The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 141

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[CConn]

What kind of processor do you need to render in 8K?

 

[J.Howlett]

What kind of processor do you need to render in 8K?

Heck if I know. They don't say in the article. Still, rather impressive.

 

[Reek]

 

[Cunning Stunts]

What kind of processor do you need to render in 8K?

Generally, movies and video games are rendered at "render farms".

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I feel very nostalgic about the hype for this film. I actually kind of miss the times before we saw the film. I miss the anticipation. I miss the speculation and theories. The trolls and the insiders. It was so much fan. I never had this much fun following a movie. Hell of a ride, and I miss it dearly.

At least the movie is almost out on Blu Ray(Wow, can you believe that?!)

 

[CConn]

Generally, movies and video games are rendered at "render farms".

Oh, I know. But I've never actually seen what the actual computing power translates to.

 

[joker1524]

I feel very nostalgic about the hype for this film. I actually kind of miss the times before we saw the film. I miss the anticipation. I miss the speculation and theories. The trolls and the insiders. It was so much fan. I never had this much fun following a movie. Hell of a ride, and I miss it dearly.

At least the movie is almost out on Blu Ray(Wow, can you believe that?!)

It actually makes me feel very sad that it's all over... When tdk ended in had excitement and anticipation for where the story will head to next.... Tdkr... While I loved the ending... I just felt sad to know that it's really over now.... It was an amazing ride to follow these films.... Im glad I was alive to experience this trilogy.

 

[Kane52630]

The opening page of the article has a video. It's the Dark Knight Trilogy trailer that was posted on youtube leading up to the release of Rises. If I'm not mistaken, it's fan made right?

This one?
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or this?
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[J.Howlett]

^The second one.

 

[Street Vendor]

I feel very nostalgic about the hype for this film. I actually kind of miss the times before we saw the film. I miss the anticipation. I miss the speculation and theories. The trolls and the insiders. It was so much fan. I never had this much fun following a movie. Hell of a ride, and I miss it dearly.

At least the movie is almost out on Blu Ray(Wow, can you believe that?!)

I feel the same way, Goku. I'm sorry it's over.

 

[Deserana]

I feel very nostalgic about the hype for this film. I actually kind of miss the times before we saw the film. I miss the anticipation. I miss the speculation and theories. The trolls and the insiders. It was so much fan. I never had this much fun following a movie. Hell of a ride, and I miss it dearly.

At least the movie is almost out on Blu Ray(Wow, can you believe that?!)

Could not agree more. I'm very annoyed that I only discovered this forum in December. Being here for TDK would have been sensational.

July 20th was a very bittersweet day. Started with the tragic Aurora news which just shocked me. Then I realised all the build up I've been following for a year had finished, just stopped dead. And then coming on here after all that time of anticipation to realise that quite a bit of the response was negative (well I now realise there wasn't THAT many they were just very vocal).

I left these forums for a while recently and now I've had time to properly absorb the film and I think I can admit now it was disappointing (slightly) though I still say disappointing isn't the right word (and nowhere near as disappointing as some posters on here are making out). The story, on paper at least was thee perfect endng for me and for the majority of the film it worked out.

I think the word that sums it up for me is jarring. This seemed like a follow up to BB than TDK. BB was comic-booky, TDK was very grounded and at no point did it seem like a comic book film to me. Barely any of it seemed far fetched and it had the look of a crime film. It also seemed very intimate yet made Gotham feel like a city. The action showdown took place in one building as well, very unusual for these kind of films TDK was a very intimate character piece IMO. So TDKR's massive scope, big brawling, city-wide action set pieces was very jarring to me. The intimacy of TDK allowed its story to be fleshed out to the full and very detailed IMO I know this isn't a common feeling about TDK but this is how I felt. I hate to say it but for TDKR I can't help but feel Nolan lost the story in favour of making it big. It didn't feel as intimate and intricate of TDK or BB. Nolan acheived a fine spectacle and an amazing story but sometimes they didn't work hand-in-hand. The final battle for me is the perfect example as it never felt like a battle to me, looked awesome as hell but it was pretty much ignored instantly and had much more potential.

Yet whenever I watch it I sit back and relax and my worries go out the window. It is only when I look back retrospectively that I notice these issues. I still think this is a wonderful conclusion, I still think its ridiculously entertaining, still think it should have been a two parter and still think it shouldn't have been as big in scale as it was as it was very jarring after TDK.

