The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - Part 18

[Visceral]

Its like the New Zealand All Blacks, but the All Blacks don't really kill people

 

[outsider101487]

My apologies for any derailing of current discussion, if this is the wrong thread, and if this has been discussed ad nauseum. I see this as "general speculation" and SPOILER-ish speculation, so I thought it'd go best right here. Also, as this is page 32 of Part 18, I hope I'm excused from scouring every single past post. I'm an extremely infrequent visitor, so twice the apologies.

On to speculation:

Is it possible that Bane comes to Gotham to take Ra's al Ghul's body back to the Lazarus Pit? Meaning in the duration of TDK, Bane and/or The League of Shadows has come to Gotham and returned to... Morocco, I guess, with the body. As the Joker rises and falls, the League watches and waits, and when Batman "wins," they again move to take action.

Hans Zimmer has just called for people to join "the chant" for the film's audio mix. Check the site if you haven't already -- http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction. Anyway, someone translated the supposedly Moroccan chant as "he rises, he rises." Could this be the rising of Ra's from the Pit? While he heals, he instructs Bane to prepare Gotham's destruction before his return in the end.

Is this anything remotely new, or am I the beater of a long dead horse?

 

[Jedm1991]

My apologies for any derailing of current discussion, if this is the wrong thread, and if this has been discussed ad nauseum. I see this as "general speculation" and SPOILER-ish speculation, so I thought it'd go best right here. Also, as this is page 32 of Part 18, I hope I'm excused from scouring every single past post. I'm an extremely infrequent visitor, so twice the apologies.

On to speculation:

Is it possible that Bane comes to Gotham to take Ra's al Ghul's body back to the Lazarus Pit? Meaning in the duration of TDK, Bane and/or The League of Shadows has come to Gotham and returned to... Morocco, I guess, with the body. As the Joker rises and falls, the League watches and waits, and when Batman "wins," they again move to take action.

Hans Zimmer has just called for people to join "the chant" for the film's audio mix. Check the site if you haven't already -- http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction. Anyway, someone translated the supposedly Moroccan chant as "he rises, he rises." Could this be the rising of Ra's from the Pit? While he heals, he instructs Bane to prepare Gotham's destruction before his return in the end.

Is this anything remotely new, or am I the beater of a long dead horse?

Lazarus pit

 

[ThePhantasm]

Is it possible that Bane comes to Gotham to take Ra's al Ghul's body back to the Lazarus Pit?

Unless Ras jumped out the train at the last minute and survived, there ain't gonna be enough body to throw in that pit.

 

[Gotham]

depends where your friend if working.

Yeah... he's on set. He sees everything. Not to tease anyone about not being able to give information, but it's so hard not to call him and beg for the details.

 

[enquencle]

Well, I still hear spanish in the end, I hear "pasala", wich translates to pass it, and that makes no sense

But this is just so cool. Now I see why they said they would try a different approach on marketing with this one.

 

[spider_rob]

Lazarus pit

Omigod... Something from the comics... What a terrible thought to include it in the movies!

 

[TangerineKnight]

Omigod... Something from the comics... What a terrible thought to include it in the movies!

Uh....you're kidding right?

Maybe we should put Harry Potter in TDKR as well....

 

[Travesty]

Uh....you're kidding right?

Maybe we should put Harry Potter in TDKR as well....

Because Harry Potter was in the Batman comics?

 

[ChocheTheHero]

About the chant... We have to recreate that chant? Or we have to create our chant using the same music template? Thanks!

 

[floreairfoot]

Uh....you're kidding right?

Maybe we should put Harry Potter in TDKR as well....

 

[Jedm1991]

Wonder who would win in a hand-to-hand fight, Jackie or Batman...

 

[Travesty]

Wonder who would win in a hand-to-hand fight, Jackie or Batman...

Harry Potter.

 

[regwec]

I love you, Trav, and I want you to be godfather to my children.

 

[regwec]

Uh....you're kidding right?

Maybe we should put Harry Potter in TDKR as well....

I hope that they reboot Harry Potter with Nolan as director and a gritty realistic take on everything. Hogwarts can just be a caravan on a travelers' site in Neasden, and instead of a wand, Harry can have a Biro.

Voldemort can just be a night watchman who is always angry because he has irritable bowel syndrome.

If he stops giving a damn, Nolan can just camp things up by wokring in a reference to Batman.

Let's make all fiction realistic. And then make reality more realistic, too.

 

[floreairfoot]

I hope that they reboot Harry Potter with Nolan as director and a gritty realistic take on everything. Hogwarts can just be a caravan on a travelers' site in Neasden, and instead of a wand, Harry can have a Biro.

 

[Boom]

This page is full of win.

 

[Deadpool7]

nah I hear the words...

Deshi and Basara.

Deshi means disciple.

