The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - Part 150

[Shikamaru]

Other Marvel movies found a balance between having a stand-alone story while still being a "slice of the bigger pie". I'm not talking about the likes of IM2/Thor/TFA, I'm talking about IM1, Avengers, Cap 2. Even IM3 and TDW, despite the issues they have as movies, still told a complete story.

 

[Green Goblin]

Other Marvel movies found a balance between having a stand-alone story while still being a "slice of the bigger pie". I'm not talking about the likes of IM2/Thor/TFA, I'm talking about IM1, Avengers, Cap 2. Even IM3 and TDW, despite the issues they have as movies, still told a complete story.

I think TFA isn't too bad at this. It mainly gives back story and history to the MCU.

 

[Green Goblin]

You know whats funny/ a little thing I liked in MOS?

How the visual effects crew were able to pass dick jokes past the producers.

 

[Kane52630]

maybe it's a metaphor.

 

[georgec]

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Oh my god LOL

 

[Victarion]

Cannot unsee.

 

[georgec]

 

[JackWhite]

LOL! The Hardy GIF makes it even more funny.

 

[Green Goblin]

On a related matter in MOS you know the way they needed the codex to restart the race?

A woman was on the ship... Just sayin

 

[ThePhantasm]

On a related matter in MOS you know the way they needed the codex to restart the race?

A woman was on the ship... Just sayin

The codex was needed to restart the race with their genetic programming. A natural child would have been like Kal... and Zod and co. clearly thought that was "heresy."

 

[Green Goblin]

The codex was needed to restart the race with their genetic programming. A natural child would have been like Kal... and Zod and co. clearly thought that was "heresy."

True.

Spaceship ******** can't be done in a PG-13 flick.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

On a related matter in MOS you know the way they needed the codex to restart the race?

A woman was on the ship... Just sayin

Minimum viable population is in the thousands.

 

[BatLobster]

Lol, noticed the fleet of ****s on my first viewing.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Edit: whoops.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Not to beat a dead horse here, but my problem with the "origin of the no kill rule" (what a silly thing to say) is that it doesn't make any sense. If Superman was to face a similar predicament in the future, kill Brainiac or let Earth perish, wouldn't he kill again, to save lives? Is he just gonna go "Sorry folks, I already killed once, won't do it again. Bye now"

Of course the writers will give him option number three, "send bad guy back to his dimension" or whatever, to avoid having Superman killing again, but then they are falling prey to convenient writing, which is probably what they were trying to avoid in the first place! For months the people defending the Zod kill would go on about how they loved that it wasn't a safe ending, blah, blah, so I wonder what they are expecting now.

Superman did the right thing by killing Zod as presented in MOS. Sure he will not like it, but if he had to do it again, I assume that could be quite a problem/contradiction eh? One that the writers probably (convenientl) simply won't adress perhaps? And why would Batman be pissy about Superman killing? Why would he care? He doesn't even know Clark. At all.

 

[Shikamaru]

I think TFA isn't too bad at this. It mainly gives back story and history to the MCU.

It's a crash course in Captain America's history, more or less.

 

[DrexBat21]

How did Lucius Fox get his job back in TDKR? Didn't he resign at the end of TDK?

 

[ThePhantasm]

I Am The Knight, Superman doesn't (and never has, as far as I know) had a no-kill rule. That's Batman's schtick.

Superman doesn't normally kill if he can avoid it, but in the comics with guys like Zod and Doomsday etc. he has done it to save lives. He's a more pragmatic superhero while Bruce is more rigidly committed to a code.

 

[Snow Queen]

How did Lucius Fox get his job back in TDKR? Didn't he resign at the end of TDK?

He said "...but consider this my resignation. So long as this machine is at Wayne Enterprises, I won't be." His resignation was conditional on if the machine was there. It was destroyed at the end of the film, so he didn't leave.

 

[shauner111]

How did Lucius Fox get his job back in TDKR? Didn't he resign at the end of TDK?

No, he was about to but Bruce destroyed the machine. Hence the smile on Fox's face.

 

[Ryan]

Not sure if it was discussed or not but do any think that mos would have been better had Nolan directed it?

 

[Kane52630]

I doubt it, he'll probably make him "super human" but wont give him any powers.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I Am The Knight, Superman doesn't (and never has, as far as I know) had a no-kill rule. That's Batman's schtick.

Superman doesn't normally kill if he can avoid it, but in the comics with guys like Zod and Doomsday etc. he has done it to save lives. He's a more pragmatic superhero while Bruce is more rigidly committed to a code.

I think Superman had a no kill rule at some point, most likely pre-Byrne. I remember something like that, but I'm no Superman expert Anyway in this DC cinematic universe, Zack Snyder has stated that the Zod kill was the origin of Superman's no kill rule.

 

[Spider-Goblin]

After what we got from Nolan's sequels, I would've preferred it.

though I love Begins