The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Gianakin_]

It is a great suit. The best from the old films, imo.

 

[tnr105]

To each his own, I always preferred the Keaton '89 suit (Although the symbol always did but me a bit) It was sculpted, without being "anatomically correct" like Schumacher's.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I really hope thats not gonna happen. I hated it in the movie an couldnt believe Nolan did this. For me it felt so out of place and it was a thing that for me single handedly drained out all the realism and seriousness. It was too Schumacher-like, and after all, Schumacher first introduced the glowing eyes in his over the top poppy Batman Forever. It doesnt work in the movie, its too over the top

No... I think you're being too harsh on that. It only happened for like, what? One shot? The best thing about it was Sonar-Vision, and since that's destroyed he'll want to do something about the white eyes. Nolan did something similar with Ra's and even Batman himself in his 'fear toxin-induced vision' shots in Begins. With Ra's/Ducard it was a more demonic whitened pupils, with Batman it was when he scoured through the night, wings out-drawn, and the sick, demented zombified remains of the Narrow's population looked up to see a wraith screeching by. I think it worked well.

Personally, I don't mind the normal eyes, it allows the actor a lot to do and hell, at times makes Batman more terrifying, but I wouldn't mind a proper use of those whitened eyes in this film.

 

[RustyCage]

I wonder if it would still be considered 'over the top' if Schumacher hadn't done it first.

It fit with the science/tech aspect of the film and felt perfectly natural and believable, to me.

 

[Travesty]

I wonder if it would still be considered 'over the top' if Schumacher hadn't done it first.

It fit with the science/tech aspect of the film and felt perfectly natural and believable, to me.

I didn't necessarily hate it, but I thought the sonar goggles looked silly on the suit.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

As much as I would like to see the white eyes, I don't think we'll be seeing anymore.

I think the sonar device was Nolan's opportunity to give a nod to the fans for a few minutes. Since that device is no more, I think we've seen the last of the white eyes.

I could, however, see him doing something similar using another piece of tech, but it would probably coincide with a different visual cue. If he uses, say, thermal vision or x-ray, I could see his eyes glowing red. But I'd imagine white = sonar.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

So... lets say we'll have something inspired by this for a revised Bat-suit, after Bane successfully breaks the Batman in TDK gear (the one with "weak spots" that makes it "more vulnerable to gunfire and knives"):

The blade-like scallops and gauntlets remind me of TDK, but they look awful here.
The 'helmet' like cowl/mask seems to work. This one would look heavier. The wings are too dynamic for the 'function-appropriate' take that Nolan's shown so far. But it could fit in with the 'rigid' memory cloth idea.

Dear lord too yellow!

I don't like the confusion on the med-section; maybe that square on the chest is replaced by the bat-insignia like it happened with Azrael. Those scallops on the legs are...meh. But overall, I dunno, something similar to this that intimidation could be worthwhile. Maybe. The biggest problem with the design seems to be the colour-choices. And, of course, the fact that this will make Batman look more like a teenage Iron-Man who's read too many issues of Spawn. What do you guys think about it?

Also:

Dudebro.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

I think that if Nolan uses anything like that, he missed the point of Knightfall (or Knightsend, whatever). Bruce never wore that rig, Azrael did. And it was considered by Tim and Bruce to be a bastardization of the Bat.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I didn't necessarily hate it, but I thought the sonar goggles looked silly on the suit.

Yeah it actually looked terrible! That's why I'm saying IF it's back... it needs to be changed...it's the white-eyes we deserve, but not the one we need right now. :P

As much as I would like to see the white eyes, I don't think we'll be seeing anymore.

I think the sonar device was Nolan's opportunity to give a nod to the fans for a few minutes. Since that device is no more, I think we've seen the last of the white eyes.

I could, however, see him doing something similar using another piece of tech, but it would probably coincide with a different visual cue. If he uses, say, thermal vision or x-ray, I could see his eyes glowing red. But I'd imagine white = sonar.

Like...AzBats?

 

[RustyCage]

What do you guys think about it?

 

[RustyCage]

As much as I would like to see the white eyes, I don't think we'll be seeing anymore.

