The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread IX

[DoomsdayApex]

DMG, that is your opinion, but to me (and several members) Captain America looks like a boy in that suit. Sure, you could try to debate that the suit only looks awful because of the angles and lighting but let's face it, those who see a ten year old trick-or-treating are going to continue to see a ten year trick-or-treating. No amount of editing is going to help the issue.

Thank Shiva The Destroyer that Batman did not meet The Captain's unfortunate fate.

 

[JAK®]

Sure, you could try to debate that the suit only looks awful because of the angles and lighting but let's face it, those who see a ten year old trick-or-treating are going to continue to see a ten year trick-or-treating. No amount of editing is going to help the issue.

Yeah, some people are just stubborn, I know.

 

[バット人]

favorite suit next to the TDK suit personally. cannot wait for hottoys TDKR and BANE!!!

Spoiler

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Yeah, some people are just stubborn, I know.

Quite.

 

[the dmg]

DMG, that is your opinion,

Yes, I know it's my opinion. That's why I have stated it.

but to me (and several members) Captain America looks like a boy in that suit.

Which is your opinion as well. I'm not sure if you realize this, but to me (and several others), the Cap suit and Evans look great. It doesn't make my opinion or yours any less valid because I like the costume and you don't.

Sure, you could try to debate that the suit only looks awful because of the angles and lighting but let's face it,

The suit doesn't even look awful because of certain angles or lighting at all. I never said that. All I said was that he looks goofy in certain shots because of the cowl. Goofy doesn't mean awful. As I've shown in pics where they are filming, the suit and cowl look great. The same can be said for TDK's batsuit, which looks great in the movie because you can't see everything at certain times.

those who see a ten year old trick-or-treating are going to continue to see a ten year trick-or-treating. No amount of editing is going to help the issue.

No amount of editing will help the people that have issues with and see Batman looking too "SWAT" or like "Robocop" or even like "Iron Man."

What's your point? I forgot, you think the TDK batsuit is perfect.

Thank Shiva The Destroyer that Batman did not meet The Captain's unfortunate fate.

Yeah, they just went with another rubber suit. How original.

 

[EliteF50]

I think the best Batsuit we've ever gotten, hands down, is the BR suit.

Second best would be Batman Begins.

 

[the dmg]

I think the best Batsuit we've ever gotten, hands down, is the BR suit.

Agreed. BR batsuit FTW.

 

[Doctor Who]

My personal favorite

Spoiler

Oh, and that zipper on the back.... makes complete sense if you ask me.

 

[Mister Meddle]

It's not perfect but the best live action Batsuit is definitely the Returns suit.

 

[Secret Fawful]

I preferred the Begins suit.

 

[Mister Meddle]

Begins suit is my 2nd favorite. But IMO the Returns suit is the best. It has a lot to do with the perfect cowl.

 

[Jalexander]

There has yet to be a live action Batsuit that perfectly represents the character in my opinion.

 

[Doctor Who]

I wouldn't say a perfect cowl....

*quickly slips on DK suit and turns head from left to right*

*changes out of DK suit and into Keaton suit; turns chest and shoulders in same motion making a 70 degree turn to look left to right with no neck use*

 

[Jalexander]

Personally I didn't mind the restrictions the Keaton cowls had, it gave Batman a unique, almost supernatural style of movement.

Although it hindered what could be done in fight scenes. But then again, more movement didn't help Nolan's lackluster fights.

Basically, Batman costumes should stop being made out of rubber.

 

[Mister Meddle]

I wouldn't say a perfect cowl....

*quickly slips on DK suit and turns head from left to right*

*changes out of DK suit and into Keaton suit; turns chest and shoulders in same motion making a 70 degree turn to look left to right with no neck use*

Until we get an actual realistic Batsuit (not a 200 pound costume with 100 elastic rubber pieces) I really could care less about this. The design of the cowl, by far, surpasses TDK's bobblehead mask. All what matters in film is what looks good to us, the viewers. Batman being able to turn his head doesn't make up for the overall cowl.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Which is your opinion as well. I'm not sure if you realize this, but to me (and several others), the Cap suit and Evans look great. It doesn't make my opinion or yours any less valid because I like the costume and you don't.

