BvS The Superman Suit Thread - Part 2

[harryoscop]

You need to choose a side Harry. [BLACKOUT]You're a wizard.[/BLACKOUT]

It doesn't have anything to do with that and though it may not seem "on topic", it is... if you follow the string you'll find it is a defense of the MoS suit that in no way criticizes the Marvel/Vision design.

Well that's a relief thanks I hate seeing Marvel and DC fans fighting (not that I'm referring to you guys)

 

[MaskettaMan]

It's funny that when it's the MOS suit people say "the blue needs to be broken up" but when it's a Marvel character with a one-color bodysuit then it's perfect and the response is overwhelmingly positive.

I don't see those details that break up the design you're saying. That suit is even more onesie.

I has red details on his upper arms and chest, but i think the most important difference is that it look like some sort of suit, whereas Cavill looks like he's naked and someone painted his body blue. Vision already looks like he's wearing something even without the red details, whereas Cavill's suit is more formfitting and makes him look naked.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Cavill naked? Where?!

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Such beauty still.

 

[Verbal21]

Yeah, the colors on the the BvS suit are beautiful, it just sucks it'll most likely be muted on film.

 

[Young Superman]

Such beauty still.

Yes it is.

 

[Citadel30]

Man, Henry is freaking huge in that picture - suit padding or not. jeez.

** I need to hit the gym - badly. **

 

[BatScot]

... but i think the most important difference is that it look like some sort of suit, whereas Cavill looks like he's naked and someone painted his body blue. Vision already looks like he's wearing something even without the red details, whereas Cavill's suit is more formfitting and makes him look naked.

Yeah, I'm not seeing that... but then I saw red details when there apparently weren't none.~

There are two official Vision pics and one concept pic and none of them look any more of a suit or any less form fitting that Cavill's suit.

 

[MaskettaMan]

Yeah, I'm not seeing that... but then I saw red details when there apparently weren't none.~

There are two official Vision pics and one concept pic and none of them look any more of a suit or any less form fitting that Cavill's suit.

To me vision's suit looks like one of cap's movie suits. Thick and less formfitting. Cavill's is just like bodypaint. You can even see the (fake) muscles on his freaking forearms for god's sake.

 

[lc23]

To me vision's suit looks like one of cap's movie suits. Thick and less formfitting. Cavill's is just like bodypaint. You can even see the (fake) muscles on his freaking forearms for god's sake.

What? No, it's not. The Superman suit just has more obviously sculpted muscles. They look about the same as far as the thickness of the material. I wish the Superman suit looked painted on, but it doesn't.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

What? No, it's not. The Superman suit just has more obviously sculpted muscles. They look about the same as far as the thickness of the material. I wish the Superman suit looked painted on, but it doesn't.

Indeed.

 

[BatScot]

To me vision's suit looks like one of cap's movie suits. Thick and less formfitting. Cavill's is just like bodypaint. You can even see the (fake) muscles on his freaking forearms for god's sake.

I can also see the fake six pack on that Vision concept piece.

 

[MaskettaMan]

I can also see the fake six pack on that Vision concept piece.

Yes but it looks significantly thicker, has seams, and all those solid surfaces on it (like armor, or plastic pieces or whatever), so it's not like Superman or Spiderman's suit.

I dont know what else to say about it.

 

[John-An]

lmao. the difference is that the body of Cavill is REAL!!!

 

[John-An]

^ Then OP picked a poor reference and from that formed an erroneous conclusion as it is plainly obvious from the official pics that Marvel has taken the same approach as DC in breaking up the monotone bodysuit.

And again that's the pic what we were basing on. Maybe the design will be different.

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@Maskettaman and his last posts.

 

[BatScot]

And again that's the pic what we were basing on. Maybe the design will be different.

The official pics show the design IS different and even the concept pic itself shows signs of the one-color being broken up by red and yellow accents. Circling back to the original post (in which LaserBees references the Vision costume) OP writes "it's a Marvel character with a one-color bodysuit". This is not true. And it is not less false because OP failed to see the red and yellow accents in the concept pic or failed to consider the official pics. The Vision bodysuit has been shown, quite literally, to be multi-colored.

 

[John-An]

In two of the three pics. However I'm not too aware of the last pic of Vision, so... I'll just leave it like that.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Let's return serve and get a proper bright Superman pic!

 

[harryoscop]

The abs look pretty real to me in the official pic lol

 

[The Shield]

Such beauty still.

Gorgeous. It looked great on film but not this great.

 

[harryoscop]

Spoiler

It's so beautiful!

 

[lujho]

Actually the MOS sheen wasn't due to the mesh, it was due to the muscle suit underneath which was painted metallic silver in places. The BvS suit seems to be more dependant on muscle shading than the muscle suit underneath.

Yeah, it seems like they might have changed techniques, and I don't know why - the MOS version, if it IS a different technique, looked better. The new suit's muscles really do look more "painted on". I'm not sure why they possibly fixed what wasn't broken.

 

[craigaat]

I think the suit's just been airbrushed.

 

[John-An]

it has the same technique... in the official pic the suit doesn't look like that... THE SUIT IS DESIGNED TO LOOK BRIGHTER ON THE FILTER!!!

 

[SpideyFan866]

Yeah, it seems like they might have changed techniques, and I don't know why - the MOS version, if it IS a different technique, looked better. The new suit's muscles really do look more "painted on". I'm not sure why they possibly fixed what wasn't broken.

The techniques and construction on the BvS suit are considerably different from the MOS suit. On the surface, it might look the same, but its not.


Here's all the differences I spotted:

1) The first difference lies with the muscle suit. Now, for MOS, they used that metallic musicle suit (with muscles airbrushed and molded after Henry's actual musculature), with a blue "mail" oversuit, which allowed the musculature to show through, and gave it an extra metallic sheen, as well as an overall more solid look and feel (think football padding).


For Batman v Superman, they've gone with traditional muscle padding, doing away with the metallic undersuit, and used airbrushing for the muscle effect. Though, at the same time, maintaining the solid look the previous suit had.


2) The wrist gauntlets, and leg and waist "armor" pieces were separate pieces that were glued/sewn on to the previous suit, and were more of a grayish color. This, exacerbated by the metallic sheen of the undersuit.

For BvS, those sections are raised, alternatively colored bits of the pversuit, and they are more blue-ish in color, blending in more with the rest of the suit, and not standing out as much as they did on the MOS suit. In addition, the detailing of each part has been altered, adding more negative space on those embellishments, creating a more streamlined look.

3) The colors of the suit have been slightly brightened (due in large part to the lack of the MOS undersuit, whoms light refraction diluted the suit color on the previous), and is slightly richer in hue. And, due to change in the muscle suit, the colors now have a less glossy look, in favor a more matte finish.

4) The boots have been altered to include the traditional "cuffed" look at the top, as well as altered to giving a more solid heel, and overall boot look.

and lastly,

5) The S shield has been decreased in height, and raised closer to the collar, which itself has been decreased in length, creating a smaller neckline and slightly more concealed attachment point for the cape. In addition, the chainmail pattern on the S shield has been concentrated from what it was in MOS, giving it a more matte look.



Now they are not very noticable at first glance, but they are large changes compared to what was done of the previous suit.

As far as the reasoning behind them, the color changes and switch from the metallic undersuit probably stems from the occasional color issues seen in MOS. In addition, the switch from the metallic muscle suit and separate gauntlet/waist pieces were likely to increase the flexibility and movement of the suit, as well to make the suit more comfortable more comfortable for Henry, who wore a total of 3 layers with the previous (counter skin suit underneath the muscle suit).