The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Fallen]

 

[Iceman]

Thanos. Hulk. Nuff said.

Yep. The excellent CGI characters in War for the Planet of the Apes are also worth bearing in mind.

 

[Abudefduf]

The MCU has created wonderful CGI characters in their live action films, so I trust them to make a Shulkie that's better than Will Smurf. So maybe you're the doofus, huh? YOU'RE THE DOOFUS!!!!!

Good god, it's true. I am the doofus

Seriously though, I know Thanos and Hulk look great but they're both character with very exaggerated facial features, and these are easier to pull off with CGI.

Then there's Proxima, who was decent for a one-off secondary villain, but She-Hulk is a different beast entirely. Whoever gets cast as her will have to possess some solid comedic chops, and comedic chops and mocap don't mesh really well. People would be too busy being creeped out by her to laugh at her silliness.

Nah, they should just paint the actress green and then enlarge her with computer magic like they did with Eitri.

 

[Fallen]

This is kind of random but if after seeing Will Smith's Genie you still think MCU She-Hulk should be CGI, you're a doofus.

The Genie looks atrocious. Robin Williams is rolling in his grave.

EDIT:
The trailer has more dislikes than likes .

 

[Marvel united]

Yep. The excellent CGI characters in War for the Planet of the Apes is also worth bearing in mind.

Hopefully Apocalypse gets the same treatment in the MCU. Going practical for a character like this:

Was never going to turn out well.

 

[Iceman]

Hopefully Apocalypse gets the same treatment in the MCU. Going practical for a character like this:

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Was never going to turn out well.

What a waste of Oscar Isaac too. If the MCU could gain access to PotA level tech or better (given the time gap) by the time of Beast's introduction, I wouldn't mind seeing how well they could mock him up. And if it looked good enough they should use it. I'm hoping for vastly improved CGI effects for characters like Iceman and Colossus too.

 

[Iceman]

Good god, it's true. I am the doofus

Seriously though, I know Thanos and Hulk look great but they're both character with very exaggerated facial features, and these are easier to pull off with CGI.

Then there's Proxima, who was decent for a one-off secondary villain, but She-Hulk is a different beast entirely. Whoever gets cast as her will have to possess some solid comedic chops, and comedic chops and mocap don't mesh really well. People would be too busy being creeped out by her to laugh at her silliness.

Nah, they should just paint the actress green and then enlarge her with computer magic like they did with Eitri.

Computer magic lol.

During the moments when the characters are moving through the environment, what you see on screen is a "digi-double" (a CG version of Eitri created using motion capture).

 

[Marvel united]

Dunno how true this is

What a waste of Oscar Isaac too. If the MCU could gain access to PotA level tech or better (given the time gap) by the time of Beast's introduction, I wouldn't mind seeing how well they could mock him up. And if it looked good enough they should use it. I'm hoping for vastly improved CGI effects for characters like Iceman and Colossus too.

Beast should definitely be mocap too. It's the only way to truly show his acrobatic movements without sacrifice character design like the tree trunk arms and huge hands and feet. His body should be primate-esque. Hoult looks goofy running around on all fours, it doesn't look natural at all.

I hope Marvel CGs Kurt's hands and feet as well.

 

[Darkprime]

That twitter source is claiming a lot of interesting stuff.

 

[Endeavor]

I love Eva. Anything she does for Marvel is okay by me.
The guy is a big Korath "WHO?".

 

[Endeavor]

That twitter source is claiming a lot of interesting stuff.

Would love that

 

[Marvel united]

Give me a more animalistic Beast

That skirts the line between classic Beast and cat Beast from Astonishing

 

[Dark Raven]

That twitter source is claiming a lot of interesting stuff.

I think the FF battling Namor for their first movie would be a great idea. It would be great getting some stuff both from Fox and Universal in one movie.

 

[Iceman]

That twitter source is claiming a lot of interesting stuff.

The guy on the New Mutants board who has been accurate with a tonne of things also mentioned Namor I believe. I would LOVE to see him!

 

[Iceman]

Give me a more animalistic Beast

That skirts the line between classic Beast and cat Beast from Astonishing

That's exactly what I want, very well put.

And this kind of Beast in action would provide the perfect contrast to the calm Hank McCoy in his lab coat. Kelsey Grammer was awesome as the character but his design and action scenes could have been so much better.

 

[DyfeddRex]

Okay... I have to do this....
two things.
1: Guys, (Abud/Zar), Dyfedd is pronounced Du-feth... which makes me the Doofus, and you will both stop trying to besmirch my name that way... LOL

2: Oh to be the fly on the wall if Iger passed through a TSA check point with all those duffels of cash, and told the guy "Yeah, I Bob Iger, and I need this cash to bring the FF and Xmen home." Pray it ain't a DC only fan....

 

[Abudefduf]

Computer magic lol.

Well okay, maybe Eitri wasn't a good example. lol

What about this:

Seriously, there's virtually no reason for She-Hulk to be CGI. She's just an oversized green woman.

I'm just gonna leave this here.

 

[Dark Raven]

Have Brazil approved the deal yet? What's the latest? And who is still outstanding?

 

[Iceman]

Dunno how true this is

Beast should definitely be mocap too. It's the only way to truly show his acrobatic movements without sacrifice character design like the tree trunk arms and huge hands and feet. His body should be primate-esque. Hoult looks goofy running around on all fours, it doesn't look natural at all.

I hope Marvel CGs Kurt's hands and feet as well.

I really hope we get Eva. That would certainly raise interest in the film among genre fans.

I want people to see the super-agility and acrobatics from Beast. He isn't just a strong guy and a bruiser in battle.

Yes, it looked totally unnatural when Hoult's Beast was moving while Grammer's Beast rarely moved at all.

And yep, doing Kurt's hands and feet I think would be quite easy to do.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well okay, maybe Eitri wasn't a good example. lol

What about this:

Seriously, there's virtually no reason for She-Hulk to be CGI. She's just an oversized green woman.

I'm just gonna leave this here.

What about this instead?



Use Movie Reshape to alter a woman to She-Hulk proportions. That way we can see the actress's actual performance and it won't be either CGI or mo-cap.

 

[Marvel united]

I really hope we get Eva. That would certainly raise interest in the film among genre fans.

I want people to see the super-agility and acrobatics from Beast. He isn't just a strong guy and a bruiser in battle.

Yes, it looked totally unnatural when Hoult's Beast was moving while Grammer's Beast rarely moved at all.

And yep, doing Kurt's hands and feet I think would be quite easy to do.

The scene where he's fighting Psylocke in Apocalypse is especially. The wire work is sooo obvious - especially when he catches the car. His proportions are just Hoult in makeup and he's shrimpy..

Grammar's Beast had the right physique and proportions but they were sacrificed at the cost of mobility.

Mocap gives us the best of both worlds

 

[Fallen]

RIP Jessica Jones & The Punisher.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Iceman]

The scene where he's fighting Psylocke in Apocalypse is especially. The wire work is sooo obvious - especially when he catches the car. His proportions are just Hoult in makeup and he's shrimpy..

Grammar's Beast had the right physique and proportions but they were sacrificed at the cost of mobility.

Mocap gives us the best of both worlds

Yeah, no reason not to. They could make him look so good. He needs to move too fast and unpredictably for any regular humans to be able to hit.

 

[Dark Raven]

I want Beast to look more like this:

That design with that kind of face and hairstyle. And definitely more monkey-like than cat-like.