What is DC Entertainment doing? What is their plan? - Part 1

[KRYPTON INC.]

I would think all the ancillaries are what motivates a studio to get into the franchise game. I don't care if toy sales are down, if you have a hit property that the young'ns want to play with and as they will sell even if across the board toys sales lag. You got clothing, posters, video games, other spin off media. It's not just Harry Potter films that made J.K. Rowling her fortune but all the other product that spun off from it.

 

[Micromind]

Also, I can't believe I didn't notice it already, but. . . no Batman movie? I don't believe it for a second. The only way they aren't making a new Batman movie before 2019, is if Affleck Batman sucks and no one likes him. And if that proves the case, they probably are cancelling a bunch of other movies, too.

I have said that Ben Affleck was not interested in doing the solo Batman movies, he wanted a different take on the character, Batman in a team-up movie is what he preferred, so that he does not have to carry the movie.

This was also a way to get Batman in a team-up movie without rebooting the character.

This could have been the reason why WB green-lighted a TV series "Gotham".

I don't expect Affleck to star in a solo Batman movie. For those posters who complained that WB was just interested in making Batman movies and nothing else, this news (lack of solo Batman movies) should be a good thing.

 

[spider-neil]

I have said that Ben Affleck was not interested in doing the solo Batman movies, he wanted a different take on the character, Batman in a team-up movie is what he preferred, so that he does not have to carry the movie.

This was also a way to get Batman in a team-up movie without rebooting the character.

This could have been the reason why WB green-lighted a TV series "Gotham".

I don't expect Affleck to star in a solo Batman movie. For those posters who complained that WB was just interested in making Batman movies and nothing else, this news (lack of solo Batman movies) should be a good thing.

Rather see a solo Batman movie than a Shazam movie. What's 'that' all about?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

It's all about reaching out to every group possible to make a buck.

 

[Cain]

Pretty much and I can't believe that people are getting their hopes up of WB/DC making all these movies in this short period of time. It ain't happening. They have been saying this for the past 3-6 years and now we are suppose to believe they mean it this time? I believe BVS is being made, I actually believe Shazam is being made. But everything else I won't believe until I see it with my own eyes. They have said and done this almost every year but yet people believe it.

Maybe because we aren't stuck in the past and live in the present?

Maybe because some of us remember Kevin Tsujihara and Diane Nelson talking about how DC is a priority for WB now both on TV and film; and how they announced a slate of TV shows and that they had 9 movies outside of BvS in the works less than 3 months ago?

I swear it's like people's deduction skills take a hit on the net every single time despite the facts being all over said internet.

 

[Cain]

Rather see a solo Batman movie than a Shazam movie. What's 'that' all about?

It's about there never being a superhero wish fulfillment movie before despite the foundation of superheroes being wish fulfillment. Nothing more relatable to kids than a child who actually becomes a superhero in this age of superhero popularity peaking all over the place.

People scream that they want variety in superhero movies then when it's possibly presented to them they just scream "ahhh go away!" like a vampire staring at the sun. No matter what WB does they can't win with most of y'all.

 

[Loki882]

Agreed. Fans just have to complain about SOMETHING. Batman's been my favorite character for as long I can remember. However, he's had NINE theatrical-released movies. Most of the other DC characters, including the big ones like WW, Aquaman, Flash, etc haven't even gotten ONE. And Batman just had a huge film trilogy a few years ago. He doesn't need a solo movie AGAIN so quickly. It's time to give those other character their chance, FINALLY! Batman can always appear in some of those movies.

 

[Docker2.0]

Maybe because we aren't stuck in the past and live in the present?

Maybe because some of us remember Kevin Tsujihara and Diane Nelson talking about how DC is a priority for WB now both on TV and film; and how they announced a slate of TV shows and that they had 9 movies outside of BvS in the works less than 3 months ago?

I swear it's like people's deduction skills take a hit on the net every single time despite the facts being all over said internet.

They have been saying this for years! You can say I'm stuck in the past all you want but when someone constantly cries wolf, don't expect the cavalry to believe you when the wolf finally shows up. Plus that many films in that short of a time when they've really been hesitant to release anything but Batman films, sorry but this slate makes no sense but I'd be glad to be proven wrong.

 

[The Guard]

Maybe now people will shut up about Warner Brothers not having a plan and just complain about said plan.

