The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE) - - Part 57

[dark_b]

Well, when is it ok then for the possibility of leaks to occur? A screening for press is going to take place at least 2-3 weeks before release date, we're just as likely to have leaks then as we are in late May. In fact chances are fewer people in Cannes would end up seeing the movie.

JMC are we on the same page? 3 weeks is not the same as 2 months. this is around 8 weeks. its easier for a fan or the general public to stay away from spoilers when the reviews in july are realesed. its impossible to not be spoiled if TDKR is realesed at cannes.

JMC can we agree?

 

[dark_b]

Canne's doesn't have much of an effect on the Oscars though. In fact tons of people who win big awards in May are completely ignored in the winter. It's kind of crap.

your post is like 100% fact. but i dont want to force my opinion as fact because i know how it looks on forums. like i am being a smartass. TDKR will win oscars if the oscar old voters decide. lets go back to 2011. remember when C.Nolan was NOT nominated for best director? not forget about not winning. winning. but not even nominated?


but still we are ignoring the fact that a lot TIME and MONEY was spend that TDKR's story and pictures dont leak on the internet. noticed how nto a single pixture leaked from TDKR? thats how much time and moeny they have spend on the security. to throw all of this away in may? because noone can explain to me why it would be important to not have leaks from december until april. and then in may say '' f.. it''.

 

[craigdbfan]

Well, when is it ok then for the possibility of leaks to occur? A screening for press is going to take place at least 2-3 weeks before release date, we're just as likely to have leaks then as we are in late May. In fact chances are fewer people in Cannes would end up seeing the movie. So when is it ok to screen the movie?

A whole 2 months is different from 2 weeks. That's expected. No one is worried about that thus specifically mentioning Cannes and it taking a whole 2 months before TDKR release.

That 2 week period when the press is shown the film is a given so staying away from movie related anything on the internet is pretty obvious if one wants to remain unspoiled.

That's not very hard to do. Abstaining for a whole 2 months from social media in general is a different question though. Not impossible but pretty unlikely for the people visiting this site and even for those who casually surf various parts of social media (Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr).

 

[jmc]

JMC are we on the same page? 3 weeks is not the same as 2 months. this is around 8 weeks. its easier for a fan or the general public to stay away from spoilers when the reviews in july are realesed. its impossible to not be spoiled if TDKR is realesed at cannes.

JMC can we agree?

No because you're being paranoid.

 

[redhawk23]

^and those press screenings are held by WB and their afiliates themselves. Cannes is a festival ran by a whole different organization with a media blitz focus.

On the flip side, Cannes could catapult the film as the de-facto Oscar film to beat this year if it gets raves upon raves at Cannes.

It works both ways. That's the chance you take if you go to Cannes.

WB doesn't need Cannes at all but why even mention the film in the article?

The problem with that is that does absolutely no good to be seen as the early front runner, the "film to beat" is usually the film that is beaten. The Oscar voters have often been quoted about some weird theory about film's popularity "peaking" too early, as if it makes the film any less deserving or better than the other films.

I was infuriated to hear a lot of talking about "peaking" when it came to The Social Network.

At the same time, there is the occasional first half of the year film like The Hurt Locker, but that is very very rare.

 

[jmc]

A whole 2 months is different from 2 weeks. That's expected. No one is worried about that thus specifically mentioning Cannes and it taking a whole 2 months before TDKR release.

That 2 week period when the press is shown the film is a given so staying away from movie related anything on the internet is pretty obvious if one wants to remain unspoiled.

That's not very hard to do. Abstaining for a whole 2 months from social media in general is a different question though. Not impossible but pretty unlikely for the people visiting this site and even for those who casually surf various parts of social media (Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr).

But what are we worried about exactly? Some reviewer is gonna be a *****e and twitter the ending? That isn't going to happen, the film and the director has garnered enough respect from people in the industry not to do that. Again, imagine the buzz if the response is glowing.

 

[redhawk23]

your post is like 100% fact. but i dont want to force my opinion as fact because i know how it looks on forums. like i am being a smartass. TDKR will win oscars if the oscar old voters decide. lets go back to 2011. remember when C.Nolan was NOT nominated for best director? not forget about not winning. winning. but not even nominated?


but still we are ignoring the fact that a lot TIME and MONEY was spend that TDKR's story and pictures dont leak on the internet. noticed how nto a single pixture leaked from TDKR? thats how much time and moeny they have spend on the security. to throw all of this away in may? because noone can explain to me why it would be important to not have leaks from december until april. and then in may say '' f.. it''.

What are you talking about we have hundreds of pages worth of on set pics, Cotillards real role was spoiled by people seeing her costume on set (and a blabbering young actress).

That said I understand your point.

 

[lordofthenerds]

But what are we worried about exactly? Some reviewer is gonna be a *****e and twitter the ending? That isn't going to happen, the film and the director has garnered enough respect from people in the industry not to do that. Again, imagine the buzz if the response is glowing.

You honestly believe that? Come on now.

 

[Greens]

But what are we worried about exactly? Some reviewer is gonna be a *****e and twitter the ending? That isn't going to happen, the film and the director has garnered enough respect from people in the industry not to do that. Again, imagine the buzz if the response is glowing.

