to that change.

 

[MarvelKnight]

I just want to hear "Hulk Smash" again.

 

[Herolee10]

From interviews I read in regards to the hulk they tried to think of a place that would never bring about a transformation; their thinking was helping people who are riddled with poor conditions and sickness could never illicit a transformation from banner and thats where they came up with india

I'm looking at it as forgetting 03 hulk ever happened since it has nothing to do with the Current MCU.

Since it "appears" banner assumed some control at the end of TIH, it doesn't make it seem completely implausible that Ruffalo's character interpretation is while he is hoping he never transforms and hurts people again, he has finally accepted his situation at the very least. at least that's the way i see it as far as bridging from Norton's banner to ruffalo's

That is possible; from what I’ve read so far, Mark has stated that Banner has gained control to the point where he can literally have bursts of anger at times and still not transform into the Hulk.

If anything, I’d say that the real biggest different between the two versions is that Mark’s Bruce is seemingly more active in helping people whereas Norton’s Banner was more reactive.

Also, some have suggested that it was because of that experiment that Banner went through with Samuel Sterns in NYC, where he was trying to suppress the Hulk that actually gave liege to Banner gaining some control over the Hulk while developing the Hulk’s mind into a more self conscious persona.

 

[metaphysician]

I would be disinclined to retcon TIH, if only because it has tie in elements to the MCU. Its nice to know that the Rogers blood samples didn't just fall into a hole somewhere; the military continued working on super soldier research. They just never quite figured out/accepted what Irskine realized, that you need a good man *first* to make a stable super soldier.

 

[Herolee10]

If we don’t ever end up getting a Hulk Sequel, then I’m inclined towards hoping that we see the Hulk return in every sequel to the Avengers since that’ll be our only means of seeing the character on screen, and it’d be nice to see the Hulk portrayed by the same actor twice that isn’t Bill Bixby or Lou.lol

Also, I’d like to see Banner’s character in the MCU gain some closure in his “one make walking around the world alone” arc at some point. Either kill him off entirely at the end of the MCU franchise or let the man find some peace since I’d prefer any one of those two over just leaving his character’s end in saying that he just walked alone around the world for the rest of his life.lol

 

[Gamma_Powered_God]

If we don’t ever end up getting a Hulk Sequel, then I’m inclined towards hoping that we see the Hulk return in every sequel to the Avengers since that’ll be our only means of seeing the character on screen, and it’d be nice to see the Hulk portrayed by the same actor twice that isn’t Bill Bixby or Lou.lol

Also, I’d like to see Banner’s character in the MCU gain some closure in his “one make walking around the world alone” arc at some point. Either kill him off entirely at the end of the MCU franchise or let the man find some peace since I’d prefer any one of those two over just leaving his character’s end in saying that he just walked alone around the world for the rest of his life.lol

I think we are seeing the end of "Tragic" Hulk in the movie universe. Much like the animated series, I think we will see Hulk become part of the family that is the Avengers, and I'm glad.

 

[Gamma Burst]

I think we are seeing the end of "Tragic" Hulk in the movie universe. Much like the animated series, I think we will see Hulk become part of the family that is the Avengers, and I'm glad.

I definitely won't be complaining about it too.

 

[BigThor]

I think we are seeing the end of "Tragic" Hulk in the movie universe. Much like the animated series, I think we will see Hulk become part of the family that is the Avengers, and I'm glad.

I'm glad, I was getting tired of them playing Hulk from the same angle over and over again.