I think the sonar device was Nolan's opportunity to give a nod to the fans for a few minutes. Since that device is no more, I think we've seen the last of the white eyes.

I could, however, see him doing something similar using another piece of tech, but it would probably coincide with a different visual cue. If he uses, say, thermal vision or x-ray, I could see his eyes glowing red. But I'd imagine white = sonar.

Nice. I'd love that.

And I agree, it seemed like just a small nod, and it would appear that they're done with the sonar thing. But who knows, maybe Bruce will install that million-screened computer in the Batcave for Alfred to operate when necessary.

I didn't necessarily hate it, but I thought the sonar goggles looked silly on the suit.

It needed a little bit of refining, visually, yeah. So did the suit itself. C'est la vie.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I think that if Nolan uses anything like that, he missed the point of Knightfall (or Knightsend, whatever). Bruce never wore that rig, Azrael did. And it was considered by Tim and Bruce to be a bastardization of the Bat.

Jean-Paul's ethics were the real bastardisation. The suit kept to the aura of Batman as an avenging wraith. Hell, the entire suit pretty much evolved to the point where any one-design wasn't even definitive.

If they do decide to tackle Knightfall, they'll need to allude to Knightsend and that's going to be tricky with no Jean-Paul. The best I can think about right now is Bane taking over Batman's vigilantism in the same way Valley did. I'm still not sure if Batman needs to update his suit after having his back broken (if that ever happens) it would kill the idea about redemption since it would be a different 'Batman'.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

Jean-Paul's ethics were the real bastardisation. The suit kept to the aura of Batman as an avenging wraith. Hell, the entire suit pretty much evolved to the point where any one-design wasn't even definitive.

It was an evil thing, heh. The System was compelling Jean Paul to keep designing this monstrosity.

Not to mention the War Machine-like weapons systems, and the fact that it was clumsy and cumbersome and ultimately lead to his defeat by "all I need is my bare hands" Wayne.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

To each his own, I always preferred the Keaton '89 suit (Although the symbol always did but me a bit).

I actually liked the symbol, it gave the suit it's own thing. And reminded me a bit of the old series too (in retrospect of course), while still being very appropriate in its own right. Although...

fine okay, no AzBats. But this pic makes me grateful that the current mask is actually tight around his damn face. I'm a big fan of the current mask, it almost has emotions of its own. Bale did well.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

It was an evil thing, heh. The System was compelling Jean Paul to keep designing this monstrosity.

Not to mention the War Machine-like weapons systems, and the fact that it was clumsy and cumbersome and ultimately lead to his defeat by "all I need is my bare hands" Wayne.

Hehe, true. The System was...all kinds of sensationalistic. Somehow I bought it back then.

But I liked how Bruce ultimately beat the guy with his wit instead of bare hands. I wonder if he 'breaks' Bane like that?

 

[Nave 'Torment']

The white-eyes remind me of this more than anything else:

Two more pics before I let you guys go.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Spoiler

Or maybe we'll see this

Spoiler

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Batman makes me want to hate mechas... but I...just...can't...

 

[RustyCage]

Spoiler

Reminds me strongly of Big O.

And maybe a splash of Robocop.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Too much of Robo actually... Ross apparently used an old RoboCop action figure as a model when he made this. Says so on his book Mythologies.

 

[RustyCage]

Come to think of it, it also reminds me of a couple of the designs from Gotham Knight. Le sigh.

 

[mcallima]

Something like the Batsuit from the "In Lex We Trust" DC Universe Online trailer would be great for a post-Bane suit.

 

[JAK®]

I wonder if it would still be considered 'over the top' if Schumacher hadn't done it first.

It fit with the science/tech aspect of the film and felt perfectly natural and believable, to me.

But armour under fabric doesn't?

 

[RustyCage]

But armour under fabric doesn't?

Um, sure it does, and I never said otherwise. In fact I was a supporter of it like three years ago. Maybe more.

That was random.

 

[JAK®]

Um, sure it does, and I never said otherwise. In fact I was a supporter of it like three years ago. Maybe more.

That was random.

I thought you said once that type of costume wouldn't work in Nolan's movies. Sorry if I'm wrong.