The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 105

[BatLobster]

don't think a dry eye in the place

This jives with what "Fett"'s source relayed.

If this is indeed true, this is going to bode very well for overall critical response. Remember these are critics. Usually a pretty stuffy bunch.

 

[Joker594]

There are screenings happening, it is plausible that some reviews will leak out. And this one seems to match what we've been hearing...that TDKR is a terrific film.

True, but I just don't see a person - being privileged as they are to see an early press screening of the film - saying, "Wow that was such a terrific movie, I just have to get the word out! Where shall I go? Hmmm. . .Oh I know! The message boards of IMDB!"

 

[Yawsbass]

Screenings , awesome! are they under embargo thing?

Most likely. Even "lesser" films have embargoes imposed upon them, so there's no way this one wouldn't.

 

[Street Vendor]

Screenings , awesome! are they under embargo thing?

Yeah, no official reviews for at least a week. But I'm sure we'll be hearing little snippets all over the web.

 

[Deserana]

Thought I'd post it again so its at the top of a page -

The Gotham Stock Exchange scene is brilliant. It is done in the same style as the party crashing scene with the Joker, there is that same eery silence from the gatecrashing scene as Bane walks in and takes hold of the floor. That's all I can say, film is great. I've got a gag on me.

Tom Hardy steals the show as Bane, Bane is very charismatic, comes across as an intellectual snob which clashes with his appearance but I don't think he'll get a Best Supporting Actor Oscar nod as his character isn't as iconic as Ledger's Joker but he really, really should. When Hardy comes onto the screen, you cannot take your eyes off of him. He/Bane has a marvelous screen presence. Even some of the information I posted in the Bane thread is not entirely accurate after seeing the movie.

There was a standing ovation after the film finished and I don't think a dry eye in the place either.

If I had to say anything now, I don't think it would be fair as I am still gushing over the movie but I do think it's better than The Dark Knight for a couple of reasons, Batman/Bruce feels more fleshed out and has a complete arc to end his story and he isn't just playing second fiddle to the villain like he was in The Dark Knight plus the story has an epic feel to it especially when the "revolution" kicks off. Hathaway's performance felt like a throwback to the those actresses of Hollywood's golden years and she'll probably be the one to get Academy recognition.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

IMDB? Hmmm....at this point, I'll believe anything(well, almost anything).

 

[Tonymosello]

True, but I just don't see a person - being privileged as they are to see an early press screening of the film - saying, "Wow that was such a terrific movie, I just have to get the word out! Where shall I go? Hmmm. . .Oh I know! The message boards of IMDB!"

I agree, but if someone is an occasional moviegoer, he may not know of a site as great as SuperHeroHype

 

[BestGirl]

I hope that guy's telling the truth but there's nothing in that review that couldn't be invented from watching the trailers/spots and reading rumors on the boards like this one.

 

[Street Vendor]

True, but I just don't see a person - being privileged as they are to see an early press screening of the film - saying, "Wow that was such a terrific movie, I just have to get the word out! Where shall I go? Hmmm. . .Oh I know! The message boards of IMDB!"

We know IMDB is a joke, but some people get a lot of info there and may not know about places like the Hype.

 

[Deserana]

He also posted -

We had to hand in all our electronic devices (which we collected at the end) and we signed non-disclosure agreements.

 

[kvz5]

Putting my fangirl cap aside for my logical cap, that review is contradicting so while I like what it said, I don't buy it. Unless the reviewer is just not good with writing.

 

[Joker594]

I agree, but if someone is an occasional moviegoer, he may not know of a site as great as SuperHeroHype

Haha damn right

 

[Deserana]

Annnnnnd finally he said that these spoilers - http://nukethefridge.com/2012/06/04/the-dark-knight-rises-plot-andspoilers-revealed/

Were false.

 

[Street Vendor]

I'm pretty sure IMDB had some pretty accurate early reviews of TDK(I found out Rachel's fate there, and also how Harvey becomes Two Face; two spoilers I wish I didn't read!).

