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The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane

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The test of Bale's Batman voice would be if there was a scene in the Batcave where he made a phone call as Batman, but with his cowl off. Would the voice seem absurd with Bale's face behind it?

On topic, will Bane's voice have to be deeper than Batman's? As a much bigger man, it will seem strange if it isn't.
 
The test of Bale's Batman voice would be if there was a scene in the Batcave where he made a phone call as Batman, but with his cowl off. Would the voice seem absurd with Bale's face behind it?

On topic, will Bane's voice have to be deeper than Batman's? As a much bigger man, it will seem strange if it isn't.

Deeper is not my concern, proper South American accent is. I won't flip-my-**** if Hardy doesn't use one; but if he tries and fails, I will be soniamdissappoint.
 
I'm quoting this from the previous iteration of this thread:
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I think Bane is going to break Gordon's back. There simply is not enough time to sufficiently show the whole Knightfall arc of Bruce being defeated and then coming back to face Bane. We've got to get enough time for Catwoman, all the existing characters. It's too cluttered to have Batman actually be 'broken'.
But Gordon is a different story in my opinion. And in some of the newer comics he does walk with a cane, does he not? Sure, that was from a bullet wound. But what if Nolan changed things a little?

I think having Bane destroy such a beloved character would be preferable to trying to fit in this massive rdemeptive storyline. This film is about Batman redeeming himself, whereas Knightfall is him at his lowest ebb. The Joker already dragged Batman to his lowest point, it's time he went on the offensive.

I think it's perfectly possible to produce a reasonable facsimile of Knightfall, appropriately Nolanized. I don't think it's realistic to say "This film is about Batman rising, so he can't go any lower because that's not rising." What matters is the arc, and where it takes him in the end--not where it puts him in the middle of the film.

As Batman11 and I were discussing in the Broken Bat thread, Batman's in a bad place: with Rachel gone there's no normal life for him to go back to, and as a result he's gone deeper into his life as Batman, because Batman is all he has left in his life. If you take that away from him with an injury that threatens to put him out of commission forever (though, realistically, not as serious as the injury in Knightfall, which required magic powers to heal), that's got to be the worst thing in the world for Bruce.

That's going to force him to confront that this life of violence was all he had in his life, which is not a healthy way to be regardless. If you've got Selina around during his recovery, there's someone who can bring him back around to a more balanced, healthier way of thinking. If Catwoman has one important thing to teach Batman, it's that it's okay to look out for yourself once in a while.

Nolan is going to do his thing and it's sure to be completely different from what I've suggested here; this is just one of the ways I think it can be made to work. The real obstacle isn't about fitting so much stuff in; people said the same thing about Two-Face and that worked out fine (naturally, some disagree). I'm not worried baout these elements being tied together in a way that flows and make sense; TDK proved that's something these people excel at.

The real obstacle, in my mind, is injuring Batman in such a way that the audience can believe two things: first, that this injury could end his career as Batman; second, that the injury is something that, with enough effort, he can recover from and return to that career. That's the tricky part.
 
I'm not sure how many more times I can read this phrase on this board before I rip my ears off.

Maybe we should go with plain stupid then. A tube that goes into your head and just dangles around. How often has that thing been cut? And anyone can pull and tug on it. I really hope Nolan has a better idea.
 
The test of Bale's Batman voice would be if there was a scene in the Batcave where he made a phone call as Batman, but with his cowl off. Would the voice seem absurd with Bale's face behind it?

On topic, will Bane's voice have to be deeper than Batman's? As a much bigger man, it will seem strange if it isn't.

In the Knightfall novelization, O'Neil described it as lighter and "almost musical." Personally, I thought Henry Silva (BTAS) had the perfect Bane voice; he didn't sound like some gruff bruiser, but his voice wasn't so light that it was comedic. He was a calm, well-spoken nigh-gentlemen who was also going to destroy you. That's the butter zone.

I think Hardy will find something interesting to do, regardless of the approach. He did interesting voicework as Shinzon in Star Trek: Nemesis (too bad the movie was crap).
 
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That's what I love about Bane. A big, muscle-bound monster, who can and will break you in two and yet is so well spoken and literate.
 
Hardy's voice on Bane could be interesting. Although I'm not expecting anything drastic.

And at this point, I don't blame people for finding it hard to believe that the brokeb back thing won't happen. But who knows? Nolan could very well surprise us.

I don't think any of us were expecting the bat pod to come out of the Tumbler did we? I remember people were joking of the idea even. Granted, it's not as out there as a broken back, but Nolan can still surprise us, which I wouldn't mind.
 
It just seems kind of ridiculous that since Bane broke Batman's back in a comic book logic dictates that he will automatically do the same in the movie that he will be featured in.

Bane is Batman's Doomsday. Would you bring Doomsday into a Superman film and not kill Superman?
 
