The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane VIII

[DareDemon]

I do agree that I think Bane will be part of the LoS as well. I'm not sure why it matters where he's from though. It's a pretty globalized world.

 

[D.P.]

I have no evidence but I think JGL being cast as a cop named "John Blake" reeks of trying too hard to make it seem as if his role will be insignificant.

Might as well had named him "John Doe".

I call swerve.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I have no evidence but I think JGL being cast as a cop named "John Blake" reeks of trying too hard to make it seem as if his role will be insignificant.

Might as well had named him "John Doe".

I call swerve.

I can go with you there. I don't think JGL would be cast in a pointless role after making Nolan's short-list of frequent collaborators.

However, I still don't think that his "more than meets the eye" character is obviously part of the LOS. Maybe he'll be like Gordon was, and be the one good cop? After Ramirez and Wuertz, there's gotta be some suspicion around GCPD. But maybe Blake becomes Gordon's protege or something?

 

[D.P.]

I can go with you there. I don't think JGL would be cast in a pointless role after making Nolan's short-list of frequent collaborators.

However, I still don't think that his "more than meets the eye" character is obviously part of the LOS. Maybe he'll be like Gordon was, and be the one good cop? After Ramirez and Wuertz, there's gotta be some suspicion around GCPD. But maybe Blake becomes Gordon's protege or something?

Yea, I'm not ready to say he's in LoS yet, but definitely something deeper here.

 

[wikum]

Evidently, "Tom Hardy is too small to convincingly beat up Batman as Bane" is going to be this year's "Chris Hemsworth is too svelte and skinny with his swimmer's build to be Thor, they should have cast Triple H." Time will tell if the former is rendered as moot by the finished film as the latter was.

a lot of people are saying something along the lines of 'i hope nolan uses camera tricks to make bane look slightly taller than batman', and it's something that i totally agree with. it's a personal preference. it's not something that will completely ruin the film for me if it's not implemented (and i'm sure it won't for the majority of people on this board who are hoping for the same thing).

as far as i could tell, hardly anybody (if anyone at all) is saying "tom hardy is too small to convincingly beat up batman as bane". suggesting we'd want an inferior actor who looks right size is just stupid. every day of the week i'd take a skinny version of tom hardy over...lets say brock lesner.

we all know that the tall guy doesn't automatically beat the small guy. herein lies the reason that they should make bane taller than batman, because from an aesthetic standpoint, it makes it look all the more awesome when batman does finally beat him.

 

[Rod47]

Holy moly son of a pony.

Not jacked at all. I see these same guys in the gym rolling their shoulders forward to make it seem like they have a thick neck and big traps but physique geeks will spot the ******edness of the individual trying to hard to look jacked.

 

[Russell Nash]

From the little footage I've seen of the teaser, It appears that Nolan is setting up the character of Bane as a dark mirror to Batman himself. Bruce is the man who falls while Bane is the fire that rises. Also from the story rumors, Bane's family is killed by the League of Shadows and eventually joins their ranks. Bruce's family is also killed by the League of Shadows (economic warfare) but rejects their ideology. Bane is essentially Bruce if he decided to do what is "necessary" to stop criminals and the corrupt. The will to act. Bruce is no executioner while Bane on the other hand is.

 

[Rod47]

The Nolan fanboys. *sighs. If Nolan chose the same actor that played Bane in BnR, I can guarantee that the fanboys will rejoice and say some crap like "Nolan will make it work."

Hell if Nolan casted Samuel Jackson as Batman, Nolan fanboys will still rejoice. Nolan fanboys don't give a crap at all about the physical aspect and traits of an actor/actress. All that matters to them is the acting skills, since that's all that Nolan cares about. Nolan fanboys are sheeps that think Nolan can't ever go wrong. Whatever Nolan says, the fanboys agree and support.

I want a good balance. I will take good acting and good physical traits, over great acting and terrible physical traits (for the role).

 

[Russell Nash]

The Nolan fanboys. *sighs. If Nolan chose the same actor that played Bane in BnR, I can guarantee that the fanboys will rejoice and say some crap like "Nolan will make it work."

Hell if Nolan casted Samuel Jackson as Batman, Nolan fanboys will still rejoice. Nolan fanboys don't give a crap at all about the physical aspect and traits of an actor/actress. All that matters to them is the acting skills, since that's all that Nolan cares about. Nolan fanboys are sheeps that think Nolan can't ever go wrong. Whatever Nolan says, the fanboys agree and support.

I want a good balance. I will take good acting and good physical traits, over great acting and terrible physical traits (for the role).

Watch "Bronson." You'll see why Nolan is absolutely right on the casting of Hardy as Bane.

 

[TheScarecrow]

What 'physical traits' has he not paid attention to? Crane and Dent I give you (although he had a point with Dent's look). Hardy as Bane is different because you'll never find an actor willing to make himself that huge, or a huge guy who can act well enough. The rest have been spot on.