 

[Cain]

They have been saying this for years! You can say I'm stuck in the past all you want but when someone constantly cries wolf, don't expect the cavalry to believe you when the wolf finally shows up. Plus that many films in that short of a time when they've really been hesitant to release anything but Batman films, sorry but this slate makes no sense but I'd be glad to be proven wrong.

Where you go wrong is that you're comparing WB under the Robinov administration (which divided all the DC IP's amongst competing production companies & didn't really value the potential of the DC properties) to DC under Tsujihara who was not only always a proponent of doing more with the DC IP's but is backing his talk with actual walk (I.E.: giving DC a bigger presence on TV like he promised way back when he became the top guy at WB).

It's like 2 completely different companies. I'm surprised people on SHH of all places who I expect to be informed about that stuff since we've been talking about it for years still don't get that.

We're talking about a WB where the exec consolidated all the DC movie rights under one roof and is moving DC over to Burbank so that they could have a more organic sense of collaboration with WB.

We're talking about the exec who not only created an initiative for them to have a stronger presence in live action TV with their IP's and is delivering but is doing the same with the movie division as well which we could see by the way BvS is developing. All in just less than 3 years time he's been head of WB. Anything WB did years ago has no relevance to any of that.

Also WB releases more features in a year than any other movie studio. Including many big budget features. I'm sure they could afford to put out 3 DC based movies in one year.

 

[Docker2.0]

Where you go wrong is that you're comparing WB under the Robinov administration (which divided all the DC IP's amongst competing production companies & didn't really value the potential of the DC properties) to DC under Tsujihara who was not only always a proponent of doing more with the DC IP's but is backing his talk with actual walk (I.E.: giving DC a bigger presence on TV like he promised way back when he became the top guy at WB).

It's like 2 completely different companies. I'm surprised people on SHH of all places who I expect to be informed about that stuff since we've been talking about it for years still don't get that.

We're talking about a WB where the exec consolidated all the DC movie rights under one roof and is moving DC over to Burbank so that they could have a more organic sense of collaboration with WB.

We're talking about the exec who not only created an initiative for them to have a stronger presence in live action TV with their IP's and is delivering but is doing the same with the movie division as well which we could see by the way BvS is developing. All in just less than 3 years time he's been head of WB. Anything WB did years ago has no relevance to any of that.

Also WB releases more features in a year than any other movie studio. Including many big budget features. I'm sure they could afford to put out 3 DC based movies in one year.

As I've stated earlier, due to their history, I won't believe it until I see it. It's no knock on the new dude but we've heard this same song before until they start to dance, it's when I and others will believe. I understand why you are so positive but their history...........it is what it is.

 

[Cain]

It's not even about being positive (I didn't even like Man of Steel). It's about being realistic. Comic con hasn't even happened yet and people are quick to jump to conclusions because of mistakes from a previous administration? when we have already seen results from the WB exec who said DC IP's will become a priority across all media (movies, video games, TV etc.) when he stepped in and has actually delivered on that promise so far? where they do that at?

I know most people in the world lack any type of foresight but when I see a guy who had a vision actually executing that vision? there's really no room for me to doubt him. No worries though I'll be here when more members of the JL cast are revealed at Comic Con and many people end up eating crow.

 

[Docker2.0]

It's not even about being positive (I didn't even like Man of Steel). It's about being realistic. Comic con hasn't even happened yet and people are quick to jump to conclusions because of mistakes from a previous administration? when we have already seen results from the WB exec who said DC IP's will become a priority across all media (movies, video games, TV etc.) when he stepped in and has actually delivered on that promise so far? where they do that at?

I know most people in the world lack any type of foresight but when I see a guy who had a vision actually executing that vision? there's really no room for me to doubt him. No worries though I'll be here when more members of the JL cast are revealed at Comic Con and many people end up eating crow.

And if it doesn't? Well.............there's no doubt a JLA movie is happening. It's the other movies that I kind of doubt will. There's evidence of JLA but not the others.

 

[Cain]

No evidence? hasn't Shazam been in development hell for almost a decade now? didn't they announce Joseph Gordon-Levitt and David Goyer as the star and writer of Sandman a while back?

Personally I would wait for DC's comic con panel to actually happen first before saying anything else.