1. Tubes are unrealistic. Way too unrealistic.

yes, tubes are so unrealistic. i cant believe people actually believe they exist. i cant believe that the tube im looking at right now as i type this thinks its more realistic than a billionaire dressed as a vigilante bat fighting ninjas and clown faced criminals.

stupid tubes.

2. BB already showed how integral drugs can be to a Batman storyline. I think (and this is my opinion) the League of Shadows will play a role in introducing Venom to Gotham. What better way to create chaos and undo Gotham than by turning citizens into rabid, strong-armed meatheads?

sweet, lets do a complete re-hash of batman begins.

3. I think we will ABSOLUTELY see Bane's muscles expand, as in the comics. Nolan showed with Two-Face that he doesn't shy away from the gritty characteristics of some characters.

tubes, unrealistic. expanding insta-muscles, totally realistic.

Oh, and Bane won't break Batman's back. But he'll definitely kick his ass and put him in the hospital. :wow:

cool beans. you must have read the script to know this to be fact.
 
sweet, lets do a complete re-hash of batman begins.
I don't remember ultra-strong roided-up freako-villains in Begins. Where was that? Oh, I know why I don't remember it. Because it wasn't there. I can do this sarcastic rebuttal stuff too! It's so much fun. Damn, what a rush! I'm the man! :woot:
 
reg,

Bale did the Batman voice as Bruce during the party scene (TDK) perfectly...
 
I don't remember ultra-strong roided-up freako-villains in Begins. Where was that? Oh, I know why I don't remember it. Because it wasn't there. I can do this sarcastic rebuttal stuff too! It's so much fun. Damn, what a rush! I'm the man! :woot:

the league of shadows drugging gotham into chaos....you think people are stupid enough that they're gonna be fooled that this is a new idea just because they replaced fear gas with venom? you think nolan and co. are so unimaginative they they couldnt come up with something better than ripping themselves off?
 
Bane is Batman's Doomsday. Would you bring Doomsday into a Superman film and not kill Superman?

See I think that's an insult to Bane, who is not just some kill, crush, destroy monster. He's a lot more complicated than that, a lot more intelligent than that, and capable of more than just the one 'breaks his back' plot.

Doomsday can't have another plot, because his ONLY capability as a character is to smash things to bits, and then see Superman and decide to smash him to bits. There isn't another level.
 
Hello all! I wanted to say a few things about Hardy as Bane. Tom Hardy is an amazing actor, and I became a fan after watching him in Inception and RocknRolla.

A couple of things. I do not want Bane to have the same build that he had in the comics. I'm not sure how I can explain this. I would like him to have a "lean" muscular look, like Ivan Drago did on the Rocky 4. Obviously I don't want him to be ultra skinny, and I understand that the body he had in his movie Bronson he accomplished it by doing only workouts he was able to perform out of a prison cell, but I just don't want Bane to look like one of those old school luchadors actors. I understand that it would make more sense for him to have the same build he had in Bronson though.

I would also like Hardy to have a spanish accent. One that's difficult to pinpoint where it's from, only that you know it's "south american". That's about it.
 
Gotcha. You want him not to be Bronson 'bulky' but to be 'cut' with defined muscles?
 
It would be great if he could get totally ripped, after he gets back to Bronson size. That would be totally enough for me.
 
the league of shadows drugging Gotham into chaos....you think people are stupid enough that they're gonna be fooled that this is a new idea just because they replaced fear gas with venom? you think nolan and co. are so unimaginative they they couldn't come up with something better than ripping themselves off?

A thing can't also be something that is the opposite of itself. Fear gas is as far from Venom as can be humanly possible in the world of Batman Mythos drugs. The only way it would be a rehash is if they were using fear gas in the plot again. Also, not all rehashes are bad, mate. Would you have complained if Nolan had reused Heath's Joker as the main villain of the third film as well?
 
Gotham really shouldn't get plunged into chaos again. If Bane manages to seize control over Gotham's organized crime, everyone should be so afraid of Bane, that criminals do their activities exactly as he wants.

As a result random crime rate might go down. Underneath, Gotham is still corrupt, but normal people might feel saver, because criminals don't operate as openly anymore. It's all more organized and effective.
 
On topic, will Bane's voice have to be deeper than Batman's? As a much bigger man, it will seem strange if it isn't.

Bane's would be more booming and powerful, like the leader of the Hawk men in Flash Gordon.
I imagine he talks the way kings do when they have turkey drumsticks in their hands.

Bale is like a shadow growl.
 
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reg,

Bale did the Batman voice as Bruce during the party scene (TDK) perfectly...

Yes he did...and it was FREAKIN' awesome! I loved seeing Bruce Wayne become Batman and the voice change...
 
Bane's would be more booming and powerful, like the leader of the Hawk men in Flash Gordon. I imagine he talks the way kings do when they have turkey drumsticks in their hands.

Bale is like a shadow growl.

I really like the way he was protrayed in the animated series. I would like to hear a thick accent, and his speech to be very sophisticated, never using strong men cliches.
 
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