TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 1

[GreenKToo]

he said IF, not that it would. everyone is holding their breath on this one.

 

[Knightstalker]

Is that Devin Faraci a Marvel fanboy, or just a bit of a jackass? Isn't he the same guy that got the snot beat out of him by an amateur film maker that he trashed?

 

[JangoNate]

Is that Devin Faraci a Marvel fanboy, or just a bit of a jackass?

Don't know him well, but my encounters with him through Man of Steel lines up a lot with the latter.

For some reason, I don't see this one not making a good chunk of money. My friends and family, even, have been excited for this sense the trailers. Today at breakfast, my dad was asking where he could by a Superman Tshirt so that we could all wear them when we see it Friday. I don't think I've ever heard him say something like that. If the reviews are decent on Monday, that'll solidify it's success even more and good word of mouth could propel this thing far.

 

[BatLobster]

Is that Devin Faraci a Marvel fanboy, or just a bit of a jackass? Isn't he the same guy that got the snot beat out of him by an amateur film maker that he trashed?

A little bit of both I'd say, but mostly the latter. And yes, he is the guy who went down in two very quick rounds to that P.O.'d filmmaker, lol.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

he said IF, not that it would. everyone is holding their breath on this one.

It's kind of funny how some people think it's going to make over $900 million, others think it will make around $600/700 million...
Yet people are still scared it might bomb

 

[Joeyjojo72]

I think he had already mastered it. But as I said above, he was in an extremely high stress situation (the floor had just literally been blown out beneath him, he was in pain etc) and Loki was seriously messing with him, hence why he subconsciously picked up the scepter. That's why when he Hulks out on the carrier, it's an out of control Hulk.

They didn't come out and blatantly tell you this, but I thought it was all pretty clear.

It was quite clear that Loki was influencing them. Even my 60 year old mother and my cb hating gf got it. Its not even subtle IMO.

 

[Knightstalker]

A little bit of both I'd say, but mostly the latter. And yes, he is the guy who went down in two very quick rounds to that P.O.'d filmmaker, lol.

Haha, nice . Seems like he has an agenda. It's like he wants the movie to fail. Same as these hardcore Marvel fans that want it to bomb, just so they can proclaim that they're "the winners" .

As far as I see it, the failure of one CBM is a failure for the whole industry, not just one company. It's stupid and annoying.

 

[king666]

A little bit of both I'd say, but mostly the latter. And yes, he is the guy who went down in two very quick rounds to that P.O.'d filmmaker, lol.

He said he lost the fight because of his contact lens
Also, his review for MOS is going to be negative. 90% sure.

 

[Knightstalker]

He said he lost the fight because of his contact lens
Also, his review for MOS is going to be negative. 90% sure.

His review was probably negative before he'd even seen it

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Haha, nice . Seems like he has an agenda. It's like he wants the movie to fail. Same as these hardcore Marvel fans that want it to bomb, just so they can proclaim that they're "the winners" .

As far as I see it, the failure of one CBM is a failure for the whole industry, not just one company. It's stupid and annoying.

Exactly, to a lot of the GA a superhero movie is a superhero movie.

 

[Dr. Fortress]

Haha, nice . Seems like he has an agenda. It's like he wants the movie to fail. Same as these hardcore Marvel fans that want it to bomb, just so they can proclaim that they're "the winners" .

As far as I see it, the failure of one CBM is a failure for the whole industry, not just one company. It's stupid and annoying.

So did Marvel suffer after the failure of Green Lantern?

 

[Knightstalker]

Exactly, to a lot of the GA a superhero movie is a superhero movie.

Yep, dead right. A lot of people probably think Superman, Batman, Wolverine, and Spider-Man are all from the same company

 

[Knightstalker]

So did Marvel suffer after the failure of Green Lantern?

No, fortunately the Marvel movies that came out after that were good, to great. And don't worry, I know DC fans can be just as annoying.

 

[Visualiza]

As much as I loved Avengers and some of the other Marvel movies, I've always found the world they exist in to be a little too comic booky for my taste. Everything's feels a bit too jokey and artificial, and you never get the sense that there's a real world happening outside of what those characters are doing.

What Man of Steel seems to be doing I like MUCH more-- setting a fantastic character in a believable, realistic world that you can actually imagine yourself being a part of.