I think an issue may have been that the big set pieces were all out there in some form before release the Batman/Police chase, (almost) entire final battle, stadium scene, plane hijack, the Bat, Talia reveal etc... etc... now I never actively perseued these videos but my point is that they were out there. This is why this film probably let down many as they knew what was coming more or less especially in regards to the Talia reveal. Think about TDK the only action you could pretty much see online was the Batpod/Truck chase. All the stuff with the Prewitt building/ferries/Two-Face/Hong Kong/Bank Heist could all be contained. The funny thing is the people who saw the TDKR videos were annoyed that what was in the videos was what happened in the film as if Nolan should have had a trick up his sleeve.

 

[Marvolo]

Could not agree more. I'm very annoyed that I only discovered this forum in December. Being here for TDK would have been sensational.

July 20th was a very bittersweet day. Started with the tragic Aurora news which just shocked me. Then I realised all the build up I've been following for a year had finished, just stopped dead. And then coming on here after all that time of anticipation to realise that quite a bit of the response was negative (well I now realise there wasn't THAT many they were just very vocal).

I left these forums for a while recently and now I've had time to properly absorb the film and I think I can admit now it was disappointing (slightly) though I still say disappointing isn't the right word (and nowhere near as disappointing as some posters on here are making out). The story, on paper at least was thee perfect endng for me and for the majority of the film it worked out.

I think the word that sums it up for me is jarring. This seemed like a follow up to BB than TDK. BB was comic-booky, TDK was very grounded and at no point did it seem like a comic book film to me. Barely any of it seemed far fetched and it had the look of a crime film. It also seemed very intimate yet made Gotham feel like a city. The action showdown took place in one building as well, very unusual for these kind of films TDK was a very intimate character piece IMO. So TDKR's massive scope, big brawling, city-wide action set pieces was very jarring to me. The intimacy of TDK allowed its story to be fleshed out to the full and very detailed IMO I know this isn't a common feeling about TDK but this is how I felt. I hate to say it but for TDKR I can't help but feel Nolan lost the story in favour of making it big. It didn't feel as intimate and intricate of TDK or BB. Nolan acheived a fine spectacle and an amazing story but sometimes they didn't work hand-in-hand. The final battle for me is the perfect example as it never felt like a battle to me, looked awesome as hell but it was pretty much ignored instantly and had much more potential.

Yet whenever I watch it I sit back and relax and my worries go out the window. It is only when I look back retrospectively that I notice these issues. I still think this is a wonderful conclusion, I still think its ridiculously entertaining, still think it should have been a two parter and still think it shouldn't have been as big in scale as it was as it was very jarring after TDK.

I think an issue may have been that the big set pieces were all out there in some form before release the Batman/Police chase, (almost) entire final battle, stadium scene, plane hijack, the Bat, Talia reveal etc... etc... now I never actively perseued these videos but my point is that they were out there. This is why this film probably let down many as they knew what was coming more or less especially in regards to the Talia reveal. Think about TDK the only action you could pretty much see online was the Batpod/Truck chase. All the stuff with the Prewitt building/ferries/Two-Face/Hong Kong/Bank Heist could all be contained. The funny thing is the people who saw the TDKR videos were annoyed that what was in the videos was what happened in the film as if Nolan should have had a trick up his sleeve.

I feel largely the same way.

 

[Reek]

TDKR's nostalgia and hype, at least here, was crap compared to the fun times leading up to TDK.

 

[JackWhite]

I pretty much had the entire third act, especially the final battle and ending, spoiled for me. But that's all on me. I should have been more careful and participated less with online discussions; like I did with TDK. But the first two acts of TDKR was breathtaking on my first viewing.

I'm still not sure where I place TDKR in the trilogy. But for right now, it's the second best in the trilogy, IMO. The Blu Ray cannot come out soon enough.

 

[CrypticOne]

Has anyone seen the Blu-ray version of the trilogy thats gonna come out?! Looks awesome.

 

[BatLobster]

I feel very nostalgic about the hype for this film. I actually kind of miss the times before we saw the film. I miss the anticipation. I miss the speculation and theories. The trolls and the insiders. It was so much fan. I never had this much fun following a movie. Hell of a ride, and I miss it dearly.

At least the movie is almost out on Blu Ray(Wow, can you believe that?!)

I'm with ya dude. This movie was a blast to follow. Things were so quiet in the years following TDK that when any little piece of news trickled out about TDKR, it felt like sacred info and would get picked apart to no end.

When Tom Hardy was cast, I definitely was still thinking along the lines that the villain would probably be Riddler. Not only because I wanted to see Nolan's take on the character, but the rumors had consistently mentioned various actors for the role, so it seemed kind of inevitable. That's how little we knew about this movie back in October 2010. Then Nolan drops the bombshell that the villain isn't the Riddler! Ha! Then all the Hugo Strange theories that followed. Good times.