 

[Rod47]

He's not jacked at all in Bronson. He looked fat with some muscles. He wasn't cut and he constantly rolled his shoulders forward to make it seem like he had a thick neck and bulging traps. But being a physique scruitnizer, it looks ridiculous to me. He had round and narrow shoulders. You could not distinguish his traps from his deltoids (because he didn't have well defined shoulders). I'm not asking for Ronnie Coleman here. A physique like Dwayne Johnson's would suffice.

 

[Rod47]

What 'physical traits' has he not paid attention to? Crane and Dent I give you (although he had a point with Dent's look). Hardy as Bane is different because you'll never find an actor willing to make himself that huge, or a huge guy who can act well enough. The rest have been spot on.

Buff guys who can act? While not the greatest actor, he's pretty decent and has been improving... Dwayne Johnson. If that's not good enough acting, then there's Vin Diesel. If not good enough, then there's Hugh Jackman. The physique gets less buff but still light years superior to Hardy's.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Buff guys who can act? While not the greatest actor, he's pretty decent and has been improving... Dwayne Johnson. If that's not good enough acting, then there's Vin Diesel. If not good enough, then there's Hugh Jackman. The physique gets less buff but still light years superior to Hardy's.

None of the actors you've stated possess the prowless to play an anti-Batman. Their bodies might be lightyears ahead of Hardy's but nothing else screams out 'BANE' about them. Hardy has experience playing dark characters and was made for a role such as this one.

 

[wb2012]

Bane's position in the League is equivalent to Batman's at the start of BB. Bruce didn't accept Ras' plan to destory Gotham, Bane does. Bane is the anti Batman.

 

[moviedoors]

Buff guys who can act? While not the greatest actor, he's pretty decent and has been improving... Dwayne Johnson. If that's not good enough acting, then there's Vin Diesel. If not good enough, then there's Hugh Jackman. The physique gets less buff but still light years superior to Hardy's.

If you put me in a room and the president of WB walked in, threw done a picture of Dwayne Johnson, of Vin Diesel, of Hugh Jackman, of Tom Hardy, and then said "Now pick Bane," I'd pick Hardy. I'd say "Well, this guy, more so than the others, has convinced me he can play a truly insane, intense, killer with a look in his eyes that will give you the chills. Bronson was a scary maniac. And I'd love to see Hardy work with Nolan again. So, Hardy is Bane."

 

[CrimsonDeath]

Bane's position in the League is equivalent to Batman's at the start of BB. Bruce didn't accept Ras' plan to destory Gotham, Bane does. Bane is the anti Batman.

Exactly , and welcome to the forums, give us hell.

But some others here have said, that to be more specific, Bane is the anti Bruce. Bane then attempts to destroy that which Bruce has created out the tragedy of his life, the legacy and legend of the Batman.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

They used many different types of effects. True, some of them were forced perspective, such as sets being built with different-sized objects and using certain camera angles. But they also used a fair amount of CGI as well as body doubles who were all between 3'6" and 4'0" for each of the Hobbits.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19140_8-movie-special-effects-you-wont-believe-arent-cgi.html

Number 6. The hobbits were never CGI in those movies, all done with practical effects.

 

[Blue Sugar]

Lot at Vin Diesel as Bane. t:

 

[moviedoors]

http://www.cracked.com/article_19140_8-movie-special-effects-you-wont-believe-arent-cgi.html

Number 6. The hobbits were never CGI in those movies, all done with practical effects.

Not CGI generated, but there was plenty of complex CGI compositing going on.

 

[Doc Holliday]

http://www.cracked.com/article_19140_8-movie-special-effects-you-wont-believe-arent-cgi.html

Number 6. The hobbits were never CGI in those movies, all done with practical effects.

Some of the composite shots of the entire fellowship, such as those in Rivendell--specifically the "you shall be the Fellowship of the Ring" shot, were done with CGI. This is because all actors face the camera, and multiple heights were needed. Gimli and the hobbits were shot in front of a blue screen in one pass, because John Rhys-Davies is very tall in real life so his proportions to the hobbits were accurate, and then a second pass was done with the rest of the fellowship.

Meanwhile, scenes like Gandalf and Frodo in Bag End used a combination of body doubles, composite shots, and forced perspective with specially built sets and props.

I just watched the making-of documentary on the DVD about 4 days ago.

 

[Marx]

This notion that Nolan made "ridiculous" comic book characters work is what's ridiculous. These characters are icons and have worked very well long before Christopher Nolan EVER entered the picture.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

It makes perfect sense. Bane will be associated with the league. How does this not make sense? It makes perfect sense. It's the last film and Nolan is tying it back to Begins.

The only brain you've been smashing here is your own.

