TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion

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MessiahDecoy123 said:
I dunno, everything outside of the force? :woot:
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Again, like what?

Truly reasonable people choose agnosticism over atheism.

The truth is no mortal knows if there's a God or not.
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I don't think you understand what 'agnostic' and 'atheist' means... I am not a native English person and even I know what they mean...

Atheism and Agnostism are not mutually exclusive..

Here's a good article on it:

http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm

So no, Bruce Almighty is not pure fantasy like Harry Potter.
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You lost me there.. it's like saying, 'Bugs bunny is more real than Leprecauns'
 
"I also saw the movie at Atlantic Station last night. It's very good. The immediate comparison to TDK is expected.

Short answer: About on par with Batman Begins, not as good at TDK.

Long Answer: It gives Superman the respect he deserves. There hasn't been a great Superman movie since Superman II and this one delivers on basically every level. The origin story is exciting and helps set up the plot for the rest of the movie. In fact, it helps to generate some hatred for the villain early on without taking away from developing Superman as a likeable character in the second act.

The action is nonstop. The pacing reminds me of Speed. In Speed the audience starts off with ridiculous adrenaline scenes and doesn't stop for two hours. Man of Steel is about the same, except for 2.5 hours. There's really nothing to criticize unless you're hoping for a contemplative reflection on the burdens of being a god among mortals.

The script is so action packed and fast paced that the relationship between Lois and Clark gets very little attention. Lois is reduced to a damsel in distress for most of the movie. I don't really mind this. I didn't come to Superman to watch him fall in love with Lois. I want to see him punch his way out of every situation. Some might fault the movie on this front, but I look at that bug as a feature. Less love story gives me less time to sigh and wish we were fighting aliens.

I won't bother with any spoilers since you can basically guess what happens: Superman shows up, gets his ass kicked, kicks ass, and saves the day. It's a paint by the numbers action film that delivers on all fronts.
Although everyone wants to know if this is as good as TDK, the real comparison is Avengers. This film has the scope, energy, and feel of the Avengers and is an obvious answer to their billion dollar blockbuster from last year.

To give you an idea of how good MoS is, I'm actually excited about seeing a MoS sequel instead of jumping right into Justice League. The characters were interesting enough to hold up their own movies and individual story arc.

Go see this one. It's the movie of the summer."
 
Matt C ‏@utahgimmetwo 30m Saw Man Of Steel last night. It tucks all the other summer movies in for bed. Night, night other movies.
 
Liam_H said:
Well if you go by the world of Potter, you wouldn't know if its pure fantasy would you.
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That's because muggles are ignorant to the world around them but the audience knows "the truth".

Star Wars leaves the truth open for interpretation about the actual nature of the force. It never claims the force is magic, secretly or openly.
 
robot said:
Well, since we haven't seen MOS yet, it could well have Sci-Fi elements in it, considering that Goyer already said they'll try to be as 'real as possible'... so, yeah, in that regard, it may be consider a sub-sci-fi genre... but definitely not pure sci-fi....

Cause, just because you explain such and such does not make it 'sci-fi'.. it has to start with a technology, or knowlege we know as true, then postulate it to some fantastic future / extreme which is also plausible.. for instance, just saying 'the yellow sun affects this alien being' is not sci-fi...

but saying 'these aliens have denser cell structures and strong muscles because they evolved in a far bigger planet', now that's sci-fi...

And no, 'ability to fly' just because you're from a denser planet is not 'sci-fi' no matter how they try to explain it... (the closest they can come to trying to make it as sci-fi-ish as possible is if they said that since superman's cells are denser, he can somehow control their 'density' or manipulate space/time around him, and cause an anti-grav field... and that's why we see pebbles floating just before he flew for the first time in the trailers... , now, that's sort of a cop-out sci-fi-ish.. like warp drive in star trek for instance...)
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It's rarely ever either/or - there are subgenres to consider.