I can't see it this way for a few reasons. For one, I don't see why films within the genre can't be presented in their own ways. Secondly, I think that this whole 'dark, gritty, and grounded' tone is becoming a fad, and in some cases, filmmakers sacrifice a great deal of content for said tone, Dredd being a noteworthy recent example. They got the characterization right, the tone, mood, and violence was on the money, but outside of that...the plot, acting, and writing overall were lukewarm at best. That's not what I want from films in any genre.

The problem is, audiences are giving this practice a free pass, and your last sentence proves as much IMO. There's nothing believable or realistic about the world MoS, TDK, Dredd, or any of these recent 'grounded & gritty' movies present. An overly serious tone, filled with angst and pathos /= realism, but more and more people continue to assert that this is so. Personally, I refuse to put so much stock into the mood of a film; it has quickly become what I'd consider cinematic snake oil.

Lastly, I find the notion that comic book films should forsake the style of their source material to be disturbing. This is akin to my overall issue that people are paying too much attention to the tone of films these days as opposed to the content. If the content and substance that makes up a film is good, then I think tone should be considered a secondary characteristic.

 

[BH/HHH]

In the TV guide for the Sun, they gave it 4 stars

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

In the TV guide for the Sun, they gave it 4 stars

Poor Routh gets no respect at all.

 

[Knightstalker]

Poor Routh gets no respect at all.

Yeah, I feel sorry for the poor guy

 

[Gavan]

Poor Routh. I don't like that Returns is set in the Donner-verse but but they could've phrased that more diplomatically.

 

[jsi23]

In the TV guide for the Sun, they gave it 4 stars

Is this out of 4 or 5 stars?

 

[BH/HHH]

Poor Routh gets no respect at all.

Ha ha I know, I really liked him myself

 

[Knightstalker]

On the other hand, it's nice to see a 4 star review

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Hey at least they bothered mentioning his name

 

[Joeyjojo72]

I can't see it this way for a few reasons. For one, I don't see why films within the genre can't be presented in their own ways. Secondly, I think that this whole 'dark, gritty, and grounded' tone is becoming a fad, and in some cases, filmmakers sacrifice a great deal of content for said tone, Dredd being a noteworthy recent example. They got the characterization right, the tone, mood, and violence was on the money, but outside of that...the plot, acting, and writing overall were lukewarm at best. That's not what I want from films in any genre.

The problem is, audiences are giving this practice a free pass, and your last sentence proves as much IMO. There's nothing believable or realistic about the world MoS, TDK, Dredd, or any of these recent 'grounded & gritty' movies present. An overly serious tone, filled with angst and pathos /= realism, but more and more people continue to assert that this is so. Personally, I refuse to put so much stock into the mood of a film; it has quickly become what I'd consider cinematic snake oil.

Lastly, I find the notion that comic book films should forsake the style of their source material to be disturbing. This is akin to my overall issue that people are paying too much attention to the tone of films these days as opposed to the content. If the content and substance that makes up a film is good, then I think tone should be considered a secondary characteristic.

Spot on man. Why would anyone want superhero films to have the same or even similar tones anyway? An Avengers movie with the tone of say tdkr would've been laughable.

Its great that marvel and DC are doing their own things with their own tones.

And please let's not repeat the foolishness of last year. If you feel the need to bring up the Avengers when youre discussing MoS, you're doing it wrong. This film deserves to be judged and discussed on its own merits.

 

[Man_of_Tomorrow]

Yeah, the action is #1 out of any CBM you've seen.

In terms of scale would it be possible to ramp up the action in Avengers 2 to match this, or is it more about the characters and their powers limitations?

What makes me think of this is the Snyder quote from SFX:

And when the interviewer asked Zack about making a superhero film in a genre that’s come to be dominated by Marvel Studios, Snyder infers that when Man of Steel comes out, you’ll be asking other superhero filmmakers that same question.

Zack Snyder: “If you get [Man of Steel] right, that’s the question you’ll be asking everyone else. That should be the question you’re asking Iron Man and Thor. How is it you feel you can be making a superhero movie in a world where Superman and Batman exist?”
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I enjoyed the Avengers but going off previews it took 6 of them to handle what seems to sound like a smaller threat. Im wondering how easy it'll be for Whedon to just ramp things up while keeping it in perspective with everything thats already come before.

 

[Knightstalker]

Is this out of 4 or 5 stars?

Looks like its 4 out of 5 stars, but the write up makes it sounds like a 5 star review haha