The Dark Knight Rises What's Joker up too?

[DACrowe]

Well Joker obviously went to Arkham. Arkham is in the Narrows (or what's left of it) in Nolan's series and that's separated by a bridge from the main Manhattan-like island of Gotham. Bane blew all the bridges but one and freed the prisoners of Blackgate and not Arkham. So, Joker had to watch from his padded cell.

I do imagine if Ledger was alive he would have been the judge and even would have had a scene of Batman just knocking him out in a half minute and leaving him for the cops before moving on. Oh well.

I was fine with how it played in the movie.

 

[doobie]

At the end of TDK, Joker got moved to an asylum in Coast City. He escaped and becomes their clown prince of crime, but kept a friendship with a female cop who was interested in figuring him out and trying to see the good in him.

However, a new tough police chief is cleaning up the town, and he uses Joker's cop friend to lure him to a warehouse, where he beats him in front of all the other cops, thus weakinging Joker's status in front of them forever.

He then takes Joker to his secret cliff top prison out of town, where he leaves him with a TV, so Joker has to watch in horror how clean and ordered the town is becoming under the Chief.

Joker finds out from the other prisoners that there is one way out back onto land, but you have to cross stepping stones over lava. You have to cross them in a random and chaotic way, and no one has achieved it yet, because people try to go in a straight logical line which is the trap. But Joker manages it and emerges revitalised with new hope.

He goes back to Coast City and with his new vigor, finds his old sidekick Harley and beats the police chief in front of the town. But there's a twist - the chief re-habilitated Harley, and she stabs Joker in the back.

Luckily they are blown away by a blast. Joker looks up - it's his hot cop friend - she can't resist being crazy like him anymore, and has cut her face to match him so they can run away together.

The story ends with Maroni (having survived the crash in TDK) sitting outisde a bar in Madrid. "That Joker kid was so wild, I liked him, but I hope he found some peace and took a vacation". He then looks up to see Joker and the sexy cop, with make up to hide their scars, smiling at him from across the tables. He raises his glass to them with a chuckle.

But their was one kid in his gang who impressed Joker and had that anarchy in him. He gets message to go to the old butcher hideout. There waiting for him is the razor.

 

[tek]

if ledger had been alive, i think a good spot for him to bob up as joker was just before bane was killed by the cannon. instead joker should have stabbed him in the neck and then give him a twist of the neck in giving him a taste of his own medicine. then he goes on say 'this is my city' and i have not finished playing with the batman. then he dissapears. something of this ilk would have brought the house down

 

[SingItWithMeNow]

Probly death penalty

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I still think that had Ledger not died, Nolan probably would have included him in TDKR in some way. With him gone and how secretive Nolan is of his and his brother's writing process, I guess we'll never know.

 

[The Guard]

I thought it would have been neat to have the orphanage named after Saint Genesis instead of Swithins.

Genesius is the patron saint of actors, clowns, and torture victims. Kind of a "circus" feel to it, as well as a nod to the Joker in a sense, as there as the classic story, THE JOKER'S FIVE WAY REVENGE referenced Genesius in the 70's.

 

[Syncope]

I thought it would have been neat to have the orphanage named after Saint Genesis instead of Swithins.

Genesius is the patron saint of actors, clowns, and torture victims. Kind of a "circus" feel to it, as well as a nod to the Joker in a sense, as there as the classic story, THE JOKER'S FIVE WAY REVENGE referenced Genesius in the 70's.

I'm not having a go, but why don't you just rewrite the whole film?

 

[wootbaby]

Bane only busted out the Blackgate ones because he felt they deserved to be liberated because they were locked up by Dent, whom Bane learned was not the hero he had been made out to be.

I don't see why he'd touch the Arkham inmates.

He broke them out so he'd have an army to control the city. On the bridge the National Guard captain mocks the terrorist "how many men do you have son?" He needs the bodies

He broke out the men to terrorize the rich and join his army. He tells them to join him in that speech he makes. The other stuff about how they've been wronged is just propaganda.

Keep in mind that the League of Shadows are harder on criminals than Bruce is. They kill them! Bane would have no sympathy with petty crooks and others who prey on the people

Joker, I think Nolan actually probably would have has where Crane was if Ledger hadn't died. It makes sense that Joker would oversee that crazy Kangaroo Court with the nonsensical penalities (exile by death). Obviously Nolan doesn't include him in the movie out of respect for Heath.

 

[Just_Human]

 

[The Guard]

I'm not having a go, but why don't you just rewrite the whole film?

Too much work for no point.

The whole film didn't need rewritten. Even this element didn't need rewritten, it just would have been cool.

