What are your ideas for favorable changes? Everyone's idea here seems to be Fantastic Four film rights. When there's no evidence of anything of the sort.
First, and once again I have to state this: I am
not saying the FF were in the deal, so stop ignoring that (cutting it from my quotes as below) and replying to me as if I have.
Now, what would be favourable?
Obviously this is pure speculation but for one we know Marvel don't see much money from the films. Disney isn't hard up so that in itself isn't a huge issue, but if they have the chance to get a better cut (of gross points too, as it's likely the original contract is for net points given Marvel didn't have a clue what they were doing back then) then that's something I think they
would try to wrangle, not least as it reduces Fox's revenue.
2nd could be reducing Fox's cut of tie in merchandising. Disney could still refuse to make any, but if they do they'd get more of the profits. Fox getting a smaller cut from merch that is being made, rather than nothing form merch that is stonewalled, is still a better option for them there.
3rd (though probably
not able to get this one ) would be a reduction in the reversion deadlines. If they really wanted to push it going for a definitive date in the future where the rights have to elapse regardless might have been something they considered (say something like 20 years, then that's that's all fox). This one though is
highly unlikely as Fox's 'keep em forever as long as we churn out a flick' is a stranglehold I can't see them willingly giving up, especially for TV shows (which can go either way in terms of success).
Whatever the particulars might have been though the Bottom line is this: Given the chance to renegotiate the T&C's of the originally very one sided contract, Disney's lawyers would make it considerably better for Disney than it was before, and with an eye at making the overall future of the franchise with Fox weaker rather than stronger. With Fox struggling on the CBM front there is some blood is in the water. Would be Poor form for a Shark to ignore that.
Well, Marvel's been planning to do Inhumans for years. It's only now finally happening, except now as a TV series instead of a movie. The concept of Inhumans actually isn't similar to X-Men at all. The Inhumans follows the exploits of the Inhuman royal family. It's quite different than the X-Men, other than that you can argue story similarities to mutants and Inhumans and how they share some strange random powers. Sometimes they actually look physically mutated, other times the mutations or Inhuman powers are just manifested by psychic or ESP abilities.
The Inhumans movie is still on the table atm, though how that meshes with the series (if they go ahead with the flick) remains to be seen.
And not similar? I disagree: The window dressing is different but the basic concept behind the abilities is 'born that way'. Mutants get their powers from their X-Gene when they hit puberty, Inhumans from their altered DNA when they get exposed to Terrigen crystals.
No radioactive spiders, gamma rays, super solider serums, hi tech armor or suits, alien god with a super hammer, or particles that grow and shrink things. The capacity for powers is in already in their DNA from birth, so no elaborate origin story required to introduce new characters when desired.
And in recent years Terrigen was released worldwide in the books, with the new Inhumans outside of Attilan pretty much being the same as mutants (some were even going to Xaviers school).
Of course Marvel wants all of that. They want X-Men back. Too. Do you really think they don't? I'd bet Feige would love to work with the X-Men and Wolverine in his playground. But they can't for right now. It still hasn't changed. There's no evidence any of these circumstances have changed for the films.
Straw man question as you asked me about the FF,
not the X-Men. Obviously, and they have not been coy about the matter, they want
all their characters back.
Fox's TV foothold has value to Disney obviously because it's a foothold they legally couldn't realize.
It's a foothold for a
rival, one they have historically not been on great terms with, and for a property you admit yourself Marvel want back.
Until proven otherwise, there's no evidence of this deal including film rights of other character sets.
Like I've said before and said above
I don't think the FF was part of the deal. I know you want to hammer home your 'no evidence' argument, but please don't cut my comments when replying to them which show where I stand on the matter.
Lastly, this is already going round in circles. You call for evidence, which is fair enough, while others
speculate. The very nature of speculation is that there
isn't any firm evidence. You look at things, consider the possibilities, and come up with a
theory.
As such we are just gonna be repeating ourselves over and over and I cant be bothered to keep going over the same points again and again.
I prefer to remember the title of this thread, and await the day the hope might be realised.
