The Avengers The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread. - Part 8

[marcvader]

Does Banner show his brilliance in Avengers?

 

[Oruku Saki]

There's a reason the comics have been called "Incredible Hulk" for 50 years, not "Incredible Banner". Banner fits into the mix as a play off of Hulk, but Hulk is and always will be the main attraction. He's far and away the most lucrative character for Marvel and has been for many years. (merchandising; toys etc)

 

[Oruku Saki]

Does Banner show his brilliance in Avengers?

He has to use his scientific mind (along with Stark's) to come up with a way to find the tessaract. It comes off brilliantly i the movie in my opinion, cause frankly we haven't seen him do anything scientific (minus some chemistry in TIH) in his own movies. Avengers fleshes Banner out as a brilliant scientist. When he starts talking in scientific terms with Stark you can tell he's a high level genius, which we never got in the other films IMHO.

 

[Mjölnir]

I disagree for the most part...We have gotten 2 movies now that dealt with Banner more than Hulk, and honestly I really am tired of Banner's self loathing; and I think the BO numbers prove the GA doesn't want to keep seeing that as well. Unleash the Hulk, in all his glory and give Bruce Banner (Ruffalo please) something to do as a scientist to solve a problem and I think the movie will be awesome! I dare say it worked in Avengers brilliantly!

Spoiler

In Avengers we're supposed to think it's still the same Banner that's afraid to let "the other guy" out so it still works on that dynamic until the final battle. When Hulk becomes a pure hero, Banner starts becoming far less interesting and turns more into the superhero scientist that Stark and Pym already are. I guess that's why A:EMH pretty much scrapped Banner when they went with the pure hero line with Hulk.

As I said, I think they'll do something good with it that I haven't quite gotten a grip of yet, as I think it's going in the direction where Banner isn't quite as much of an emotionally engaging character.

 

[Oruku Saki]

Well, rest assure the movies will never scrap Banner for Hulk...for a multitude of reasons, so I think as long as there are competent writers and directors working on Hulk material, Banner will get his due. I, personally didn't think Banner in Avengers was that scared of letting Hulk out. He actually joked about it a few times; "guess you guys don't get to see my party trick after all".

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Posting because I have seen some speculation that they are trying to ignore TIH -

SHH: I have to imagine getting the Hulk right was very important because there had been a couple other Hulk movies. Was the work you had done with "The Incredible Hulk" still useful or did you have to start from scratch?
Feige: It absolutely is and it's absolutely canon. If you spend 40 bucks and go to the AMC movie marathon…

SHH: I already have my ticket.
Feige: Do you really?

SHH: I do, yeah. I'm going to go.
Feige: That's awesome. There are a couple of surprises there too, that'll be fun. No, it is very much canon, and without explaining too much, Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner at one point is invited to New York City and says that, "The last time I was in New York, I kind of broke Harlem." So it certainly is a part of it, but it's been an evolution of the Hulk character, and finally finding a voice and a place to show off what the Hulk can be, and really incorporating him into an ensemble, not to mention an ensemble as envisioned by Joss Whedon certainly turned out to be the best arena for the Hulk to strut his stuff.

http://www.superherohype.com/featur...nterview-with-marvel-studios-prez-kevin-feige

 

[Brian Braddock]

Excellent. I caught the Harlem reference also but it's always nice to get someone like Fiege confirming that TIH isnt the bastard child of the MCU [as some would have us beleive].

Even as I'm typing this, I'm taken back to some of the dumber posts claiming that MR's casting was pure evidence that they'd flushed TIH down the toilet and rebooted the character (hell, one guy even tried to make the case that Marvel had to explain why Banner now looked different!!! )

 

[Smashlilman]

Excellent. I caught the Harlem reference also but it's always nice to get someone like Fiege confirming that TIH isnt the bastard child of the MCU [as some would have us beleive].

Even as I'm typing this, I'm taken back to some of the dumber posts claiming that MR's casting was pure evidence that they'd flushed TIH down the toilet and rebooted the character (hell, one guy even tried to make the case that Marvel had to explain why Banner now looked different!!! )

Banner is a Skull I tellsya!!!! SKULL!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Weadazoid]

^yes that would be awesome who knows what would happen the outcome would be an abomination

Well.... we already saw that.


But that was the serum....imperfect


Leader has an obsesion with what he can draw from the blood.


Perhaps if Mr. Blue some how finds a way to reach out to Banner... without Banner knowing exactly what he is up to.


