The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE)

[Nevincer]

I hope Rachel comes back from the dead

Blasphemy! How could one wish for something so... so dreadful?

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Spoiler

I've very much appreciated Nolans lack of pop music in his movies. It makes them much more timeless IMO.

I guess I've never really noticed that before in his films. Not having actual songs with lyrics and only a score, it does make it seem like his movies take place in a timeless vacuum.

 

[Travesty]

I guess I've never really noticed that before in his films. Not having actual songs with lyrics and only a score, it does make it seem like his movies take place in a timeless vacuum.

For now. Give it 10 years, and everything about it will be dated, except for the score. You almost can't escape a movie being timeless.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I'm curious about the language myself. If TDK can have Gordon call The Joker an s.o.b. and not get language as a rating reason, I can only imagine what's up.

Probably the usage of ***** or something of that sort. Don't expect any f-bombs.

 

[The Batman]

If any kanye west song belong in a batman movie, it would have to be either "Power" or "Dark Fantasy".

 

[Webfoot Hero]

For now. Give it 10 years, and everything about it will be dated, except for the score. You almost can't escape a movie being timeless.

The biggest thing is the style of dress and the everyday technology being used by the characters. Every movie becomes a snapshot of a moment in time when viewed by future generations. As they say, nothing lasts forever.

 

[SpideyFan866]

If any kanye west song belong in a batman movie, it would have to be either "Power" or "Dark Fantasy".

Nah, it would definitely be Runaway.

 

[Yurka]

I guess I've never really noticed that before in his films. Not having actual songs with lyrics and only a score, it does make it seem like his movies take place in a timeless vacuum.

Definitely.

For now. Give it 10 years, and everything about it will be dated, except for the score. You almost can't escape a movie being timeless.

I dont think that's true. The themes and stories will be relevant and interesting for quite a while. I just watched Insomnia a few days ago and that movie is still just as powerful a decade later. I barely recall the score at all.

 

[Nevincer]

Nvm.

 

[The_Raganork]

For now. Give it 10 years, and everything about it will be dated, except for the score. You almost can't escape a movie being timeless.

out of all things, the Techno/Synth/Strings is what you think will be timeless?

 

[Boom]

 

[Nevincer]

It was a troll too far.

 

[Boom]

But surely nobody is stupid enough to believe him.

Right?

 

[Nevincer]

Sure, but I wouldn't want the hype to think I was deliberately wasting their time.

 

[Jedm1991]

Had a dream about me and Morgan Freeman on a sunny beach last night.

 

[Travesty]

I dont think that's true. The themes and stories will be relevant and interesting for quite a while. I just watched Insomnia a few days ago and that movie is still just as powerful a decade later. I barely recall the score at all.

My point is that just because you exclude pop songs form a movie, doesn't automatically make it timeless. Many societal trends will be apparent in most movies through cars, fashion, technology, etc. Those are things that you can't escape for the most part. Most movies that feel "timeless" are mainly sci-fi or period pieces, but even then, after awhile, the technology that made the movie alone will show its age. Just look at Star Wars. It's almost in a timeless setting, other than the fact that some of the technology looks wonky and dated, because that's all they had to use in the '70s.

In 10 years from now, I can guarantee you that these bat-flicks will show their age. It's inevitable.

 

[Travesty]

out of all things, the Techno/Synth/Strings is what you think will be timeless?

Yes. Most movie scores can't be put into a certain period of time, because it's mainly orchestrated/classical music. If you listen to Elfman's B89 score, it can still work in most movies if you fit it properly. But if you put in a 80's pop song in a new movie from 2012, then yes, it'll feel out of place.

I don't see how this is so hard to comprehend?

 

[Miranda Fox]

Would that really be such a gray area? It's not like Giles had much of a choice--Ben basically gave in to Glory after gaining Buffy's trust, what's to say he wouldn't have done it again, even if Glory didn't somehow find a way to control him?

I suppose it depends on how you look at it. If you think murder is wrong, regardless of the reason, then that was the wrong thing to do. Personally, I think it was the right decision for exactly the reason you stated, but I think what Giles said is important in regards to their views: she's a hero, you see. She's not like us.

I could see a similar situation arising where Batman is left with the choice of killing Bane, or letting him live and risk him returning some day and choosing the latter. Enter Catwoman who doesn't have such reservations.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Had a dream about me and Morgan Freeman on a sunny beach last night.

This comment = blue balls. You can't just leave it there. :

 

[Jedm1991]

This comment = blue balls. You can't just leave it there. :

We had speedo's on and was playing in the sea, thats all i remember, i feel weird right now

 

[vaden78]

God, I want a suit that pumps narcotics into me all the time.

This.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I proudly don't know any Kanye West songs to give suggestions...

 

[Nevincer]

I proudly don't know any Kanye West songs to give suggestions...

t:

 

[The_Raganork]

Yes. Most movie scores can't be put into a certain period of time, because it's mainly orchestrated/classical music. If you listen to Elfman's B89 score, it can still work in most movies if you fit it properly. But if you put in a 80's pop song in a new movie from 2012, then yes, it'll feel out of place.

I don't see how this is so hard to comprehend?

I thought you were talking specifically about these films. While it uses orchestra it still has a good amount of synth/Techno influence.

That will always be dated.

 

[Boom]

Kanye West pales in comparison to the awfulness that is Bruno Mars.