What is DC Entertainment doing? What is their plan? - Part 1

[Dev-El]

I just don't see Warner bro's making three superhero films a year considering there track record. There plans for building the Dc cinematic universe just seems all over the place. Sure we know BvS Doj and justice league are on the way, but it just feels like Warner bro's is just throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks. I can understand that Dc wants to be different from Marvel, but why not borrow there formula that way we would have Man of Steel,Wonder Woman, The Flash and BvS leading up to justice league like it should be. Look at all the success Marvel's been having, if it ain't broke don't fix it Warner bro's.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

"Like it should be"

You heard the man! Wolverine, Magneto, Xavier, Gambit, Beast, Cyclops, Phoenix and Storm solo films before X-Men: Apocalypse.

Also, absolutely no one understands The Avengers because there is ten hours of essential viewing to go with it.

 

[Rorschach2012]

TBH, i think their plan is pretty perfect. Aside from Shazam, this schedule is way more than i ever hoped for. It's crazy that we're getting so many DC movies in such a small amount of time. Really this is a dream come true.

I'm DC through and through, it looks like DC fans are finally getting their day.

 

[Tony Stark]

This is just the wrong way to go about things. There really isn't enough time to fully develop these films in a 2 year period. About the only good news out of this is they will get a proper sequel to Man of Steel.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

The Dark Knight was made over a two year period, Avengers in less time, the script was being written during filming.

 

[metaphysician]

Would proving you wrong be, say, these films all performing at the BO in the same range as the Marvel Phase One films, give or take $20-30 million?

Hmm. If you add "and get roughly comparable critical response, on roughly comparable budget," sure. That's what keeps Man of Steel from being a promising start: it made Iron Man money, sure, but it reviewed terribly and cost a lot more to make. If WB managed to release 2-3 movies that get at least in the 70s on RT and make triple their budget, that would be a promising sign.

 

[Iceman]

WW solo, MoS sequel and Flash/GL teamup are all things I really want. JL will be crazy, the one I'm anticipating most. Sandman is a worthwhile project but Shazam I'd rather they used those resources elsewhere for now.

 

[flash13]

The thing is, some of these films (Shazam, Sandman) have probably already been in the early stages of development. And there are three years for JL, Wonder Woman, and Flash/GL. That's plenty of time and more than some superhero movies that turned out awesome had. As a DC fan first this plan appeals to me more than the solo films leading up to Justice League one would.

 

[flash13]

The Dark Knight was made over a two year period, Avengers in less time, the script was being written during filming.

Yes, history has shown that time does not always equal a better superhero movie and less time does not always equal a bad one. Also, X-Men: First Class.

I just don't see Warner bro's making three superhero films a year considering there track record. There plans for building the Dc cinematic universe just seems all over the place. Sure we know BvS Doj and justice league are on the way, but it just feels like Warner bro's is just throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks. I can understand that Dc wants to be different from Marvel, but why not borrow there formula that way we would have Man of Steel,Wonder Woman, The Flash and BvS leading up to justice league like it should be. Look at all the success Marvel's been having, if it ain't broke don't fix it Warner bro's.

Who would have thought that Marvel would be where they are now before Iron Man given their track record up to that point (not counting Sony and Fox).

 

[metaphysician]

Also, I can't believe I didn't notice it already, but. . . no Batman movie? I don't believe it for a second. The only way they aren't making a new Batman movie before 2019, is if Affleck Batman sucks and no one likes him. And if that proves the case, they probably are cancelling a bunch of other movies, too.

 

[metaphysician]

Who would have thought that Marvel would be where they are now before Iron Man given their track record up to that point (not counting Sony and Fox).

Nobody. And we were right to be skeptical then, too. We just were lucky to be *proven* wrong. Which is what we should wait for here: proof.

Or: WB? Show me the movies.

 

[Loki882]

There's an old saying about "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." Comic book fans tend to fall into this category. No matter how many times they've been proven wrong in the past, they just keep doing the same thing. They never learn.

 

[Tec15]

There's an old saying about "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." Comic book fans tend to fall into this category. No matter how many times they've been proven wrong in the past, they just keep doing the same thing. They never learn.

Not that it ever stops them from mouthing of in the future. They'll just go from "Waah, why isn't DC announcing a whole bunch of movies NOW? They'll never catch up to Marvel waah" to "WTF, DC can never release that many movies in that time. They're just rushing things and throwing **** at the wall in a desperate attempt to catch up to Marvel." without a hint of irony or self awareness.