Basara
basara (hiragana ばさら)

1. a term in Japanese aesthetics associated with the challenge of traditional ideals during the Muromachi period

During the Muromachi period a Shogun overthrew the Emperor and set up a rule after a civil war.

So roughly translated "a disciple of a shogun who is seeking to overthrow the status quo through a civil war"?

(yeah I'm probably way out of line and connecting dots that may not be there.)

interesting nonetheless.

Likewise, I thought it was Deshi Pasha:

A pasha was a high ranking official or military officer within the framework of the Ottoman Empire, a massive empire which endured for over 600 years in various forms. The word is still heard as an honorific in some regions which used to be part of the Ottoman Empire, especially in Egypt and Turkey, although it holds no formal meaning anymore. Students of Ottoman history may also be familiar with the use of “Pasha” as an honorific, much like the English word “Lord.”
At one point in history, the Ottoman Empire controlled a huge swath of the Middle East, Northern Africa, and parts of Southern Europe. The huge empire required a complex bureaucracy to function smoothly, and pashas were only a small part of the complex political structure of the Ottoman Empire. The First World War spelled the end of the Ottoman Empire, as it was partitioned by treaty agreement at the conclusion of hostilities.
Originally, a pasha was a high ranking military officer. The Sultan was the only person who could bestow this title, and it was reserved for particularly distinguished members of the military. Within the Ottoman ranking system, a pasha was above a bey or an agha, but below a vizier. The rank of pasha entitled the bearer to certain privileges in his coat of arms and ceremonial regalia, much as varying ranks in the English Peerage come with special ornaments and decorations.
Over time, the Sultanate began offering the rank of pasha to high ranking regional officials, or to members of the court it wished to honor. Civil officials might be addressed as “Pasha” by the populations they supervised as a mark of respect, even if they didn't hold that rank. Unlike the West, the Ottoman Empire did not have a tradition of inherited nobility; people had to earn their ranks with their accomplishments, and different honorifics were used to refer to the children of people with rank.
When the Ottoman Empire dissolved in 1922, various social reforms led to the ultimate abolishment of “Pasha” as an official title by 1934. However, many respectful Turkish citizens continued to use the term, and it endures among older Turkish people. Egypt continued to have pashas until 1953, although they were considerably less powerful than they once were.

 

[Nevincer]

Let's make all fiction realistic. And then make reality more realistic, too.

What would these boards be without you, reg?

 

[Victarion]

What would these boards be without you, reg?

Reading his posts, I couldn't plausibly answer that.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I think the chant means gibberish in Latin.

 

[Boom]

The chanting is actually me.

Me and Hans got together one night and split a sixer of Mike's Hard Lemonade. Needless to say, I don't remember much of that night...

Going by what he told me the next day, apparently he thought it'd be funny to record me shouting incoherent nonsense during my black-out state. When he told me he had incorporated it into the score, I took a swing out him, missed, and stormed out of his house in a rage. I have cut all ties with him since then. It's so embarrassing.

**** Hans Zimmer .

 

[Mako]

The chanting is actually me.

Me and Hans got together one night and split a sixer of Mike's Hard Lemonade. Needless to say, I don't remember much of that night...

Going by what he told me the next day, apparently he thought it'd be funny to record me shouting incoherent nonsense during my black-out state.

Makes sense to me.

 

[batbax]

Reading his posts, I couldn't plausibly answer that.

Some queries are best left without an answer.

 

[Bat-Mite]

My apologies for any derailing of current discussion, if this is the wrong thread, and if this has been discussed ad nauseum. I see this as "general speculation" and SPOILER-ish speculation, so I thought it'd go best right here. Also, as this is page 32 of Part 18, I hope I'm excused from scouring every single past post. I'm an extremely infrequent visitor, so twice the apologies.

On to speculation:

Is it possible that Bane comes to Gotham to take Ra's al Ghul's body back to the Lazarus Pit? Meaning in the duration of TDK, Bane and/or The League of Shadows has come to Gotham and returned to... Morocco, I guess, with the body. As the Joker rises and falls, the League watches and waits, and when Batman "wins," they again move to take action.

Hans Zimmer has just called for people to join "the chant" for the film's audio mix. Check the site if you haven't already -- http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction. Anyway, someone translated the supposedly Moroccan chant as "he rises, he rises." Could this be the rising of Ra's from the Pit? While he heals, he instructs Bane to prepare Gotham's destruction before his return in the end.

Is this anything remotely new, or am I the beater of a long dead horse?

Actually, all that survived of Ra's was his head, but since they still have the complete corpse of the decoy Ra's, they chop the decoy Ra's' head off and force Lucius Fox to sew the new head on at gunpoint, and they also make him invent the Lazarus Pit, thus explaining Ra's al Ghul's resurrection in a realistic and gritty way.