 

[Kane52630]

From The Dark Knight Rises: The Official Novelization

“Now that the Dent Act had made it all but impossible for the city’s criminals to cop an insanity plea, it (Blackgate Prison) had replaced Arkham Asylum as a preferred location for imprisoning both convicted and suspected felons. The worst of the worst were sent here, except for the Joker, who, rumor had it, was locked away as Arkham’s sole remaining inmate. Or perhaps he had escaped. Nobody was really sure. Not even Selina.”

 

[Bomber]

Genius

 

[Syncope]

That's outstanding. I would have actually settled for that in the film.

 

[Syncope]

Too much work for no point.

The whole film didn't need rewritten. Even this element didn't need rewritten, it just would have been cool.

You just change your user name to The Rewriter.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

He died sometime in the eight-year gap.

well how do you know that kalmart? Did someone in the film say so?

that is awesome. and i agree with syncope, this could have been in the movie. Have Mark Hamill play the role with no dialogue, and it would have been great.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

that's actually perfect. You could do the whole thing without ever completely showing his face, just the mouth and scars.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

^ exactly, and who better to portray than mark hamill?

 

[VM1138]

At best he is locked up in Arkham.

But you think probably during those 3 months, Bane would of cracked that place open as well.

I think Joker probably sits back and enjoys the chaos, maybe bides his time for Batman to fix it all, so he can once again mess with him.

I don't think Bane released the Arkham inmates. Think about it. He's in tight control of the situation in Gotham. If he releases dozens or hundreds of crazy psychopaths, that's a lot of unpredictable variables that could throw his plans askew.

All he needed was to let the inmates loose. No need to release Arkham. For all we know, Crane got released or escaped on his own.

 

[Aztec]

That comic strip would have been a perfect nod to the character and have left me satisfied. It's a shame they didn't pay some kind of homage or even have a throwaway line explaining why when Gotham City is in absolute chaos...The Joker isn't involved!

My preference: Gordon explains to Batman something along the lines that he killed himself in captivity when he realized that Batman wasn't returning to Gotham.

I was also annoyed how they just left Scarecrow lose at the end again. It was one of my biggest gripes from Batman Begins. Tie up loose ends please!

 

[VM1138]

He broke them out so he'd have an army to control the city. On the bridge the National Guard captain mocks the terrorist "how many men do you have son?" He needs the bodies

He broke out the men to terrorize the rich and join his army. He tells them to join him in that speech he makes. The other stuff about how they've been wronged is just propaganda.

Keep in mind that the League of Shadows are harder on criminals than Bruce is. They kill them! Bane would have no sympathy with petty crooks and others who prey on the people

Joker, I think Nolan actually probably would have has where Crane was if Ledger hadn't died. It makes sense that Joker would oversee that crazy Kangaroo Court with the nonsensical penalities (exile by death). Obviously Nolan doesn't include him in the movie out of respect for Heath.

I disagree. Everyone says the Joker would have fit in that scene. What makes us think Joker would play second fiddle to anyone, let alone a restrictive role as a judge? It would demean everything the character did in TDK to make him a bit player.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

For all we know, Crane got released or escaped on his own.

I'm guessing since Scarecrowe helped Ra's in BB that Bane decided it would be proper to bring him back.

 

[Chrisbarnes182]

Bane probably came by Arkham...took one look at him and said "no this one stays in the box"

The Joker told him about his scars.

Ha yeah this is what I think.

 

[Chrisbarnes182]

if ledger had been alive, i think a good spot for him to bob up as joker was just before bane was killed by the cannon. instead joker should have stabbed him in the neck and then give him a twist of the neck in giving him a taste of his own medicine. then he goes on say 'this is my city' and i have not finished playing with the batman. then he dissapears. something of this ilk would have brought the house down

That would have caused a worldwide earthquake with everyone going nuts at the same time in every movie theatre in the world

 

[Golgo-13]

Joker, was one of the few people that knew what Harvey Dent had done/become, so he would have been a liability to Gordon and Batman. Gordon probably had him transferred out of Gotham and handed him over to the feds to keep the lie intact.

 

[marvelanddcfan]

Personally, I believe the Joker seemed to be the only character who didn't receive any closure. Even Ra's and Scarecrow reprised their roles in this movie, Harvey made plenty of cameo appearances, and Killer Croc got a shout out when Blake mentioned "Giant Alligators in the sewers".

So here's my idea for what would've made an awesome after credits scene.
It would've made everyone happy, and teased the crap out of the audience by implying that John Blake (now Nightwing) would definitely have to take on the role as Gotham's protector, considering the Joker was now back on the streets (along with Harley).

- M&DC