The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[Nevincer]

if Wally Pfister was not so young i would belive this is from TDKR

Damn it! My plan nearly worked...

 

[dark_b]

i got very happy that they filmed this for TDKR. it would be great.

 

[Pagan]

a big and realistic theory is that Batman defeats Bane inside the city hall and than Miranda Tate shows up as a villain. so maybe Miranda Tate is now the leaeder since Bane is defeated? it would explain why Bane's number 1 henchman comes out without Bane but walks next to Miranda.

we dont want it to happen but they didnt film Bane walking into one of the 3 tumblers.

yeah we don't see Bane after he was on the floor of City Hall.

 

[Sharkboy]

I don't see what's wrong with that. Batman has to defeat Bane sometime.

 

[Pagan]

Bane and Batman fight on the stairs and walk inside. something happens inside. catwoman on the batppod drives out of the city hall down the stairs. the police look up and cheer. than they filmed Miranda Tate coming out with Bane's number one guy. after all of this the chase begin. batpod/3 tumblers/truck/batwing. they didnt film Bane walking outside in the tumbler.

you know what it means t:

I think you may have the sequence of events out of order.
Batman leaves after Talia.

What I believe is happening is that Bane is having the "bomb" moved to where it's supposed to go off while the fight is going on. While he ,Talia Bats and Catwoman are fighting inside he reveals to Batman that he's too late, that he's already set things into motion and that the riot/assault was mostly a distraction. Catwoman overhears the conversation and Bats tells her to take the Batpod and see if she can locate/stop them while he takes care of Bane and Talia. He defeats Bane but somehow Talia gets away and takes off after Catwoman and the bomb truck. (There were reports she stabs him with a knife and while bleeding out he jumps into the Batwing and takes off to catch up to the chase)

Somehow Talia ends up driving the bomb truck when it goes into the hole in the street and crashes onto the lower street. This is where Bats takes the bomb out of the truck and flies it off in the wing to hopefully get some distance between it and the city before it goes off.

 

[Two-Face]

Wait, this is from TDKR?

 

[mackblack01]

Wait, this is from TDKR?

if Wally Pfister was not so young i would belive this is from TDKR

 

[Two-Face]

That's great! It will be great BB scenes from TDKR.

 

[dark_b]

I think you may have the sequence of events out of order.
Batman leaves after Talia.

What I believe is happening is that Bane is having the "bomb" moved to where it's supposed to go off while the fight is going on. While he ,Talia Bats and Catwoman are fighting inside he reveals to Batman that he's too late, that he's already set things into motion and that the riot/assault was mostly a distraction. Catwoman overhears the conversation and Bats tells her to take the Batpod and see if she can locate/stop them while he takes care of Bane and Talia. He defeats Bane but somehow Talia gets away and takes off after Catwoman and the bomb truck. (There were reports she stabs him with a knife and while bleeding out he jumps into the Batwing and takes off to catch up to the chase)

Somehow Talia ends up driving the bomb truck when it goes into the hole in the street and crashes onto the lower street. This is where Bats takes the bomb out of the truck and flies it off in the wing to hopefully get some distance between it and the city before it goes off.

yes i am not sure about my order.
when Talia comes out everyone is dead on the stairs.

i dont know the structure of the third act. but in the prologue and Trailer 2 we see Bane is a villain with a BIG vision and a big masterplan. if he is defeated inside and than Miranda take's over it would cheapen him a bit. i am hoping for the best.

 

[KnightInBlack]

I find it interesting how much Bane and Wayne/Batman have in common. Specifically their pain. Bane's is more physical, constant, ever present. Something he can never escape. He wears a mask to deal with the pain, but in a more medicinal sense. Bane's pain is his greatest weakness. The same is true for Wayne, but on a deeper emotional and psyche level. Bane can never escape his pain, but can the same be said for Bruce? I think pain and healing will be a major theme for TDKR. Well, the pain aspect has always been there in BB and TDK. But if Bruce must heal his body after Bane breaks him why can't he also heal his soul. Face his demons head on for the first time. After all, if pain is Bane's greatest weakness, can't the same be said of Bruce? I think if he stands a chance of coming back to defeat Bane he must first heal his mind, body and soul.

 

[The_Raganork]

I think you may have the sequence of events out of order.
Batman leaves after Talia.

What I believe is happening is that Bane is having the "bomb" moved to where it's supposed to go off while the fight is going on. While he ,Talia Bats and Catwoman are fighting inside he reveals to Batman that he's too late, that he's already set things into motion and that the riot/assault was mostly a distraction. Catwoman overhears the conversation and Bats tells her to take the Batpod and see if she can locate/stop them while he takes care of Bane and Talia. He defeats Bane but somehow Talia gets away and takes off after Catwoman and the bomb truck. (There were reports she stabs him with a knife and while bleeding out he jumps into the Batwing and takes off to catch up to the chase)

Somehow Talia ends up driving the bomb truck when it goes into the hole in the street and crashes onto the lower street. This is where Bats takes the bomb out of the truck and flies it off in the wing to hopefully get some distance between it and the city before it goes off.