The idea that someone being Hispanic is too impractical for a movie, especially one drawn from comic books, is nothing short of hilarious. The fact that you seem to think you know what the chanting in the trailers is saying and that everyone else is dead wrong is even funnier. Your condescending attitude just tops it all off.

First off, Bane's links to the League of Shadows in no way whatsoeffingever invalidates his possible Hispanic heritage, nor does the story's "standpoint" mean that Bane MUST not be Hispanic, nor that he would be some random, pissed off Mexican. This idea so hilariously off-base that I don't even know where to begin with it. For God's sake, they picked up Bruce freakin' Wayne, a billionaire heir to the throne of one of the world's largest corporations, who just so happened to be a badass.

Do you really think they won't travel to South America to recruit one of that area's most intimidating, exceedingly dangerous men?

And regardless of what is actually said in the trailers, the older audio was damned near impossible to decipher, so you coming off so condescendingly to all of the other users here really does nothing other than make you look like a complete tool that nobody is going to take seriously, whether you're right or not. So with that, calm down, and quit acting like the speculation (which is just about all we have at this point) is insane.

However, despite your inability to realize you're not really any less stupid than how you seem to think of the "fanboys" here, I will give credit where credit is due. You pointed out that in the trailer, "Bakarrah" was one of the words uttered. Check this out:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/002.htm

This might not make any sense at first glance, but given that the League of Shadows holes up in the far East (which is somewhat near the Middle East) and has appeared (and is filming) in locations farther to the Western edge of that continent, the Qur'an could most certainly be the inspiration for the chant. If you pay close enough attention to some of the notes on that site, you'll find ones such as these (this list is more than likely not exhaustive)

2 This is the Scripture whereof there is no doubt, a guidance unto those who ward off (evil).

10 In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.

11 And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only.

12 Are not they indeed the mischief-makers ? But they perceive not.

13 And when it is said unto them: believe as the people believe, they say: shall we believe as the foolish believe ? are not they indeed the foolish ? But they know not.

14 And when they fall in with those who believe, they say: We believe; but when they go apart to their devils they declare: Lo! we are with you; verily we did but mock.

15 Allah (Himself) doth mock them, leaving them to wander blindly on in their contumacy.

16 These are they who purchase error at the price of guidance, so their commerce doth not prosper, neither are they guided.

17 Their likeness is as the likeness of one who kindleth fire, and when it sheddeth its light around him Allah taketh away their light and leaveth them in darkness, where they cannot see,

19 Or like a rainstorm from the sky, wherein is darkness, thunder and the flash of lightning. They thrust their fingers in their ears by reason of the thunder-claps, for fear of death, Allah encompasseth the disbelievers (in His guidance, His omniscience and His omnipotence).

21 O mankind! worship your Lord, Who hath created you and those before you, so that ye may ward off (evil).

22 Who hath appointed the earth a resting-place for you, and the sky a canopy; and causeth water to pour down from the sky, thereby producing fruits as food for you. And do not set up rivals to Allah when ye know (better).

24 And if ye do it not - and ye can never do it - then guard yourselves against the Fire prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is of men and stones.

I think you can figure it out from here.

In other news, the man doing push-ups in the trailer is (I believe, according to my insane ability to see through shadows and spot lips) indeed Tom Hardy. Pause it and look at the lips. That's either Angelina Jolie or Tom Hardy. And Angelina has b00bz.

To be honest, the dark, curly hair and the facial hair he has in that clip strike me even more as an attempt to make him look more Hispanic. Take that. Curly hair for the WIN.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Yes, because it's oh so realistic to have a guy whose name translates to The Demon's Head, a fellow who is called Scarecrow when in costume, and a homicidal clown named The Joker (who conveniently has no real identification whatsoever). Oh yeah... and a guy having the nickname Harvey Two-Face, who just happens to get in a situation that burns half of his face off.

Well, even if those names/M.O.s are far-fetched and goofy, how is Bane the least bit silly? Does this guy even know what bane means?

Of all names, Bane is worst you want to hear, as weird is that might sound. Think about it, if you're an innocent citizen of a city, and a criminal calling himself "Bane" is effin' your day up, what are you gonna think?

What is this guy the Bane of? Who is he the Bane of? Why is he acting as the Bane to MY city?!

Think about it for a second.

 

[LiamNeeson]

This notion that Nolan made "ridiculous" comic book characters work is what's ridiculous. These characters have been become icons and worked very well long before Christopher Nolan EVER entered the picture.

I think he meant ridiculous as a synonym for relatively unrealistic which makes his comment fairly sensible.

 

[Travesty]

I think he meant ridiculous as a synonym for relatively unrealistic which makes his comment fairly sensible.

Yes, because we all know that the name Bane sounds 1000x more ridiculous than Batman, and we all know how realistic it is for someone to be from Gotham City than it is to be from South America.