The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - Part 3

[Spider-ManHero12]

Speaking of Sinister Six, as I said, I would have loved to have seen it happen in Spider-Man 6. Granted, it would probably involve some of the Villains that weren't originally part of the Six, but I trust in Raimi.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Speaking of Sinister Six, as I said, I would have loved to have seen it happen in Spider-Man 6. Granted, it would probably involve some of the Villains that weren't originally part of the Six, but I trust in Raimi.

I wouldn't mind some roster changes. For example, power players like Scorpion or Rhino might be welcome additions to the roster.

 

[Venom'sDad]

The door was always left open for a possible return of Doc Ock.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Thank God the proposed Venom spinoff fell through. Venom as the Lethal Protector was already a bad idea in the comics.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Venom as the Lethal Protector was already a bad idea in the comics.

Amen

 

[Godzilla2014]

Amen

Venom's entire point of being is to be Spider-Man's dark side, which he can't as the Lethal Protector or Anti-Venom.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Oh, I agree...reason while been suggesting forever, to re-invent him, giving him a more real motivation and mature reason for existing.

 

[scatterax]

I think it could've worked if directed well.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Oh, I agree...reason while been suggesting forever, to re-invent him, giving him a more real motivation and mature reason for existing.

He's fine as he is in the comics, in my opinion. The dynamic between Spider-Man and Venom has far outgrown its lackluster initial reasons for being, just as it is with Green Goblin and his similarly poor motivations for existing.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I think it could've worked if directed well.

There is no way a Venom spin-off could work is if he is the hero of the film. That's not what he is. He's a psychopathic killer, not a lethal protector of the innocent.

 

[Venom'sDad]

He's fine as he is in the comics, in my opinion. The dynamic between Spider-Man and Venom has far outgrown its lackluster initial reasons for being, just as it is with Green Goblin and his similarly poor motivations for existing.

We will have to agree to disagree on that. ^

 

[Godzilla2014]

We will have to agree to disagree on that. ^

That said, I wouldn't mind if he had stronger motivations. For example I liked Venom in The Spectacular Spider-Man, a mix of 616 and Ultimate Venom.

 

[Venom75]

A Venom spinoff would've only worked if Venom took on Carnage and instead of Venom being the "good guy," they both were evil. But with Venom maybe being the lesser of two evils. Kinda like with Jason in Freddy vs. Jason. I've always disliked Venom as the "hero."
What I'd like is for Venom to appear in this new series and be a main villain against Spidey,live and then get his own spinoff against Carnage.

 

[scatterax]

TAS is the definitive venom for me. (much like TAS Mr Freeze)

 

[scatterax]

A Venom spinoff would've only worked if Venom took on Carnage and instead of Venom being the "good guy," they both were evil. But with Venom maybe being the lesser of two evils. Kinda like with Jason in Freddy vs. Jason. I've always disliked Venom as the "hero."
What I'd like is for Venom to appear in this new series and be a main villain against Spidey,live and then get his own spinoff against Carnage.

who was the lesser evil in that movie?

 

[Venom75]

who was the lesser evil in that movie?

Jason was.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The door was always left open for a possible return of Doc Ock.

Indeed.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Thank God the proposed Venom spinoff fell through. Venom as the Lethal Protector was already a bad idea in the comics.

Plus we saw him ash. So they would have either come up with some lame excuse to resurrect him or we would have gotten VINO.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Very true, though, a Venom spin-off could have worked if it involved Carnage.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Carnage cannot be done in a PG-13.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Found this on the Goblin thread.

 

[Chris Wallace]

He's fine as he is in the comics, in my opinion. The dynamic between Spider-Man and Venom has far outgrown its lackluster initial reasons for being, just as it is with Green Goblin and his similarly poor motivations for existing.

This part I agree with.

 

[socool]

Found this on the Goblin thread.

What is Spidey standing on...?

EDIT: Oh, it's the top of the Empire State Building.

 

[Godzilla2014]

A Venom spinoff would've only worked if Venom took on Carnage and instead of Venom being the "good guy," they both were evil. But with Venom maybe being the lesser of two evils. Kinda like with Jason in Freddy vs. Jason. I've always disliked Venom as the "hero."
What I'd like is for Venom to appear in this new series and be a main villain against Spidey,live and then get his own spinoff against Carnage.

I'm sorry, but I don't really care to see Venom vs Carnage. Carnage is a redundant character who never should have been created until Venom was dead or out of the picture indefinitely.

TAS is the definitive venom for me. (much like TAS Mr Freeze)

The Spectacular Spider-Man Venom might be it for me.

Plus we saw him ash. So they would have either come up with some lame excuse to resurrect him or we would have gotten VINO.

True.

Very true, though, a Venom spin-off could have worked if it involved Carnage.

Carnage is a redundant character designed to replace Venom as the symbiotic Spider-Man villain. Furthermore, the special effects to portray him as I think fans want to see him would be insanely expensive.

Carnage cannot be done in a PG-13.

He could. After all, while he is about mass murder, his killings do not have to show a lot of onscreen gore.

This part I agree with.

Good to see people agree with me!

 

[Godzilla2014]

Found this on the Goblin thread.

Great picture!