For me, the fun with this movie was in not knowing if they could top TDK...but knowing that they were gonna damn sure try. Considering there seemed to be a fair chance Nolan would just walk away (and nobody would blame him), I took comfort in the knowledge that he was going to finish what he started. There were times when the wait was just agonizing. Everyone has their opinion on the results of course, but for me the anticipation of these Nolan Bat-films is something that will probably never quite be replicated. I think the IMAX had a lot to do with that for me too. Seeing those prologues months in advance is just insane and takes hype to a new level. Those sizzle reels at the end were just jaw-dropping. Such a simple concept...Shot. Black. Shot. Black. But seeing that on an IMAX screen with Zimmer's score pounding...pure adrenaline. It made 6 months feel like it was going to be an eternity.

It's insane, but this fan-edit using Burton/Schumacher clips (even made to look a like a bootleg) still manages to have that "F*** YES!" effect on me. It's just such a beautiful approach in its simplicity [YT]6r5NxwNfnmI[/YT]

 

[BaleISBatman4ev]

Ok 3 nagging uber Bat nerd questions that are pestering me and i just wanted another bat nerd to clarify he's had these same thoughts so i dont feel too crazy.

1: Bane is eating/Drinking when we first see him in his Gotham underground lair correct?

2: Asian Cop who John Blake corresponds with in the tunnels is the "Must be a compound that has to be ingested via the lungs" cop from Begins (Or am i racist?)

3: Senator who's a big batfan and was the "we're not intimidated by thugs" "You look like my father.... I hated my father" dude from the penthouse party scene in TDK is one of the board members at wayne enterprises that's defending Bruce Wayne against Dagget?

Honorable Mentions:

4: Anyone else think Talia stabbing Bruce in the ribs was a throwback to Rhas "When someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them, and stab them in the heart" ... and Batman's subsequent "Maybe the knife, was too slow" line (One of my favorite Bat lines in the trilogy)

 

[Tequilla]

What kind of processor do you need to render in 8K?

About the 750 , its surprising because its not much more than in TDK (if i remember correctly it was around 700).

The beauty of it , its they are applied to plate photography .

 

[Brain Damage]

Y'know Kevin Smith pointed out that if comic book Batman had been in TDKR he would have grabbed Talia's hand as she was thrusting her knife, then revealed that he knew who she was all along and was just playing her to get to Bane/the bomb.

I know comic book Batman and Nolan Batman are different beasts, but I'd love to have seen a Sherlock Holmes moment out of our hero. As it stands, Batman gets taken out WAY too easily by Talia and Bane.
Seriously, he's ready to die before Catwoman bursts in. Because he got stabbed once. I understand it probably hurt more than most of us could even comprehend, but this is BATMAN we're talking about.
What happened to fighting longer than possible?

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I think you're underestimating a knife in between your ribs. Also add to the fact that she was twisting it damn slowly, which would have increased the pain ten-fold. And the emotional strife of finding out who she really was made him feel like hell.

I don't necessarily think Batman would've taken her down like Kevin Smith said if it was "comic book" Batman. But he's interpreted enough times that you can't tell which exact intepretation.

I like your idea of a Sherlock Holmes moment but it wouldn't have been that necessary in that scene.

 

[Brain Damage]

I think you're underestimating a knife in between your ribs. Also add to the fact that she was twisting it damn slowly, which would have increased the pain ten-fold. And the emotional strife of finding out who she really was made him feel like hell.

Again, I know it must have hurt more than most of us could even comprehend, but again - BATMAN. Think about how much pain he has endured just from the time he spent in the prison to that moment in city hall. You're telling me that BATMAN wouldn't fight through it all when he thinks his entire city is about to be blown to smithereens?

That's not the Batman I know, and it's not the Batman from BB, TDK or really all of TDKR except that scene.

As for your last point about the emotional strife, yes, I agree that it's definitely a factor, but that is too a problem (and it's not just because Miranda isn't developed nearly enough as a love interest). Batman would have been devastated, that's for damn sure, but considering his entire arc in this trilogy, it doesn't make sense that he'd just stay down on his knees while Bane pointed a shotgun at his face. Feeling defeated and betrayed and wanting to give up is something Batman might have done in BB, but by this point in TDKR, he should be better than that.

 

[Uroboric Forms]

"I know exactly who you are. Which is why I let you find the location of the nuclear reactor, so Bane could get to it."

 

[Brain Damage]

"I know exactly who you are. Which is why I let you find the location of the nuclear reactor, so Bane could get to it."

I think you're missing the point
The point is that a more comic-book accurate would have puppeteered everyone to further his own means, and that sort of thing would have to have been built up throughout the whole movie, of course.

Again, it's not necessary as Nolan's Batman isn't know for doing things like this, but it would have made the scene play out much better in my opinion. My biggest problems is that the way Batman acts in that scene is contradictory to how Nolan has defined him up to that point, which I've explained in my above post.