The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Paste Pot Pete]

There's any number of materials they could use. Hell, the Daredevil suit was leather and still looked more like the comic than most movie costumes.

I'd say more important than the material used is the design and color scheme. Even another rubber suit, accurately painted and with a good bat logo, would be a step in the right direction.

 

[GothamAlleys]

The issue Ringwood addressed in his concept of the suit was-and still is-a viable one in a movie adaptation of the comics: why would a man with virtually unlimited resources simply wear tights and no protection while going up against armed criminals?

As explained before, flexibility and lack of ANY restriction of movement whatsoever. Spandex provides that. And again, I dont see and never thought of Batman as wearing circus thighs. I guess its a matter of perception, but if he really does, then that only speaks for the functionality of that costume - just like the circus performers, his moves are completely uncompromised. Batman in comics moves very much like Spiderman (especially in Breyfogle's illustrations, the guys just like Spidey!), and just like him, he can be hurt but doesnt wear any protection because he relies on his physical movement and durability so it cant be compromised in any way

Its actually the movie suit that doesnt make sense when it comes to functionality. It weights a lot and slows down movement, not to mention that it greatly reduces the ability to move. And also, with a thick head mask, it dimms down the perception and hearing as well. The fact that the mask sticks out from the face also restraints eyesight. But so what? It looks stunning and fits the movie look and feel

Spandex allows very flexible and aerobic movements, impossible with body suit

So let's end the argument over the tights. They simply won't work in the films.

I think they would with proper treatment. Dead End suit was ok, a big budget movie's top designer would make it look great and Adam West didnt look that awful either. And again, Im not saying Batman should wear the spandex suit in the movies, we already got used to the black armor approach and it works PERFECTly for the movies. All Im doing is simply defending Batman in general who came under fire in this thread as having "silly" costume overall in the comics which to me is outrageous

 

[RustyCage]

In Haunted Knight, Alfred refers to them as 'long johns'. I guess it's made out of that material?

 

[GothamAlleys]

well, I'd be scared of a guy dressed like that allright, but in a different way

 

[Nave 'Torment']

How about, because Batman's armor is so obvious, Bane starts ripping the pieces off during the fight, leaving Batman bare and unprotected. This could prompt Batman to wear the armor underneath the kevlar material.

I know it's unlikely but I'm going to keep pushing for this. The only thing I can't work in is an explanation for briefs and with the way Batman currently looks in the comics, chances are high that they won't use it anyway. Which I'd be cool with because the current look is pretty awesome.

No... I like that drawing a lot, I love the design as well, but I don't see that as something for Begins. And it's got a lot to do with the yellow insignia Consistency baby.

if they ever do have a go at Batman Beyond, having something like the Tron suits would really please me and a few others i know

That's what I said

That's better, but i still dont like the openings with the mesh, the rivets and the Begins cowl, in other words a huge piece of plastic over the cloth cape. I'd rather they use CGI and make cape and cowl one. Now if someone could manip this....

I really want to see something like what you said in the next franchise, which I want to be even more visually comic-accurate and taking place around the time Batman's well-established. Doesn't have to be a direct continuation of Nolan's films though.

Then how they're able to flip around while Bale had trouble turning his head is beyond me.

Coz he's wearing that cowl.

There's any number of materials they could use. Hell, the Daredevil suit was leather and still looked more like the comic than most movie costumes.

I'd say more important than the material used is the design and color scheme. Even another rubber suit, accurately painted and with a good bat logo, would be a step in the right direction.

That's something I've been saying for a long time now, but there aren't many ears who're willing to receive it! I agree btw.

 

[D.P.]

Not gonna lie, I wish Batman displayed a little more agility in the movies.

 

[DaveMoral]

The practicality of Batman's costume is hampered by the fact that they've gone for the fully covered in armor thing. The cowl should be armored and the torso, but I'm not sure I see the point of the arms and legs. People aren't taking aim for arms and legs when shooting for the most part. That would free him up and awful lot IMO.

 

[Savage]

No... I like that drawing a lot, I love the design as well, but I don't see that as something for Begins. And it's got a lot to do with the yellow insignia Consistency baby.

Ah. A hater of the yellow logo then? I say it's perfectly consistent. The bat logo has only been getting smaller in the movies anyway so just slap a yellow oval behind it so people can actually see it.

Coz he's wearing that cowl.

You're missing the point. These guys have full range of movement with their limbs. Bale can't turn his neck, far less for flip around. And yet this is supposed to be the same material?

 

[Travesty]

Not gonna lie, I wish Batman displayed a little more agility in the movies.

Well, when you have a rubber suit, it's hard to do anything spectacular while in it. Sure, he can "turn his head", but other then that, the actual suit is heavy as hell, so it's not like he'll be doing any kind of backflips or anything crazy in it.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

God... Those Norm Breyfogle panels are stunning.

Let's face it, we are never going to get a ''comic-book'' suit in a Nolan movie. Maybe next time.

 

[Lencho01]

Yeah, we may have to wait until there's another Batman film outside of Nolanverse.

 

[DaveMoral]

Breyfogle's work is stunning.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I'm with Paste Pot on this one; I'd rather not see Batman get a new suit because Bane beats him up or whatever.