Mr. Blue has been off the map...living off the grid, so Banner doesn't know what happened to him.


But some how.... well just reading the news I suppose Mr. Blue knows Rogers has resurfaced.

Mr. Blue tells Banner if he gives him some more of his blood, and Rogers blood he can find a viable 'cure'


Make no mistake this is what Banner still 'wants' so to speak and he knows Mr. Blue came close.



Maybe the Leader creates a Doc Sampson like Villain.... still looks human, but is jacked and is far stronger then Roth, nearly equal to the Hulk, but not just a henchman for the Leader..... perhaps a kind of character that could become a Mad Man like villain down the line.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Banner is a Skull I tellsya!!!! SKULL!!!!!!!!!!

t:

Who got plastic surgery in order to avoid General Ross (!). Seriously, that was the guys idea for explaining why Banner didnt look like Norton anymore.

 

[Gamma Burst]

t:

Who got plastic surgery in order to avoid General Ross (!). Seriously, that was the guys idea for explaining why Banner didnt look like Norton anymore.

Who's this guy?

 

[Brian Braddock]

To be honest, I cant even remember; only thing I can recall is my extreme sense of pain after headbutting my keyboard.

 

[Drummerdude7]

Great to know TIH is officially canon. There really isn't any reason it shouldn't be...these characters transcend the actors who play them. If a new Hulk films plays out though, it will be good to have some consistency, at the very least with the Hulk's overall look.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I think the best analogy used at the time was that in the comics, different artists can do the art chores on the very same story arc, drawing characters and environments differently. That made so much sense to me as there really isnt that much difference here.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I think the best analogy used at the time was that in the comics, different artists can do the art chores on the very same story arc, drawing characters and environments differently. That made so much sense to me as there really isnt that much difference here.

That's how I justify it. Works too.

 

[wobbly]

Past movie precedents in ongoing series exist as well: Roger Moore never looked like Sean Connery, didn't need an explanation for Bond's change in appearance.
Likewise Val Kilmer looks nothing like Micheal Keaton.

Anyone dense enough that they can't accept a role in an ongoing series being re-cast without some daft explanation isn't worth wasting time on.

 

[wobbly]

Another thing apart from

Spoiler

the Harlem quip was that they used footage from TIH as well: The holographic files Tony opens has some of the Campus fight scene on display.

 

[Smashlilman]

Past movie precedents in ongoing series exist as well: Roger Moore never looked like Sean Connery, didn't need an explanation for Bond's change in appearance.
Likewise Val Kilmer looks nothing like Micheal Keaton.

Anyone dense enough that they can't accept a role in an ongoing series being re-cast without some daft explanation isn't worth wasting time on.

I wasn't go that far. I loved the TV series Spartacus but it just not the same with Liam McIntyre he replace Andy Whitfieldi after he died. So times replacements don't always work out.

 

[Sarg92]

Another thing apart from

Spoiler

the Harlem quip was that they used footage from TIH as well: The holographic files Tony opens has some of the Campus fight scene on display.

I'm sure Banner saying [BLACKOUT]that he tried to kill himself[/BLACKOUT] was a reference to the deleted Arctic scene in TIH.


Also I think now it is fine that actors change between films because it will become the norm for Marvel films. Feige said that if Downey Jr ever stops playing Iron Man then rather than rebooting the franchise, they will just cast a new actor and continue the story like the Bond series.

 

[jnmx2000]

I see no one is talking about the fact that Mark Ruffalo has signed on to make six more marvel films as the hulk, which means we'll get atleast 2 more solo films, 2 avengers and possible cameos in other films? we'll see, hopefully they all come to fruitation.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

It's been posted and discussed several times.

 

[Anti Goku]

Not really just commented on not discussed

 

[Anti Goku]

I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now The Destroyer from Thor has it's disintegrator beam which is said to be able to annihilate anything and everything. Do you think it would kill hulk if he was directly hit by it?

 

[ComicForAWife]

I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now The Destroyer from Thor has it's disintegrator beam which is said to be able to annihilate anything and everything. Do you think it would kill hulk if he was directly hit by it?

This doesn't really prove anything, but

Spoiler

Coulson did shoot Loki with the gun that was made from Destroyer tech and he survived

so I doubt it would affect Hulk much.

 

[fixxxer1022]

Spoiler

hulk towards the end spontaneously punching thor was funny as hell