The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - Part 9

[S. Grundy]

"With great power comes great responsibility", Spider-Man is not the Kick-Ass movie.
Ben had no powers to stop him.

The problem isn't that he stood up to a criminal, it's the how. A gun slides in front of him and he dives for it and gets in a struggle.

Even though S-M 3 was a retcon, it showed Ben's approach to trying to stop a criminal, which felt more believable character wise.

 

[Green Goblin]

Sorry, but Peter in Ultimate Spider-Man is nothing like Peter in TASM.

They're both teenagers I guess...? Otherwise, Peter in Ultimate is much closer to the Tobey Maguire version.

Nope he's 616

 

[Green Goblin]

The problem isn't that he stood up to a criminal, it's the how. A gun slides in front of him and he dives for it and gets in a struggle.

Even though S-M 3 was a retcon, it showed Ben's approach to trying to stop a criminal, which felt more believable character wise.

Dude?! Are you saying Ben should have went "F*** this I'm not stopping you"

 

[Green Goblin]

Lol people giving TASM and SM2 lack while praising SM3?
I feel like I'm on bizarro earth.

 

[Senator Pleasury]

The problem isn't that he stood up to a criminal, it's the how. A gun slides in front of him and he dives for it and gets in a struggle.

Even though S-M 3 was a retcon, it showed Ben's approach to trying to stop a criminal, which felt more believable character wise.

That might be a valid point. Maybe a senile Ben would think that "Mr. Thug, go home" would work.

 

[Human Torch]

Lol people giving TASM and SM2 lack while praising SM3?
I feel like I'm on bizarro earth.

If it makes you feel any better,I'd say Spider-Man 1 is the best.I personally don't see another Spidey film ever beating it.

 

[sontin]

Dude?! Are you saying Ben should have went "F*** this I'm not stopping you"

Yes, Yes, Yes!
Uncle Ben is not Spider-Man. He has no "power" and so no "responsibility" to catch the thief.

Maybe you guys should think about the "With great power comes great responsibility" slogan, because it makes no sense when even without power everyone should do the Spider-Man thing.

 

[optimus2861]

That might be a valid point. Maybe a senile Ben would think that "Mr. Thug, go home" would work.

Senile What a ridiculous thing to say. An elderly Ben knows very well he can't win a physical confrontation with a much younger man holding a gun on him. It's talk him down or nothing.

 

[Senator Pleasury]

Yes, Yes, Yes!
Uncle Ben is not Spider-Man. He has no "power" and so no "responsibility" to catch the thief.

Maybe you guys should think about the "With great power comes great responsibility" slogan, because it makes no sense when even without power everyone should do the Spider-Man thing.

It seems that Ben in this movie, thought that a man could make a difference, no matter how old he could be. You know, that stupid kind of things some people think.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The problem isn't that he stood up to a criminal, it's the how. A gun slides in front of him and he dives for it and gets in a struggle.

Even though S-M 3 was a retcon, it showed Ben's approach to trying to stop a criminal, which felt more believable character wise.

Different people, different reactions?

Dude?! Are you saying Ben should have went "F*** this I'm not stopping you"

Yes, Yes, Yes!
Uncle Ben is not Spider-Man. He has no "power" and so no "responsibility" to catch the thief.

Maybe you guys should think about the "With great power comes great responsibility" slogan, because it makes no sense when even without power everyone should do the Spider-Man thing.

You mean the guy who said his brother's motto "If something is in your ability to do you must do it. It's not a choice, a responsibility"? And who felt obliged to obey the rule he preached his nephew of to set a proper example?

 

[OcStat]

Yes, Yes, Yes!
Uncle Ben is not Spider-Man. He has no "power" and so no "responsibility" to catch the thief.

Maybe you guys should think about the "With great power comes great responsibility" slogan, because it makes no sense when even without power everyone should do the Spider-Man thing.

OK yeah, you really missed the entire point of that "slogan".

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I love that moment in Spider-Man 2 when Spidey raises the cable in the warehouse for Ock to hit
After all the attacks Octavius endured from Spider-Man, my disbelief was already broken with that moment, can't keep facepalming without enjoying

 

[Chris Wallace]

You were bothered by Ock succumbing to 10,000 volts shooting directly into his spine?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

When I look at it on its own, he should've died
While watching the whole movie I know I made too many 's to go on with this, as far as I can withstand

 

[henzINNIT]

I just had a moment of grim reality. Sir Ben Kingsley was dropped in favour of Topher Grace. ***** Sony.

 

[jonathancrane]

He was supposed to be the Vulture.

 

[Green Goblin]

Anyone find it werid how Doc Ock could take fall damage from a tower and Spider-Man's punches? I am aware Spidey pulls em' back but still...

 

[henzINNIT]

He was supposed to be the Vulture.

... yes.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I just had a moment of grim reality. Sir Ben Kingsley was dropped in favour of Topher Grace. ***** Sony.

But then we may have never gotten Trevor

 

[DX]

He was supposed to be the Vulture.

Malkovich should have been Vulture.

But alas, no...And he ends up in Transformers 3.

 

[Green Goblin]

Anyone here thought Topher Grace was miscast as Venom?

 

[OcStat]

Anyone find it werid how Doc Ock could take fall damage from a tower and Spider-Man's punches? I am aware Spidey pulls em' back but still...

I'd imagine his mechanical arms helped break his fall. But yeah it did not look like Spider-Man was pulling those punches on the skyscraper and train, he was pretty angry.

The ol' "webs over the glasses and one to the face" probably just wouldn't have been as exciting on screen for the big showdown.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Anyone here thought Topher Grace was miscast as Venom?

Not really. Not for the characterization of Brock/Venom they wanted.

 

[SpideyVille]

As Venom, maybe. But personally I really loved the direction that they went with for Brock and I think Topher did a good job with that.

 

[Green Goblin]

I'd imagine his mechanical arms helped break his fall. But yeah it did not look like Spider-Man was pulling those punches on the skyscraper and train, he was pretty angry.

The ol' "webs over the glasses and one to the face" probably just wouldn't have been as exciting on screen for the big showdown.

It was a pretty big fall though