 

[Deserana]

Putting my fangirl cap aside for my logical cap, that review is contradicting so while I like what it said, I don't buy it. Unless the reviewer is just not good with writing.

What is contradictive? Surely only the Gotham exchange bit could be false.

 

[Boom]

Does anyone have the YouTube video of the score ripped from the FireRises game?

 

[Cassandra Cain]

A standing ovation and not a dry eye in the room. Oh...no...

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Does anyone have the YouTube video of the score ripped from the FireRises game?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o21ndWNvLk

 

[kvz5]

What is contradictive? Surely only the Gotham exchange bit could be false.

He/she said that Bane "steals the show" but then proceeds to say that Bruce "didn't play second fiddle to the villain like in TDK" and then he said that Anne's Catwoman will most likely get the Oscar recognition. How can someone who stole the show not be the one who gets Oscar recognition? It's just the way the descriptions are worded. No big deal. The person might've just struggled with trying to describe his feelings.

 

[BatLobster]

Remember, tears don't necessarily mean it's a sad ending. This film is going to be a hell of a journey, however we end up landing when it's all said and done is bound to be very emotional.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

He/she said that Bane "steals the show" but then proceeds to say that Bruce "didn't play second fiddle to the villain like in TDK" and then he said that Anne's Catwoman will most likely get the Oscar recognition. How can someone who stole the show not be the one who gets Oscar recognition? It's just the way the descriptions are worded. No big deal. The person might've just struggled with trying to describe his feelings.

That's not contradictory. Perhaps Nolan struck a balance.

 

[craigdbfan]

Annnnnnd finally he said that these spoilers - http://nukethefridge.com/2012/06/04/the-dark-knight-rises-plot-andspoilers-revealed/

Were false.

Then he's lying. While a good deal of what nukethefridge sounds dubious the one part that is true is that Bane was part of the LoS and kicked out by Ra's.

That was confirmed through one of those official fact booklets or whatever.

 

[kvz5]

Remember, tears don't necessarily mean it's a sad ending. This film is going to be a hell of a journey, however we end up landing when it's all said and done is bound to be very emotional.

TBH I think I'll end up crying regardless if it's sad or not. It's just the idea that it's actually over.

 

[The Batman]

Well, Batman is supposed to be monthly ongoing story with no end in sight, with the possible exception of old man Bruce tutoring some young rapscallion in a jetpack future. And Catwoman and Batman have been married before in the comics; a theme that appears to be repeated in the New 52. Lots of writers have focused on the idea of Batman and Catwoman having a fairly deep and possibly finalized relationship beyond the cowl and mask. It's also all but confirmed that they will be aware of each other's secret identities well before the final battle, one of the hallmarks of a more serious Bat/Cat relationship (and one of the easiest ways to tell the new comic Catwoman has a more shallow relationship with Batman. One of the more...subtle clues.)

Most people who cite Batman and Catwoman's marriage fail to explain that their marriage only existed in an alternate universe which was a pastiche of the Golden Age universe, where Selina was the only credible love interest Batman had. It was safe to marry Earth 2 Batman, he wasn't the "main" Batman anyway.

Also, where did you get the idea that Bruce and Selina were married or close to marriage in the New 52 Verse? If anything, its the opposite. Like you mentioned, Its back to square one where Selina dosent even know Batman's identity, with Bats and Cats being pretty much friends with benefits. Not only that, in another Batbook Bruce was in a relationship with someone else, while flirting with a rich girl in another book.

While Bruce and Selina's relationship has been examined, it always comes down to the fact that Bruce can't trust Selina. Writers like Grant Morrison understand that their relationship is better when its marked with tension. Batman and Catwoman really aren't supposed to end up together, and its good that most creators seem to understand that.

 

[BatLobster]

Yeah, plus Bale/Bruce can't technically steal the show, when it's his show to be stolen.