TheVileOne
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Jason Bourne's not based on a comic book.
That's not a comic book trilogy though.
Thought Cap 1 was pretty poor. Not necessarily bad, just..... meh.
But what about Spider-Man and Nolan Batman?
Agreed, any trilogy that includes the origin of Captain America already has a disadvantage going in.
*Sigh*
Another comic book movie this summer that left me feeling disappointed & underwhelmed. This movie has a lot in common with BvS's problems in the sense that the actual ideas behind the movie(s) were very good yet I don't feel have been executed well favoring visuals & quantity over quality.
Not a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination, just, much like BvS, disappointed with a lot of elements. Spiderman's introduction being one, felt rushed, unnecessary to any part of the story & thus was a giant timewaste, a gimmick to plant more people in seats. It was cool as **** to see his fight scenes at the airport, but his introductory scene with Stark was disappointing & I'm just disappointed such a popular character felt so rushed into the movie.
Movie was 6.5/10 for me just about better than BvS, but for me both have been disappointments, neither warrant multiple viewings in theaters. Thus far Deadpool's comfortably been the best 'superhero' movie of the year quite comfortably.
See I find Deadpool overrated and BvS was just a mess. CW is just better in terms of story, characters, plot, editing and action. Deadpool was cool and had one decent action piece but once I saw it a second time it really didn't hit as much. It just seemed average to me. To each their own I suppose.
I'd like to try 4D one of these days.9/10 too much to say... I will say this.... SEE IT IN 4D!!!!!! It is off the hook! Spidey shoots webs at you and you FEEL them!!!!
YEah I am kinda disappointed.
First things first. Is this a bad movie? No. Not even close.
Positives:
-Of course the performances were great. Good things in the future for Black Panther and Spider-Man. Special mention to Ant-Man too who actually caused my whole theater to clap during his stand out scene
-The airport action scene was well done.
-The actual way the story progressed was really well done. The Russo's did very well. I mean on paper I would not expect that to work
-The last third was really good, dramatic
This movie had all the classic Marvel shortcomings. Gripes in order:
-The tone was bad. I like humor and jokes, but sometimes it's too much.Too many quips and humor and while I give Spider-Man, Ant-Man and to a lesser extent Iron Man a pass; there were a lot of times I was like "Ok guys. Take it back a few notches" especially during the airport scene. That's why I really liked the last third in Siberia. This is a movie where friends are essentially and literally pointing guns at each other and firing. More Avengers shouldve gotten injured and no moments like "We're still friends right?" "Depends on how hard you hit me"
-Im gonna get flack for this, but honestly Spider-Man didn't need to be in this movie at all. I loved Holland. Can't wait for Homecoming (although I hate that title) But dude was so shoehorned in there. And I get that Stark gives him the suit, but Spider-Man couldve been used to show switching of sides or used more dramatically even in the short time he had him. It made him seem kinda stupid when Cap and him were talking. (Side note: I know this is gonna be met with emoji's and corny, snarky remarks but it's so weird seeing a MILF Aunt May. Im fine with her being younger but she looks like she's ready to hit the runway and that's weird to me. Didn't change my opinion of the movie but it was just a thought. I did like that "Leaning against the fourth wall" joke of "Aunt's come in all different looks")
-Pacing was off. I was kinda bored or was thinking "man this is a long movie" at a few parts
-Zemo was eh. I mean his motivation was good, performance wise he was ok. But idk he still came off bland to me. His plan kinda seemed to be way more complicated then it needed to be
-I don't think the hand the hand scenes were that good this time. I have to check if it's the same editor because there were so many cuts compared the TWS when it came to the hand to hand fights
-Some of the time they used to set up Spider-Man couldve been better served showing motivations for characters like Hawkeye and especially Ant-Man on why they chose the side they did. Hawkeye from what Ive seen from the previous movies it seems like he wouldve sided with Tony. Unless he just chose because of his "debt"
-The "love story" was bad. It reminded me of how things went down between Iron Man 1 and Iron Man 2. Although the moment right after the kiss, had me laughing pretty hard.
But just Sharon in general I wish they did more with her. I just feel like they wanted to move her story forward but didn't really know how to in a good way. (Another side note: very weird they decided to include her in the promo art. I knew she wouldnt be in the movie much, but that mightve played with my expectations)
All in all, this was a good movie but I am not wowed by it. I am seeing it with a friend again on Sunday so I'll see if anything changes.
7.5 (maybe 7.75)/10
Misc thoughts that didnt affect anything
-How in the hell did they do that young Tony scene near the beginning?
-Wouldve loved to see a scene at the end about where [BLACKOUT]Sharon and Widow ended up. Because weren't they both implicated in helping Cap? Sharon wasn't caught red handed but Widow was.[/BLACKOUT]
-Damn man they [BLACKOUT]crippled Rhodey[/BLACKOUT]
-Really shouldve included that mid credits scene into the movie proper
-Weird that Alfre Woodard is playing the different characters in the MCU (Netflix and here) especially when her role in here could've been played by any actress
-I mean I get that people are emotionally devastated and they aren't thinking rationally, but it's a pet peeve of mine when people are like "When you were saving the world, my (insert important person here) died!" I always want a hero to say: "WELL IF I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WE'D ALL BE DEAD"
-The whole handling of Tony and [BLACKOUT]Pepper[/BLACKOUT] was stupid.
-[BLACKOUT]You know as much crap as I give killing off heroes just to bring them back. I really think this movie could've used a hero death[/BLACKOUT]
I'm speechless. Without a doubt my favorite superhero movie ever.
Every character was exceptionally utilized. I'm struggling to think of someone who didn't get something satisfying to do.
How about Spider-Man hey?
I teared up. That's the Spider-man I've been waiting for.