The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane

[The Question]

Sure, I am just trying to find a logical response to the possiblity of Hardy using a British accent, which I think is quite likely, since the question why a Latino actor was not cast will be more pressing if Hardy impersonates a Latino.

Again, Bane's half white on his father's side, and is usually drawn being fairly fair skinned. I don't really see a problem.

 

[the amazing fro]

Spanish accents are difficult and can come across as camp if not handled with care.

Whether Tom Hardy is good with dialects I don't know since I've only seen him do his normal accent and the American accent in black hawk down (and I can't remember whether that was good or not).

I'm sure if he is doing a British accent they can fiddle with his origin slightly to compensate.

 

[regwec]

Again, Bane's half white on his father's side, and is usually drawn being fairly fair skinned. I don't really see a problem.

I'm not talking about genetics, I am talking about language and culture, and trying to imagine how to reconcile both to a British sounding Latin ex con.

 

[The Question]

I'm not talking about genetics, I am talking about language and culture, and trying to imagine how to reconcile both to a British sounding Latin ex con.

Again, I don't see it as being a big deal. Give him a South American accent. Many South American countries are mixed enough for someone looking like Hardy to be a native with family history stretching back generations without Bane's mixed heritage. It just seems like one of those issues that's only an issue if you treat it like one.

Would it have been better if they'd gotten a South American actor? Probably, yeah. But they didn't. So they might as well still give the character the appropriate accent.

 

[D.P.]

Still, I think it should be in the movie. The addiction subplot is an interesting part of his
first appearance.

 

[regwec]

Again, I don't see it as being a big deal. Give him a South American accent. Many South American countries are mixed enough for someone looking like Hardy to be a native with family history stretching back generations without Bane's mixed heritage. It just seems like one of those issues that's only an issue if you treat it like one.

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Race seems to be a big issue for you. My suggestion ignores the issue altogether; it merely exmplains how a Spanish speaker might come to speak English in a British(ish) accent. My implication is that Hardy might foul up a South American accent, and end up being faintly offensive. It isn't unlikely.

I have never once doubted that Hardy is dark enough or Hispanics are white enough or anything like that.

 

[The Question]

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Race seems to be a big issue for you. My suggestion ignores the issue altogether; it merely exmplains how a Spanish speaker might come to speak English in a British(ish) accent. My implication is that Hardy might foul up a South American accent, and end up being faintly offensive. It isn't unlikely.

And the point I've already made is that Nolan has a very strong tendency to cst actors who are good at accents other than their native ones, as seen with Bale, Oldman, Ledger, Murphy, and Neeson (who, while not using a Middle Eastern accent, also wasn't using his native Irish accent). Odds are, if he cast Hardy for a role other than that of a British person, then at the very least he trusts in Hardy's skill with accents.

 

[Octoberist]

Has Hardy ever played a character that wasn't a Brit?

 

[Octoberist]

Has Hardy ever played a character that wasn't a Brit?

 

[The Question]

Has Hardy ever played a character that wasn't a Brit?

Yes. He played an American in Black Hawk Down.

 

[Octoberist]

OH YEAH....I forgot! Does anyone have a clip?

 

[Octoberist]

Nevermind, found it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKr2YffJqa4

I'll say it again: I think he looks more handsome now than he did back then. Not to say he was ugly back then either. I meant "Leading Man" handsome now.

 

[The Question]

OH YEAH....I forgot! Does anyone have a clip?

[YT]vKr2YffJqa4[/YT]

His accent sounds okay to me. Can't quite place it regionally, but he sounds pretty thoroughly American and I've met people with accents like that.

 

[regwec]

And the point I've already made is that Nolan has a very strong tendency to cst actors who are good at accents other than their native ones, as seen with Bale, Oldman, Ledger, Murphy, and Neeson (who, while not using a Middle Eastern accent, also wasn't using his native Irish accent). Odds are, if he cast Hardy for a role other than that of a British person, then at the very least he trusts in Hardy's skill with accents.

Those few feeble sentences, which I am beginning to wish I hadn't written, did not detail how I thought Bane could be turned into "a British person"; they outlined how I though Bane, as a Latin American character, might conceivably speak with a somewhat British accent.

If Hardy is some sort of master of South American dialects, and he can avoid cries of racism, then obviously the whole conversation is moot.

But never mind.

 

[Octoberist]

He sounds like he's from the South though maybe not your typical rural accent. It's not bad.

 

[nachtschicht]

Are there any videos of Hardy training for Bronson? I'm interested as to how he bulked up for the role.

AFAIK there's only this one from the DVD.

[YT]YOWoES2xQLw[/YT]

 

[The Question]

Those few feeble sentences, which I am beginning to wish I hadn't written, did not detail how I thought Bane could be turned into "a British person"; they outlined how I though Bane, as a Latin American character, might conceivably speak with a somewhat British accent.

I didn't say you said he should be turned into a British person. I just said that odds are it's not going to be necessary.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

The accent is an interesting thing when it comes to Bane.

He was raised in Pena Duro, which was located in the Caribbean, but also hypothetically populated by a wide variety of international criminals (just look at Bird, Zombie, and Trogg).

So wouldn't his accent be kind of strangely formed, growing up in the presense of a diverse group who probably spoke in a variety of dialects and accents?

 

[regwec]

Maybe, though Bane's dialect is rather classical, too. My much maligned notion of his self-education would explain this. But Hardy could just do an impression of a Hispanic.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I honestly don't think Nolan is going with the South American angle. I do think he will be European (Romanian possibly if they choose to film there even)

 

[Yurka]

Who knows if he will even have an accent? I really doubt we get a backstory for Bane so him having an accent would only differentiate him from other characters and be kind of an easter egg for fans. Of course it would be better if he had an accent but I think thats much less necessary than him having his venom.

 

[ALP]

Yeah Bane does not really need a back story does he? He can just come to Gotham. Maybe when asked, he'll say(or one of his goons) that he broke out of prison in another country. IF Nolan changes Bane's ethnicity(like not being from South America) then I don't see him throwing in some sort of other origin either. It'll just be like Ra's.

Anyway I wonder if Hardy will take off the mask much? Thinking about things acting wise I imagine he could be without the mask about 40%. But I always thought that would take away a bit of the mystique of the character if he's shown without the mask alot. In the comics he takes it off very rarely or we see him just from behind.

 

[Secret Fawful]

Anyway I wonder if Hardy will take off the mask much? Thinking about things acting wise I imagine he could be without the mask about 40%. But I always thought that would take away a bit of the mystique of the character if he's shown without the mask alot. In the comics he takes it off very rarely or we see him just from behind.

I don't want Bane to be like Venom in Spider-Man 3.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMds7Cd4OCA&feature=related

Do you think Hardy might have muscles like the guy in the beginning of this vid? Clearly fake muscles but also flexible so the actor can move his arms.

 

[Yurka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMds7Cd4OCA&feature=related

Do you think Hardy might have muscles like the guy in the beginning of this vid? Clearly fake muscles but also flexible so the actor can move his arms.

I sure hope not, I feel I can always tell when someones wearing a muscle suit or something similar. It just is obvious that its really fake for me when you dont see the muscles actually moving. I hope its either an extremely muscular Hardy and camera tricks, or its a body-double/cgi.