Well, one of the purposes of the Bat-suit is to help him take down whatever enemy he's up against, a gradual evolution doesn't have to be that bad. Bruce has been using specialized suits for years in the comics, it's a joke now? Besides, I hope they change the suit. TDK was cool as hell, but it's not THE bat-suit.

Not gonna lie, I wish Batman displayed a little more agility in the movies.

True, the way Nolan answered that was how martial arts-savvy fighting scenes look more like choreographed dancing than actual combat. Maybe he's just not a fan? But you're right, a little more JAB, KICK, POW wouldn't be too bad.

Ah. A hater of the yellow logo then? I say it's perfectly consistent. The bat logo has only been getting smaller in the movies anyway so just slap a yellow oval behind it so people can actually see it.

I wouldn't call myself a 'hater', just wouldn't prefer it in these films. I like the alternative, bat-only symbol, and I love the symbol that Nolan's made. I want to see that done more justice on the costume, instead of the yellow logo. And colour-wise the only way it wouldn't seem off on the suit is if it's a breed of that gold utility belt.

You're missing the point. These guys have full range of movement with their limbs. Bale can't turn his neck, far less for flip around. And yet this is supposed to be the same material?

Again, I'm not familiar with the Tron costume. But if the same material was used in BATMAN BEGINS I would say the suit's limited maneuverability came from the way the neck and cowl were of a single piece. The limbs here don't look any different. And, to be honest, it's held together like TDK's suit, so I wouldn't be surprised if the design had anything to do with it.

And just because we're on the subject, the ability to 'not move his head' didn't affect the believability at all. At least not for me. I barely noticed it. The most visible was Clooney's, but that's because the man refused to keep his head still.

God... Those Norm Breyfogle panels are stunning.

Let's face it, we are never going to get a ''comic-book'' suit in a Nolan movie. Maybe next time.

Exactly my point, I love that classic suit. Let's wait for "BATMAN'S BACK!!!" or some other thing after this trilogy's over.

 

[Savage]

His head was just an example of a limb that couldn't move properly by the way. I just wanted to mention that since you seem so stuck on the head thing. Here, I'll say he could barely move his limbs around and have proper fight scenes far less for flip around, so you get the idea.

 

[RustyCage]

Breyfogle's work is stunning.

I love his lines there, but the coloring leaves a lot to be desired. I imagine they bring in someone else to do that stuff though.

 

[Bathead]

Do we now?

Maybe not all, but there's a lot that do. Whether or not they are in the minority or majority is a matter of debate.

 

[antsman41]

I love his lines there, but the coloring leaves a lot to be desired. I imagine they bring in someone else to do that stuff though.

Yeah, the late 80's early 90's had really really amazing art, but was ruined by very bright and weird/odd colors...

grrr.

 

[regwec]

I actually like that, but I suppose it's just because that is what I grew up with.

I hate both U2 and "Batman Forever", but I thought that the animated segments of the former's pop video for their song for the latter were great, they referenced that lurid style really well.

 

[regwec]

Edit: Double the post, double the fun.

 

[antsman41]

I actually like that, but I suppose it's just because that is what I grew up with.

I hate both U2 and "Batman Forever", but I thought that the animated segments of the former's pop video for their song for the latter were great, they referenced that lurid style really well.

I do miss the awesome paper smell. I hate reading comics now and if it is too sunny out or the lights are at the right angle the pages glare. I miss book paper, the new magazine like paper sucks...

 

[regwec]

They were printing lower-circulation comics on the same paper only six or seven years ago. I recall "Catwoman" comic being matte, at least.

 

[Saint]

The newsprint paper had some nice qualities, but the new paper is better overall. I wonder if the new paper is going to age any better; I was reading a TPB printed on newsprint from the nineties the other day, and the paper had yellowed significantly.

One problem though is that some comics go overboard with black these days, and the art becomes muddy.

 

[RustyCage]

The bookstore I go to has TLH and Haunted Knight in the old paper style (as well as the new), and the color quality is much better (I compared two copies of TLH), and lacks that annoying glare - as well as the plasticky squeak when you move your thumb across the edge of the page. Bleh. Old stuff ftw.

 

[regwec]

I have Catwoman 1-7, bought recently from a lovely shop in Oxford. The pages look beautiful, with strong blacks and whites and primary ink-jet colour. If I had a scanner in this place, I would share it with you. It has some quality Selina/Bane time.

It's entirely subjective, but it seems to have an air of permanence about it which today's comics don't. It might be the bolder, more formalized artistic style, or it might be the heavy textured paper, but it is a raw dose of delicious nostalgia.

I used to have the Breyfogle illustrated Mudpack run. Where is it? I know it's somewhere.

 

[Saint]

The bookstore I go to has TLH and Haunted Knight in the old paper style (as well as the new), and the color quality is much better (I compared two copies of TLH), and lacks that annoying glare - as well as the plasticky squeak when you move your thumb across the edge of the page. Bleh. Old stuff ftw.

Well, I'm not surprised that a book that was coloured for newsprint looks better on newsprint. Paper stock is one of the many considerations that goes in to colouring for print, and switching the paper can create unexpected results.