Hard sci-fi is concerned with plausibility and rational explanations; soft sci-fi is not. I'd qualify Superman as the latter.

And if you really want to get technical, Star Wars is a space opera. :)
 
This was an awful film. Purely awful. There was nothing in the way of flow throughout the film. It felt like so many of these scenes (especially early on) were just arbitrarily jammed together in the editing room. The acting is pretty uniformly bland throughout the film (Michael Shannon chews it up, but not enough to save the film). I was especially disappointed by this because I was loving the thought of Cavill and Adams in the leads but both were completely unmemorable. Zack Snyder chose to take the "Superman as Jesus" metaphor and smash it into your face, over and over again. (If you thought what they did with that metaphor in Superman Returns was bad, oh boy. You're in for some treats.)

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http://awardswatch.com/showthread.php?33169-Man-of-Steel-(Snyder-2013)
 
robot said:
Well, since we haven't seen MOS yet, it could well have Sci-Fi elements in it, considering that Goyer already said they'll try to be as 'real as possible'... so, yeah, in that regard, it may be consider a sub-sci-fi genre... but definitely not pure sci-fi....

Cause, just because you explain such and such does not make it 'sci-fi'.. it has to start with a technology, or knowlege we know as true, then postulate it to some fantastic future / extreme which is also plausible.. for instance, just saying 'the yellow sun affects this alien being' is not sci-fi...

but saying 'these aliens have denser cell structures and strong muscles because they evolved in a far bigger planet', now that's sci-fi...

And no, 'ability to fly' just because you're from a denser planet is not 'sci-fi' no matter how they try to explain it... (the closest they can come to trying to make it as sci-fi-ish as possible is if they said that since superman's cells are denser, he can somehow control their 'density' or manipulate space/time around him, and cause an anti-grav field... and that's why we see pebbles floating just before he flew for the first time in the trailers... , now, that's sort of a cop-out sci-fi-ish.. like warp drive in star trek for instance...)



Again, still fantasy... totally baseless.. midiclorins or whatever they say it is is pure fantasy...



I don't watch Doctor Who, but if it deals with time machines, etc.. then those are all plausible...



Just because an 'actor' says it is doens't make it so... even if George Lucas says it is, also does not make it so...
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The Doctor in Doctor Who is a fashionable God like being who can regenerate. Could that happen in real life?

Back to the Future explained squat and it has time-travel. All they did was pointed at the Flux capacitor and bingo, explained!
 
Autonet said:
"I also saw the movie at Atlantic Station last night. It's very good. The immediate comparison to TDK is expected.

Short answer: About on par with Batman Begins, not as good at TDK.

Long Answer: It gives Superman the respect he deserves. There hasn't been a great Superman movie since Superman II and this one delivers on basically every level. The origin story is exciting and helps set up the plot for the rest of the movie. In fact, it helps to generate some hatred for the villain early on without taking away from developing Superman as a likeable character in the second act.

The action is nonstop. The pacing reminds me of Speed. In Speed the audience starts off with ridiculous adrenaline scenes and doesn't stop for two hours. Man of Steel is about the same, except for 2.5 hours. There's really nothing to criticize unless you're hoping for a contemplative reflection on the burdens of being a god among mortals.

The script is so action packed and fast paced that the relationship between Lois and Clark gets very little attention. Lois is reduced to a damsel in distress for most of the movie. I don't really mind this. I didn't come to Superman to watch him fall in love with Lois. I want to see him punch his way out of every situation. Some might fault the movie on this front, but I look at that bug as a feature. Less love story gives me less time to sigh and wish we were fighting aliens.

I won't bother with any spoilers since you can basically guess what happens: Superman shows up, gets his ass kicked, kicks ass, and saves the day. It's a paint by the numbers action film that delivers on all fronts.
Although everyone wants to know if this is as good as TDK, the real comparison is Avengers. This film has the scope, energy, and feel of the Avengers and is an obvious answer to their billion dollar blockbuster from last year.

