The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[KalMart]

I shouldn't have to put things I like aside to enjoy something. If I don't prefer something over something else, I will naturally like the thing I prefer more. That's that.

It's like religion....or politics....

 

[The_Raganork]

Ooh, the victim of human rights deprivation is back.

took the words right out of my mouth.

I decided to take up this debate with The Dragonator to show he/she has Zero merit in the things he/she says and just says things, not for discussion but to be seen.

I think you all have seen that, even the people who agree with his/her opinion.

There no substance behind the post; just a constant screaming about things he/she likes or doesn't like just so people can know.

 

[craigdbfan]

I don't like Batman in the daytime for movies. Period. That's the end of this discussion. If you like it, fine, but I don't. I have a right to not like it, so just deal with it.

 

[BrollySupersj]

I don't like Batman in the daytime for movies. Period. That's the end of this discussion. If you like it, fine, but I don't. I have a right to not like it, so just deal with it.

I don't know man, I like Batman in night just like you. But what you're saying sounds a bit like elitism. That Batman can't be in the daylight and never should, regardless of what style the film is. That's being a little narrow minded. It's as I and others have said, Batman is in the daylight in TDKR because there is a situation that calls for it. Which I think is understandable.

 

[Gianakin_]

Good way of looking at it, and you may be spot on. Its a shame, i can see why Warners chose shumacher from his past movies, yet what he gave us was totally different. But i suppose Warners need to take alot of the blame for what we got.

Exactly. Raimi wanted to direct BF, but if I was a WB exec, I'd choose Joel with my eyes closed. Thing is, there would be another WB exec who'd force some things upon Joel, and then another who would let Joel do some things he shouldn't be doing (every director brings bad ideas to the table), etc etc.

and Joel fought (not much) for B&R to be BY1. when he saw he couldn't win, he went for the cash (doesn't honor him, but at least he admitted and apologised for it).

 

[Yurka]

You have nothing to worry about, then.

I wouldn't be a fan, either.

Right my point wasn't to attack your point but to show The Dragonator that, while you maintain your preference you can understand some things against your preference make sense and can be good.

even if you said right now: "I still like the idea of it though" I couldn't argue with you because you understand you're not beyond being wrong or being surprised.

I was more explaining my philosophy on the matter to the other two posters who responded to me, I know you understand me Rag

 

[The_Raganork]

I don't like it either, but you must like me, see the logical point of it. storywise?



I kinda feel i'm feeding the troll now.

You are, don't allow him/her to backpeddle. Cause he/she will come back and say "I understand how its logical" after calling it stupid for the last hour.

 

[Brother Jack]

I agree with you all and I added in that Nolan is doing it for a reason, so even Batman isn't fully comfortable doing it. I have no problem with it if it factors into the story, as in Batman "rallying the troops", but if it's just Batman operating in daylight for the sake of being in daylight, then I am not a fan.

I'm sure it will be done for a very specific reason. And I'm also sure that Batman will be operating at night quite a bit as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the stuff during the day all takes place towards the end of the film. Plus if the shots in the trailer are anything to go by, the lighting will be somewhat cloudy and gray.

Interestingly, while TDK did demystify Batman I thought him framing himself at the end was a way to let him return to the shadows so-to-speak and be something more dangerous and unknown. That might carry over in TDKR, at least initially.

 

[Gianakin_]

Fair enough.

I bet come July 2012, that opinion will have altered drastically.

Don't bet too much, you'll probably lose it.

 

[Sharkboy]

I welcome things being beyond my preference, if i had things that were always my preference, i would never get new ones...my opinion isn't so rigid that i go into things that if they don't meet MY idea...then they automatically have no chance to be good to me. You don't go to a foreign country and order burger and fries because you know you prefer that food to the local food you've never properly tried before.

mmmm food.

 

[Gianakin_]

Interestingly, while TDK did demystify Batman I thought him framing himself at the end was a way to let him return to the shadows so-to-speak and be something more dangerous and unknown. That might carry over in TDKR, at least initially.

Fo sho. People will be afraid of him again, albeit for different reasons.