 

[Docker2.0]

No evidence? hasn't Shazam been in development hell for almost a decade now? didn't they announce Joseph Gordon-Levitt and David Goyer as the star and writer of Sandman a while back?

Personally I would wait for DC's comic con panel to actually happen first before saying anything else.

Wouldn't that back up my claim more than yours? WB seems to have a bunch of DC properties in that location but yet that some how proves that WB will finally make them?

 

[Cain]

*sighs*

once again...

Personally I would wait for DC's comic con panel to actually happen first before saying anything else.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

You would think that actually having one TV show (ARROW) in it's second season that is in tone close to source material and takes the care to mine DCU continuity, plus three more series spread over three other broadcast networks (GOTHAM on FOX, CONSTANTINE on NBC and THE FLASH on CW, home of ARROW) would count for something in regards to letting the fans know that WB has been planning to exploit it's DCU properties, but nope... Fan's believe what they want, yet claim the opposite. le sigh

 

[Micromind]

Lot of things that happened in the past could be attributed to the people in-charge, the companies are not living entities, they only function according to the wishes of their top executives.

Whatever approach WB had in past could be attributed to decisions taken by Jeff Robinov and Alan Horn, now a new team is incharge, they have already shown some signs of using DC properties in the form of various TV shows like Arrow, Flash, Gotham, iZombie and Constantine.

Interestingly, Alan Horn has now moved over to Disney. Imagine what will happen if (I'm speculating here..) Kevin Feige is replaced by Jeff Robinov, now if such a thing happens would Marvel get the same success ? NO, Why ? That's because the companies function according to whatever plan their top execs have, companies cannot think for themselves.

WB is not an exception, change the top management people, their policy changes.

 

[Tec15]

Where you go wrong is that you're comparing WB under the Robinov administration (which divided all the DC IP's amongst competing production companies & didn't really value the potential of the DC properties) to DC under Tsujihara who was not only always a proponent of doing more with the DC IP's but is backing his talk with actual walk (I.E.: giving DC a bigger presence on TV like he promised way back when he became the top guy at WB).

It's like 2 completely different companies. I'm surprised people on SHH of all places who I expect to be informed about that stuff since we've been talking about it for years still don't get that.

Well, you are talking to a guy who was under the impression that DC actually stopped publishing Batman for a while after "Batman and Robin" bombed.... so yeah....

 

[CaptainWagner]

Knowing David Goyer's involvement with B.v.S. and rumored involvement
with the Justice League I really hope he doesn't have to much control over the DC film universe, or Martian Manhunters' big screen future may be doomed:

http://robot6.comicbookresources.co...to-a-porn-star-calls-martian-manhunter-goofy/

 

[The Guard]

Haven't been here in a few days. Have people shut about about WB not having a plan for DC Comics characters on film yet?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Haven't been here in a few days. Have people shut about about WB not having a plan for DC Comics characters on film yet?

People will always find something new to whine about.

 

[Zionite]

Knowing David Goyer's involvement with B.v.S. and rumored involvement
with the Justice League I really hope he doesn't have to much control over the DC film universe, or Martian Manhunters' big screen future may be doomed:

http://robot6.comicbookresources.co...to-a-porn-star-calls-martian-manhunter-goofy/

It worries me when an author with a clear bias for or againts a character is in change of writing hero teamups. It always Lead to some messed up writing.

For example,Geoff Johns had Hal largely replace Supermans Role on the JL team in the opening New 52 arc-you know because of his Hal Hard on.Superman was relegated to a Hulk like Role,so was Wonderwoman
If Goyer writes JL,Manhunter is Fooked.
What we need is a Whedon writer,One who writes and Loves all the characters and doesnt Screw them one in favor of another

 

[Steyin]

Haven't been here in a few days. Have people shut about about WB not having a plan for DC Comics characters on film yet?

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[Zionite]

You would think that actually having one TV show (ARROW) in it's second season that is in tone close to source material and takes the care to mine DCU continuity, plus three more series spread over three other broadcast networks (GOTHAM on FOX, CONSTANTINE on NBC and THE FLASH on CW, home of ARROW) would count for something in regards to letting the fans know that WB has been planning to exploit it's DCU properties, but nope... Fan's believe what they want, yet claim the opposite. le sigh

Well if they were all in the same cohesive continuity,then yeah it would make things seem planned