The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Spider-Fan]

This is what Hulu was invented for.

 

[SumT]

yeah, Hulu sounds fine. anyplace except Disney+

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Dark Phoenix and the rest of the foxmen atrocities can get dumped on hulu. No need to put it on Disney+ imo.

 

[Darkprime]

Does Hulu host movies tho? I thought they were just tv shows. DP is PG13 fits right in with Disney+.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Hulu host hundreds of movies they're pretty much just like Netflix

 

[Spider-Fan]

Does Hulu host movies tho? I thought they were just tv shows. DP is PG13 fits right in with Disney+.

Hulu has lots of movies.

 

[WeaponXCII]

Nothing changed. Alpha is reporting on a bloomberg piece, which has a source from MLex. They may still approve by the 30th. You guys should take these reports at face value, not as the bible of something that's definitely happening/not happening. Things like this change all the time.

The problem is that, when these reports are literally the only news we've been hearing lately about the deal... it's kind of hard not to "take them as the bible".

I hope that didn't come across as too hostile- not my intention.

 

[PsylockeBlackWidow]

I think I will only take Reuters, Variety, and other reputable press trades instead of SeekingAlpha, CTFN, etc since I am so tired of them.

 

[Iceman]

I don't think they can afford to shelve it. No matter how bad it is, releasing it guarantees about $100 million in their pocket. I don't think they're going to just throw away $100 million.

They could try to use it as a way to draw people to their streaming service, but that gets a bit tricky. If they put it out there as a reason to sign up, and then it's completely terrible, it may be a poor way to launch the service.

If anything, Disney will want to disavow themselves of it, and if they release it, even after the closing, they can still blame it on Fox. If they put it on their streaming service, they'd own it more.

... and they can't really say: "Check out Dark Pheonix in Disney +. It's really terrible, but watch it with your friends over a couple beers, and it could be a fun time. LOL." Though that would be a brilliant experiment in "honest marketing".

I do think that on streaming people’s tolerance for crap is far higher, as they haven’t wasted time and money getting to a cinema and also aren’t part of a captive audience, able to pause or stop watching entirely at any time. Films that I wouldn’t consider watching in the cinema are still a positive to have available on streaming (for someone like me at least).

 

[Darkprime]

Anyone subbed to CTFN? They have a new article up saying Disney are still working on things in Brazil.
Disney Still Fine-Tuning Behavioral Remedy Package in Brazil

 

[Marvel united]

If what is being said about Dark Phoenix is true, I can't imagine Disney would want this movie turning the property toxic and soiling audiences on the X-Men like what happened with Trank4stic, before they even get their hands on it. Feige I imagine won't be happy about the movie potentially ruining any plans he may have for certain characters/elements. Doesn't it make wayy more sense to put on streaming and save face? Longterm brand viability is the most important thing here. And Disney cancelled Gigantic which was a 100m+ movie. They can tank the loss and make back 5x more with the first MCU X-Men movie

 

[SumT]

I think Feige and co. wont do that to Fox crew, mostly as courtesy.
yeah, sounds weird, being Hollywood and all, but Feige knows damm well his X-Men will be huge, so he wont mind if dark Phoenix flops at all lol

 

[Darkprime]

its still not a good look for the brand if Dark Phoenix flops.

 

[Marvel united]

I think Feige and co. wont do that to Fox crew, mostly as courtesy.
yeah, sounds weird, being Hollywood and all, but Feige knows damm well his X-Men will be huge, so he wont mind if dark Phoenix flops at all lol

It just makes Feige's job harder, trying to revitalize a damaged property. They'll be in the same boat the F4 are in right now

 

[Dark Raven]

Hulu host hundreds of movies they're pretty much just like Netflix

Disney can create the Kinberg channel. They can toss DP along with all the bad movies on there like Fant4stic, Elektra, Catwoman, some Tommy Wiseau films etc.

 

[Darkprime]

Kinberg will end up at ether Apple, Netflix or Lucasfilm. I dont see him staying at Fox under Disney.