 

[Blue Sugar]

I love the symbolism of The Dark Knight coming out in daytime. Plus it looks damn cool.

 

[KalMart]

The Legend Ends, yo?

 

[BobJM]

The whole "demystification" argument is bunk anyway, isn't it?

Gotham thinks Batman killed 5 people, 2 of them cops. To them, he's broken his rule and he's scary as **** now.

 

[Sharkboy]

Exactly.

 

[TheDragonator]

I don't know , I like in night just like you. But what you're saying a bit like elitism. That can't be in the daylight and never should, regardless of what style the film is. That's being a little narrow minded. It's as I and others have said, Batman is in the daylight in TDKR because there is a situation that calls for it. Which I think is understandable.

If the situation calls for it, whatever. But until I get actual confirmation that it does, I'm free to assume it doesn't.

 

[BobJM]

Interestingly, while TDK did demystify Batman I thought him framing himself at the end was a way to let him return to the shadows so-to-speak and be something more dangerous and unknown. That might carry over in TDKR, at least initially.

exactly

 

[Travesty]

Jingle Bells, Batman smells(especially in daylight)
Robin laid an egg.
The Batmobile lost a wheel
and the Joker got away (Hey!)

Merry Christmas to all!
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[The_Raganork]

took the words right out of my mouth.

I decided to take up this debate with The Dragonator to show he/she has Zero merit in the things he/she says and just says things, not for discussion but to be seen.

I think you all have seen that, even the people who agree with his/her opinion.

There no substance behind the post; just a constant screaming about things he/she likes or doesn't like just so people can know.

You are, don't allow him/her to backpeddle. Cause he/she will come back and say "I understand how its logical" after calling it stupid for the last hour.

If the situation calls for it, whatever. But until I get actual confirmation that it does, I'm free to assume it doesn't.

see?

 

[KalMart]

The whole "demystification" argument is bunk anyway, isn't it?

Gotham thinks Batman killed 5 people, 2 of them cops. To them, he's broken his rule and he's scary as **** now.

More like he's a common criminal...but it'll be this new exceptional villain that will prove Batman to be an exceptional hero again...and they'll understand the truth once and for all...hence the demystification....


....um....yeah....

 

[Yurka]

I'm sure it will be done for a very specific reason. And I'm also sure that Batman will be operating at night quite a bit as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the stuff during the day all takes place towards the end of the film. Plus if the shots in the trailer are anything to go by, the lighting will be somewhat cloudy and gray.

Interestingly, while TDK did demystify Batman I thought him framing himself at the end was a way to let him return to the shadows so-to-speak and be something more dangerous and unknown. That might carry over in TDKR, at least initially.

The whole "demystification" argument is bunk anyway, isn't it?

Gotham thinks Batman killed 5 people, 2 of them cops. To them, he's broken his rule and he's scary as **** now.

Very true points. I'm very curious how Batman will be perceived by the criminals in the beginning of TDKR.

 

[TheDragonator]

Oh please, I'm saying there's no real reason, IMO, to assume it will work.

Point is, conversation is over.

 

[Boom]

If the situation calls for it, whatever. But until I get actual confirmation that it does, I'm free to assume it doesn't.

...............................

Batman, a character who has operated strictly at night up to this point, finally comes out in the daytime, and you assume it's NOT because the situation calls for it?

I have no words. You really are just assuming the worst for the sake of it. Where in God's name is the logic in that line of thinking ?

 

[craigdbfan]

If the situation calls for it, whatever. But until I get actual confirmation that it does, I'm free to assume it doesn't.

Um what confirmation...?

Bane enacts his plan during the day so Batman comes out during the day. Confirmed.

 

[Gianakin_]

More like he's a common criminal...but it'l be this new exceptional villain that will prove Batman to be an exceptional hero again...and they'll understand the truth once and for all...hence the demystification....

....um....yeah....

What intrigues me is that after Bane reveals the truth about Dent's murders... what will the citizens think of him? "Oh, he didn't kill... but he's been playing us for the last 8 years!"

Batman in TDKR will be like the BR Penguin!