I like your idea but so you can modify it I'm going to point out some things.

Catwoman leaves in pursuit of the tumblers, the HEMTT truck appears later.

Batman shows no signs of being injured when he meets up with Catwoman and Gordon

Tate is in the passenger seat when the truck crashes.

In NYC the Bomb and Batprawn were filmed together, with no HEMTT truck with the City in the background which can be seen here

Spoiler

The shot was probably just setting up a CGI shot because of all the stuff going on behind it but, a few things to note. The Cars were sprinkled with "snow" and the bomb was encircled with a layer of 'snow' almost as if it was embedded there. The question is: How did it get off the truck into the street.

 

[Fabian]

I find it interesting how much Bane and Wayne/Batman have in common. Specifically their pain. Bane's is more physical, constant, ever present. Something he can never escape. He wears a mask to deal with the pain, but in a more medicinal sense. Bane's pain is his greatest weakness. The same is true for Wayne, but on a deeper emotional and psyche level. Bane can never escape his pain, but can the same be said for Bruce? I think pain and healing will be a major theme for TDKR. Well, the pain aspect has always been there in BB and TDK. But if Bruce must heal his body after Bane breaks him why can't he also heal his soul. Face his demons head on for the first time. After all, if pain is Bane's greatest weakness, can't the same be said of Bruce? I think if he stands a chance of coming back to defeat Bane he must first heal his mind, body and soul.

Bane is what Batman could have been if he followed Ra's ideals.

 

[Fabian]

yeah we don't see Bane after he was on the floor of City Hall.

is Bane's mask broken or not?

 

[The_Raganork]

Bane is what Batman could have been if he followed Ra's ideals.

Its got to be more than that because Ra's is what Batman could have been if he followed Ra's ideals.

 

[Masamune]

It might just be me, but does anyone else get a batman returns vibe from this pic?

 

[croboy82]

I'm really confused though. If Tate leaves, we see her crash (and she probably dies) and Bane is already defeated, then the movie is ending? So THIS is the last, big fight and not only the third act.

Plus didn't Catwoman say to Batman he should get him in that one spy video, or did she say get it?

him = bane
it = bomb

 

[The_Raganork]

I still don't get how anyone heard ANYTHING in that video.

 

[croboy82]

I didn't hear it either haha, I just read that here all the time.

 

[uniqueweasel]

is Bane's mask broken or not?

It looks that way, and if you look in the photos section the picture below that one, it looks as though Bane is lying down in the background

 

[ggghhh]

I still don't get how anyone heard ANYTHING in that video.

I *thought* I heard lots of things, but I wouldn't swear by any of them.

 

[The_Raganork]

I believe you ggghhh your senses are absolutely amazing.

 

[jonnywhc]

Sorry if this is the 2nd time iv posted this, I tried earlier but when I hit post it logged me out lol.

Technical question for those who know about aspect ratios. Watched MI4 and was very impressed with the pure size of the non-IMAX shots, damn near filled the screen & transition to and from the standard to IMAX quality/size was smooth. And id go as far as to say not many watching would have noticed much.

But with the prologe the jump between the Gordon speech and Bane scene was massive, with a very noticeable jump in size. Did abit of digging and found the aspect ratio of the non-imax stuff in MI was 2.35:1. Found it strange how Nolan says he loves the size of IMAX but then opts for huge black bars for most of the film. I presume it was this was for TDK too, as my bluray jumps noticeably. Did further digging and found someone saying "Nolan loves anamorphic 35mm as much as he loves IMAX". Something doesn't quiet make sence to me, why choose the black bars? I'm pretty sure its not a money issue. Unless he wants a bigger impact when the IMAX stuff pops up?

 

[The_Raganork]

Sorry if this is the 2nd time iv posted this, I tried earlier but when I hit post it logged me out lol.

Technical question for those who know about aspect ratios. Watched MI4 and was very impressed with the pure size of the non-IMAX shots, damn near filled the screen & transition to and from the standard to IMAX quality/size was smooth. And id go as far as to say not many watching would have noticed much.

But with the prologe the jump between the Gordon speech and Bane scene was massive, with a very noticeable jump in size. Did abit of digging and found the aspect ratio of the non-imax stuff in MI was 2.35:1. Found it strange how Nolan says he loves the size of IMAX but then opts for huge black bars for most of the film. I presume it was this was for TDK too, as my bluray jumps noticeably. Did further digging and found someone saying "Nolan loves anamorphic 35mm as much as he loves IMAX". Something doesn't quiet make sence to me, why choose the black bars? I'm pretty sure its not a money issue. Unless he wants a bigger impact when the IMAX stuff pops up?

you answered your own question

 

[ggghhh]

I believe you ggghhh your senses are absolutely amazing.

It's 'the instrument of your demise', right?


I couldn't hear what Catwoman said, I did think I heard Gordon calling Batman 'Bruce', but I'm sure I'm imagining it.

 

[The_Raganork]

O Really?