To give you an idea of how good MoS is, I'm actually excited about seeing a MoS sequel instead of jumping right into Justice League. The characters were interesting enough to hold up their own movies and individual story arc.

Go see this one. It's the movie of the summer."
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Link to this?
 
moviefan! said:
This was an awful film. Purely awful. There was nothing in the way of flow throughout the film. It felt like so many of these scenes (especially early on) were just arbitrarily jammed together in the editing room. The acting is pretty uniformly bland throughout the film (Michael Shannon chews it up, but not enough to save the film). I was especially disappointed by this because I was loving the thought of Cavill and Adams in the leads but both were completely unmemorable. Zack Snyder chose to take the "Superman as Jesus" metaphor and smash it into your face, over and over again. (If you thought what they did with that metaphor in Superman Returns was bad, oh boy. You're in for some treats.)

Most negative
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http://awardswatch.com/showthread.php?33169-Man-of-Steel-(Snyder-2013)
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She/he said a lot of the people she/he was with liked it so yeah :yay:
 
moviefan! said:
This was an awful film. Purely awful. There was nothing in the way of flow throughout the film. It felt like so many of these scenes (especially early on) were just arbitrarily jammed together in the editing room. The acting is pretty uniformly bland throughout the film (Michael Shannon chews it up, but not enough to save the film). I was especially disappointed by this because I was loving the thought of Cavill and Adams in the leads but both were completely unmemorable. Zack Snyder chose to take the "Superman as Jesus" metaphor and smash it into your face, over and over again. (If you thought what they did with that metaphor in Superman Returns was bad, oh boy. You're in for some treats.)

Most negative
Review yet
http://awardswatch.com/showthread.php?33169-Man-of-Steel-(Snyder-2013)
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Does not surprise me one bit, since Goyer said, "Second biggest influence would be the New Testament and Old Testament" So I am guessing she doesn't like that. Also I believe this is why we are getting the "terrible" and "awful" stuff from. Too much CGI and not enough time spent on certain characters, but THIS IS AN ORIGIN ABOUT Kal-el/Clark. :doh:. Yeah SR did have that, but also really NO action at all. and a super weak story line imho.
 
Ms. Marvel said:
She/he said a lot of the people she/he was with liked it so yeah :yay:
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She. Makes it sound like the plot is disjointed? Haven't heard that complaint yet. If anything it's too focused from other impressions.
 
Saw the new Superman movie, "Man of Steel" tonight. *sigh* How I long for an On Golden Pond or Forrest Gump. I know, I know! That makes me an old fuddy duddy.
I'm just tired of these movies. They're all basically the same. Some bad guys wreaking havoc and destroying everything, then a big fight with the good guy and the good guy eventually wins. Snore. The best part of the movie was the stuff about Superman's origin and his time as Clark Kent.
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moviefan! said:
Saw the new Superman movie, "Man of Steel" tonight. *sigh* How I long for an On Golden Pond or Forrest Gump. I know, I know! That makes me an old fuddy duddy.
I'm just tired of these movies. They're all basically the same. Some bad guys wreaking havoc and destroying everything, then a big fight with the good guy and the good guy eventually wins. Snore. The best part of the movie was the stuff about Superman's origin and his time as Clark Kent.
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Superman origin movie where he wins? Well I never. CBM 101.
 
Oh how I'm glad some of these people aren't professional movie critics.
 
Ms. Marvel said:
She/he said a lot of the people she/he was with liked it so yeah :yay:
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I am fine with awful from her, she at least gave her reasons. But she did like things in the movie and looks like she couldn't get over the issues she had with it "character/biblical/too much CGI issues." She had preconceptions of the movie and the characters. That is why I have tried my best to keep my expectations in check. If they become too high, then I will be a little disappointed a la "TDKR" when I walked away, after my first viewing, disappointed.
 
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