I never intended my statement to sound in that manner.

The suit doesn't even look awful because of certain angles or lighting at all. I never said that. All I said was that he looks goofy in certain shots because of the cowl. Goofy doesn't mean awful. As I've shown in pics where they are filming, the suit and cowl look great. The same can be said for TDK's batsuit, which looks great in the movie because you can't see everything at certain times.

Not going to deny that I enjoy the design but when the suit is wrapped around Evans, it's a different story. The suit appears like a halloween costume.

I never stated that YOU said it seemed awful. I was paraphrasing.

The hemlet is a big reason why Chris appears goofy. The utility belt doesn't help the cause either, in my opinion.

No amount of editing will help the people that have issues with and see Batman looking too "SWAT" or like "Robocop" or even like "Iron Man."

I think Batman has the right look. This is the first time I've heard anyone compare Batman to Robocop or Iron Man though. I didn't know Batman's suit literally weighed a ton and was composed of steel.

Don't know if you realize this but Batman has been compared to a SWAT or Special Ops soldier several times by writers, directors and fans. Soooo... point?

What's your point? I forgot, you think the TDK batsuit is perfect.
Yeah, they just went with another rubber suit. How original.

Do I love the design? Yes. Do I think it's perfect? No.

Don't get me started on originality. The cloth suit had it's moments from the 40's to the 80's.

 

[Jalexander]

The cloth suit had it's moments from the 40's to the 80's.

But never in a way that could be considered remotely respectable. You think the Adam West suit is the best a fabric costume could offer?

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Nope, but neither does the Captain America suit.

I would make several changes to the cowl, utility belt, shoulder wings, and body armor underneath.

 

[Mister Meddle]

The cloth suit had it's moments from the 40's to the 80's.

You're only talking about spandex. It shouldn't be confused with an actual suit that a real life Batman could actually wear when in combat. The rubber approach is completely fictional due to the massive weight and lack of flexibility.

 

[Lily Adler]

BR Suit is pretty kick ass!

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Spiderman, Batman, The X-Men, etc all wore cloth-based suits during these times.

While rubber is fictional, so is cloth without armor present underneath.

 

[Mister Meddle]

While rubber is fictional, so is cloth without armor present underneath.

Nobody suggested a fabric suit without any protection. I believe Boom provided a very informative post the other day about actual armors that are flexible as well as bulletproof fabrics. If anything the idea sounds much better than a somewhat stiff rubber plated suit that weighs a ton. Not only could Batman twist and turn in every possible way and not only would he carry less weight but his suit could protect him much better than anything Nolan & Co. came up with.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Nobody suggested a fabric suit without any protection.

But here lies the tradeoff:

With Batman losing the bodysuit and/or plating, it'll leave Batman more exposed. Batman can only wear so much body armor before it starts weighing as much as the bodysuit does. While he'll be faster and more agile, he's prune to receiving more life-threating wounds.

 

[Mister Meddle]

But here lies the tradeoff:

With Batman losing the bodysuit and/or plating, it'll leave Batman more exposed. Batman can only wear so much body armor before it starts weighing as much as the bodysuit does. While he'll be faster and more agile, he's prune to receiving more life-threating wounds.

You typed your response before I modified my last post. It explains how the approach could better suit Batman in every possible way:

I believe Boom provided a very informative post the other day about actual armors that are flexible as well as bulletproof fabrics. If anything the idea sounds much better than a somewhat stiff rubber plated suit that weighs a ton. Not only could Batman twist and turn in every possible way and not only would he carry less weight but his suit could protect him much better than anything Nolan & Co. came up with.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

While that would be ingenious, spider silk and liquid armor have yet to be proven effective in the battlefield.

I'm going to be keeping a close eye on these elements. The next Batman film is likely to arrive in theaters 6-7 years from now, so we'll see where we are at with the new thinner and lighter materials.

Liquid armor, especially, has been highly unstable.