Imagine the sweat if the response is bad

 

[dark_b]

What are you talking about we have hundreds of pages worth of on set pics, Cotillards real role was spoiled by people seeing her costume on set (and a blabbering young actress).

That said I understand your point.

i meant not a single official picture from WB's computer got leaked. remember with SPiderman 3,Superman returns,TDK? the security was insane

 

[craigdbfan]

But what are we worried about exactly? Some reviewer is gonna be a *****e and twitter the ending? That isn't going to happen, the film and the director has garnered enough respect from people in the industry not to do that. Again, imagine the buzz if the response is glowing.

No because you're being paranoid.

I often disagree with dark_b but he's right. If it's shown at Cannes the story details will be leaked out in all likelihood.

Security & the projectionist sure as heck aren't as tied down as those attending the viewing. They don't have to sign some contract and have their review embargoed. They'll probably mention it to someone else and then it'll snowball from there once film sites get word of it.

Plus even if they don't release their review, do you honestly think none of them will blurt out the ending or big plot details to people they know who haven't seen the movie? Ha.

 

[redhawk23]

But what are we worried about exactly? Some reviewer is gonna be a *****e and twitter the ending? That isn't going to happen, the film and the director has garnered enough respect from people in the industry not to do that. Again, imagine the buzz if the response is glowing.

That's just the thing, what dark b's getting at, you're not talking about an american premier or the American press, or hollywood. You're dealing with tons of people from all over the world at an event ran by a whole different group of people who have their own protocols for everything.

Have you ever been to a press screening? They have that crap locked down tight even when its a smaller film 3 days before its release, making people check in their phones and even using special night vision cameras that can pick up digital cameras filming, and that's just for Woman in Black or Cabin in the Woods.

 

[jmc]

Fine, you all can look at the glass half empty if you want. If they show it I ain't gonna complain.

 

[insider1970]

Hey guys (and girls), I don't think you should argue about that. Probably it's most of a speculation on the article's side. BUT if there is some credibility on it, I highly doubt they will show the WHOLE film in the festival. After all, it's a common thing to show the first 20 minutes of big blockbuster films just for the sake of buzz. Last example was "Super 8". Just do a google search and you will come along a bunch of films that did the same at Cannes film festival. I really don't think we will get more than this, IF it's there..

 

[Norek]

Guys, don't worry about it that much. Seriously.

This is Nolan. We all know how secretive he is. If he's okay with the film being presented at Cannes, then he knows what he's doing. We're not even 100% sure at this point if it will be anyway.

 

[jmc]

Guys, don't worry about it that much. Seriously.

This is Nolan. We all know how secretive he is. If he's okay with the film being presented at Cannes, then he knows what he's doing. We're not even 100% sure at this point if it will be anyway.

Exactly.

 

[craigdbfan]

Hey guys (and girls), I don't think you should argue about that. Probably it's most of a speculation on the article's side. BUT if there is some credibility on it, I highly doubt they will show the WHOLE film in the festival. After all, it's a common thing to show the first 20 minutes of big blockbuster films just for the sake of buzz. Last example was "Super 8". Just do a google search and you will come along a bunch of films that did the same at Cannes film festival. I really don't think we will get more than this, IF it's there..

That's probably it.

I don't think they'll be showing the whole thing either. It doesn't make any sense especially with the marketing campaign they've been carrying so far.

 

[redhawk23]

There's no indication that it actually is playing at Canne's just that WB has flaunted that the film is done.

 

[jmc]

Hey guys (and girls), I don't think you should argue about that. Probably it's most of a speculation on the article's side. BUT if there is some credibility on it, I highly doubt they will show the WHOLE film in the festival. After all, it's a common thing to show the first 20 minutes of big blockbuster films just for the sake of buzz. Last example was "Super 8". Just do a google search and you will come along a bunch of films that did the same at Cannes film festival. I really don't think we will get more than this, IF it's there..

That is a valid point.

 

[jmc]

I should apologise for getting a little heated, I was suddenly imagining The Dark Knight Rises name being read for the Palme d'Or .

 

[J.Howlett]

I should apologise for getting a little heated, I was suddenly imagining The Dark Knight Rises name being read for the Palme d'Or .

Nice.

 

[dark_b]

Guys, don't worry about it that much. Seriously.

This is Nolan. We all know how secretive he is. If he's okay with the film being presented at Cannes, then he knows what he's doing. We're not even 100% sure at this point if it will be anyway.

the problem with this post is that you are trying to make Nolan into a god. Nolan has a lot control at WB. WB is a studio.Nolan makes movie with that studio. but Nolan can not go to Cannes and tell them that they will screen his movie and that they will do what he wants. very different. very very different.

 

[J.Howlett]

the problem with this post is that you are trying to make Nolan into a god. Nolan has a lot control at WB. WB is a studio.Nolan makes movie with that studio. but Nolan can not go to Cannes and tell them that they will screen his movie and that they will do what he wants. very different. very very different.

Close to 3 billion in box office receipts delivered to WB off of his films might give him more pull than you think.

 

[Pagan]

yeah if it plays at Cannes the plot will be spoiled.

 

[jmc]

That's assuming Nolan's the one pushing for Cannes, there could be a mutual agreement from both him and WB that Cannes would be a great way to debut some or all of Rises.