The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE) - - - Part 58

[Nevincer]

I'm cool with him doing it as long as it's not that whacko script he wrote with Frank Miller.

Yeah, I'm not sure how I'd feel about a direction like that script

 

[MultipleJesuses]

How do we know Gotham's electricity in knocked out? Don't we have plenty of set photos from night shoots that kinda prove otherwise?

I remember a rumour around the time we got the set pics of the tunnel in LA with the cars blocking it that the lights were out or went out but I've heard nothing about the electricity being out

 

[Nevincer]

Neither have I. Are we sure about this?

 

[gorillanesthsia]

I've never followed any other movie as close as I have Nolan's Batman movies so I don't know but, is there any other movie in which fanboys can just say what they want to be in the film is a hot "rumor" no matter how much like freshly drove-over **** it looks like and then half the internet believes it?

 

[kvz5]

I think the electricity thing is speculation repeated so many times it started being accepted as real info. Like most stuff about this movie.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

Neither have I. Are we sure about this?

Oh no, it was just a spectaculation .

 

[Nevincer]

Oh no, it was just a spectaculation .

Oh, okay.

 

[Anjow1060]

This isn't TDKR, but it's Batman related and I figured as much you all will be happy I passed it on...

(not spam crap - swear on the heart of the Jow)

http://imgur.com/gallery/CPls6

- Jow

 

[shauner111]

I love Refns english films (haven't seen his danish speaking films yet) but im gonna go with Aronofsky. He's the man for the job. No, Warner Bros isn't going to let him do a Year One type thing to the franchise so people don't have to worry, he won't go that extreme. I think that's in the past. But he's a good fit.

My runner up is Refn. Him bringing Cranston over to the Bat franchise (maybe even Gosling dont shoot me) would be a smooth transition. Because of Drive as you know.

The others? its a bit gross. LOL! its just my opinion but thinking of Vaughn taking over would make me really sad. He's good but i can just see him bringing back all those lighter elements that i cant stand with Batman. He would be the first one to bring in Robin i almost guarantee it. Snyder? Nah, let him stay with Supes. Dont want that visual style in Bats either. Im fussy but i want the directors who can do gritty extremely well. Doesnt mean they cant throw in some Arkham Asylum/City elements..its just...if they need to have some gritty scenes i think the director should have some experience in that field.

Come to think of it, Neill Blomkamp or Alfonso Cuaron wouldn't be bad choices either.

 

[Nevincer]

This isn't TDKR, but it's Batman related and I figured as much you all will be happy I passed it on...

(not spam crap - swear on the heart of the Jow)

http://imgur.com/gallery/CPls6

- Jow

Been posted a few pages ago but it's very cool.\

Edit: blegh, why the heck did I type days?

 

[gorillanesthsia]

I'm not going to touch a director debate, but it brings an interesting question...

Where DOES it go after this?

We are the films harshest critics, so when someone makes a new Batfilm, do they have to start at the beginning again in your opinion, or just jump right in?

 

[The_Raganork]

Another origin would be foolish

 

[HighFivingMF]

That's the exact same reason I left for some years.

How many years? 6 years? 10 years?

 

[Anjow1060]

Been posted a few pages ago but it's very cool.\

Edit: blegh, why the heck did I type days?

Ahhh fudgenuts. Kool beans then.

- Jow

 

[Nevincer]

Another origin would be foolish

Why?

 

[Kane52630]

Another origin would be foolish

Yeah the route they need to take imo is a already establish Batman (and have young Robin for once) or have it set in the future with Beyond.

 

[The_Raganork]

How many years? 6 years? 10 years?

8 but was I Raganork8 in between that time or not?

Why?

Well I should amend that. Unless you really feel the need to tell the origin over because you feel you want to to explore that, it's foolish.

We all know his origin. Parents Die, he trains becomes Batman (to cut it down to the most minimal level) To spend a film on this AGAIN would be a waste of time and is what's going to hold films like The amazing Spider-Man back.

It's only necessary if the director feels the origin has something in it not explored before or something he/she specifically wants to go into deeper.

I'm personally not interested in seeing it again

 

[gorillanesthsia]

I agree with Rag to a point. I became real frustrated when I heard they were taking Spider-Man back all the way to the beginning.

Batman is so established I think a story could work and be fine if done correctly without taking it back to the beginning. You can always show flashbacks...nightmares...have characters talk about etc.

Besides, any director doing a Batman origin story would, not only have their hands full, but also be stoned for "copying Nolan".

 

[gorillanesthsia]

Wow, we posted that at the exact same time Rag.

 

[mad-sci]

There's this undercurrent of "suddenly these are legitimate roles" going on that I find laughable. Actors take these roles because they like the characters, and because they are fun and high profile.

In 2010, Michael Fassenbender was given a choice of 2 Marvel villains - Dr Curt Connors in TAS, and Magneto in X-Men 1st Class. At the time, X-men was less well regarded than Spider-man was (Declining quality and micromanagement by 20th Century Fox vs. The Raimi trilogy and Sony's willing to take a risk).

Comparing the villains on paper, Doc Connors would be more 'fun' and have WAY more popularity (at the time). Magneto would have been based on the continuation of an established character by a well regarded actor. Fassenbender took the Magneto role BECAUSE he had been portrayed by McKellen. You could argue that Doc Connors would be a much lesser role because half the screen time is alloted to cgi, but look at Andy Serkis in the LOTR trilogy.

You ARE absolutely correct that great actors took on roles in CBMs for the popularity and high profile gained. However, I would argue that Ledger's Oscar win for TDK showed actors that CBMs could also achieve critical acting acclaim.

 

[Nevincer]

Well I should amend that. Unless you really feel the need to tell the origin over because you feel you want to to explore that, it's foolish.

Oh, my mistake. I thought you meant giving a new universe a seperate origin, not doing another origin-centric story like Begins.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Oh, my mistake. I thought you meant giving a new universe a seperate origin, not doing another origin-centric story like Begins.

They could just take the Burton route and show a 5 minute flashback to his parents getting killed, while the rest of the movie would be with him already as Batman just like B89 treated it. They managed to make 4 Batman movies without a movie dedicated primarily to his origin story and the general audience didn't seem to mind the lack of an origin movie. So you have to think they can go back to that template if they want.

 

[Blue Sugar]

Robin origin!

 

[The Batman]

8 but was I Raganork8 in between that time or not?




Well I should amend that. Unless you really feel the need to tell the origin over because you feel you want to to explore that, it's foolish.

We all know his origin. Parents Die, he trains becomes Batman (to cut it down to the most minimal level) To spend a film on this AGAIN would be a waste of time and is what's going to hold films like The amazing Spider-Man back.

It's only necessary if the director feels the origin has something in it not explored before or something he/she specifically wants to go into deeper.

I'm personally not interested in seeing it again

This is exactly why I'm not as hyped for MoS as most Superman fans.

 

[BatLobster]

Honestly the only way for another series to measure up to the "completeness" this of this version is for a lot of time to pass. An established Batman seems like the only way to go at this point. I'd love to see a Bat-film with an established rogues gallery, where no one villain is marketed and any can pop up at any moment. Any attempt to re-tell the story from the beginning could be trouble (again, unless they actually waited a good ten years to reboot which won't happen). The alternative of bringing us into an established world where things are already in motion definitely has its own benefits and excitement about it though.