 

[Cain]

There's an old saying about "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." Comic book fans tend to fall into this category. No matter how many times they've been proven wrong in the past, they just keep doing the same thing. They never learn.

That is exactly why I rarely even post here anymore let alone even look at other movie sites and message boards.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I think we'll get Justice League 2 in May 2019

 

[BoredGuy]

to answer the thread question, what is DC's plan??
Throwin' s**t at the wall, that's their plan
lol

 

[HighFivingMF]

Hmm. If you add "and get roughly comparable critical response, on roughly comparable budget," sure. That's what keeps Man of Steel from being a promising start: it made Iron Man money, sure, but it reviewed terribly and cost a lot more to make. If WB managed to release 2-3 movies that get at least in the 70s on RT and make triple their budget, that would be a promising sign.

The minute studios base their decisions on a produce-themed ranking system is the minute film dies.

 

[Panthro]

to answer the thread question, what is DC's plan??
Throwin' s**t at the wall, that's their plan
lol

Yeah pretty much

 

[Docker2.0]

to answer the thread question, what is DC's plan??
Throwin' s**t at the wall, that's their plan
lol

Pretty much and I can't believe that people are getting their hopes up of WB/DC making all these movies in this short period of time. It ain't happening. They have been saying this for the past 3-6 years and now we are suppose to believe they mean it this time? I believe BVS is being made, I actually believe Shazam is being made. But everything else I won't believe until I see it with my own eyes. They have said and done this almost every year but yet people believe it.

 

[jmc]

Also, I can't believe I didn't notice it already, but. . . no Batman movie? I don't believe it for a second. The only way they aren't making a new Batman movie before 2019, is if Affleck Batman sucks and no one likes him. And if that proves the case, they probably are cancelling a bunch of other movies, too.

The one thing that makes me think this list may be true is strangely enough the lack of a Batman solo film. You've got to ask yourself whether Affleck wants to dedicate the next couple of years of his life doing Batman movies given he wants to write and direct his own stuff as well. It could very well be a case of him lining up for team up films only because it wouldn't require as much work.

 

[DA_Champion]

The one thing that makes me think this list may be true is strangely enough the lack of a Batman solo film. You've got to ask yourself whether Affleck wants to dedicate the next couple of years of his life doing Batman movies given he wants to write and direct his own stuff as well. It could very well be a case of him lining up for team up films only because it wouldn't require as much work.

JMC,

Yu have been arguing passionately for months that you expected a limited DC cinematic universe, almost entirely focused on Batman and Superman.

What do you think might have changed, such that the underlying assumptions n your reasonable arguments ended up not holding?

 

[DA_Champion]

Re: Affleck-directed Batman solo movies.

It would be a good career move for Affleck. Affleck is a good director but movies like "Gone Baby Gone" are never going to gross 1 billion dollars. If he has the opportunity to make a billion dollar film, he should. It will give him more creative freedom, and if he asks for a profit share it will help further guarantee his family's future, maybe even help him finance his own films.

 

[Iceman]

I think we'll get Justice League 2 in May 2019

Can I pay in advance?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Let's keep in mind none of this is at all actually confirmed. Calibrate expectations on all sides.

 

[jmc]

JMC,

Yu have been arguing passionately for months that you expected a limited DC cinematic universe, almost entirely focused on Batman and Superman.

What do you think might have changed, such that the underlying assumptions n your reasonable arguments ended up not holding?

Well for one we don't know how accurate this story is, so it's still anyone's guess as to whether it's true. That said, if there is truth to this it probably means there's a fundamental change in business strategy for WB in general, it may mean they are actually looking at what Disney are doing with acquiring intellectual properties and wanting to keep pace and even challenge their hold on the all important 18-30 demographic. That would help explain the May 6 2016 date feud with Marvel, WB might be trying to stamp their mark and make a claim as being a studio who also plays to that audience.

The thing that gives me pause though is being that aggressive doesn't really make that much sense for WB because they are one of the most profitable studios going around despite a lack of superheroes. If we're getting up to 3 superhero films a year that's two less movies of other genres we're getting from them, two different audiences not being catered too, two less potential opportunities for profit. A cheap $40-50 million comedy movie might be an unexpected hit and make 10-12 times it's production budget back giving the studio more return for its investment than a superhero movie where budgets blow out to over $200 million regularly. At this point I'm not sure where things may be headed, I'll will be interested to see what the reasoning from WB would be to be this aggressive if it turns out true.