 

[Darkprime]

Noooo. He was supposed to be Reed,Doom or Nightmare. Damn Sony.

Matt Smith Joins 'Morbius' Spider-Man Spinoff in Major Role

 

[Marvel united]

Noooo. He was supposed to be Reed,Doom or Nightmare. Damn Sony.

Matt Smith Joins 'Morbius' Spider-Man Spinoff in Major Role

Welp, better for John Krasinski. (Hopefully without Blunt)

 

[Detective Conan]

It just makes Feige's job harder, trying to revitalize a damaged property. They'll be in the same boat the F4 are in right now

That really depends on whether or not the movie is Fan4stic level(which is really, really bad) or just Apocalypse bad(bad, but forgettable). Kinberg was rumored to have been involved in the reshoots of Fan4tisc so that’s not encouraging but I still think at the end of the day the damage to the brand this might do(assuming this hits theaters) will be quite minimal and not Fan4stic or Batman & Robin levels of severe.

 

[Darkprime]

I really wish Fox didn't give the gig to Kinberg. In fact this movie shouldn't be happening at all.As great as DOFP is it was basically Fox admitting that the previous films sucked. Which wasn't the way to deal with things IMO the best way is to move forward and just make better movies now they ****ed up the timeline and want to retell a story they already told which sucked the 1st time round dont butcher it again. sigh. The madness will soon be over but damn it this movie ruins our chances at Feige adapting Dark Phoenix properly ugh.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I think DP would have to be reeeeeaaaalllyyy bad for them to scrap it. So bad that there would be a serious risk of it damaging the brand for foreseeable future. Fant4stic or Batman & Robin level.

 

[Darkprime]

I think DP would have to be reeeeeaaaalllyyy bad for them to scrap it. So bad that there would be a serious risk of it damaging the brand for foreseeable future. Fant4stic or Batman & Robin level.

And yet Fox still released Fant4stic only to hold on the rights. They were so petty about not letting the rights go they didnt care if it damaged the brand. I dont think theyll care if DP is bad ether. They might try one more lot of reshoots but man I think theyll just pull the plug and tell kinberg to release whatever cut of the film he has lol Fox knows it will be rebooted anyway.

 

[Zyraquis]

Seems like end of month will be wishful thinking. The CADE published its 30 Jan meeting agenda short while ago the deal isn’t there.

It seems the main concern is again ESPN and Fox sports which when combined will leave only one real rival Globosat. The worst case is to sell the channel and since sports rights are far more valuable than the channels it shouldn’t affect the deal but Disney doesn’t seem to even want to consider a sale and want to negotiate a deal for some conditions arguing with the Time Warner/ATT case as precedent. It’s anyones guess how long the talks will last but I still don’t think more than a couple of months.

 

[Darkprime]

Thats why the original timeline was 12 to 18 months to account for situations like this. I'm still hopeful the deal will close before the big April investor call. But keep in mind it could be as late as June or July (I wonder how this would impact Marvels comic con announcements?). That would still fit within the original timeframe. However It would not be a good look if Disney demo their streaming service without Fox content. The 18th month window ends in January 2020. I'm sure it would close well before then. But thats the worst case scenario. I doubt Brazil will drag it that long.

 

[Docker2.0]

If what is being said about Dark Phoenix is true, I can't imagine Disney would want this movie turning the property toxic and soiling audiences on the X-Men like what happened with Trank4stic, before they even get their hands on it. Feige I imagine won't be happy about the movie potentially ruining any plans he may have for certain characters/elements. Doesn't it make wayy more sense to put on streaming and save face? Longterm brand viability is the most important thing here. And Disney cancelled Gigantic which was a 100m+ movie. They can tank the loss and make back 5x more with the first MCU X-Men movie

I'm with you on this one. I don't see this going into theaters at all, especially if Marvel does have some kind of teaser of mutants and F4 after Endgame. It's way to close to the next phase to tarnish the brand. I see this on either Disney+ or Hulu.