Wonder Woman Thread Reborn! - Part 3

[DrCosmic]

We need someone with that kind of height (5'11" or 6 ft).

I don't think her being taller added anything to the story or entertainment value of the pilot.

 

[Dark Raven]

You'd accept Adrianne Palicki over Jaimie Alexander?

Well it's not like I ever liked Jaimie Alexander for the role.

And as attrociously bad as that unaired pilot was, and WW's costume on the whole, I did think that Adrianne Palicki looked the part as both WW and Diana:

Her performance as an overly violent WW who killed and tortured was, of course, down to the script. However, her overall image did look like the Amazon princess, and sometimes even reminsicent of Bruce Timm's WW from the Justice League cartoon. She certainly has a happier, more open face than Alexander who gives the impression she has this permanent scowl, as I mentioned before.

Now I'm not saying that I would necessarily want Adrianne in a WW movie. But I would prefer her to Jaime Alexander.

So you can vomit some more if you want.

 

[Mad Love]

I think I will. That's as awful as Tom Welling as Superman. Her looks and acting don't even compare to Jaimie Alexander. I don't know what you're seeing in their faces, but it doesn't make much sense.

 

[Lord]

Tom Welling looked like somebody that came from kansas, he was a good choice

 

[Airwings]

No pants or shorts. WW should wear a skirt.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think I will. That's as awful as Tom Welling as Superman. Her looks and acting don't even compare to Jaimie Alexander. I don't know what you're seeing in their faces, but it doesn't make much sense.

You = = and

It's all part of the plan!!! t:

And I am serious about preferring Adrianne Palicki to Jaimie Alexander. I think her looks are definitely more spot on for WW than Jaime's with her scowl. I know I'm not the only one who does think Adrianne looks good for WW. There are quite a few Hypesters here who have watched the unaired pilot who have said so themselves in the WW tv series forum thread.

 

[Mad Love]

I don't think you know what a scowl is. If Jaimie Alexander played WW, she'd have a positive reaction as well. It's easier to like something once it's been seen. If she looks good as Sif, she'll look good as WW.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I don't think you know what a scowl is. If Jaimie Alexander played WW, she'd have a positive reaction as well. It's easier to like something once it's been seen. If she looks good as Sif, she'll look good as WW.

That's what we thought about the dude playing Dr Doom and we saw how that turned out.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't think you know what a scowl is. If Jaimie Alexander played WW, she'd have a positive reaction as well. It's easier to like something once it's been seen. If she looks good as Sif, she'll look good as WW.

Jaime's eyebrows and expressions are such that even when she smiles, she still looks like she is either not quite happy about something, or there is a sternness in her face. I'm not talking about just her photos. In fact, I'm not basing it on her photos but her performances on camera.

You don't know that Jaimie would've had a positive reaction if she had played WW. Your argument that it's easier to like something once it has been seen doesn't hold true anyway. What about all these instances of comic book miscasting (or even general film miscasting) where we've seen them and still don't like them?

And just because she looks good for Sif doesn't mean she'll look good for WW. They're two different characters. Besides, it's not like her face is going to change anyway if she's WW. She'll still look like Jaimie Alexander.

And I want to clarify again, I'm not necessarily advocating Adrianne Palicki for a WW movie, although I wouldn't be opposed to it. I thought the pilot was terrible. But I do prefer her physical look for WW than Jaimie's.

When WW smiles, I want her face to look absolutely radiant to reflect her integrity, purity of spirit etc. Lynda Carter had that quality about her. I don't think Jaimie does, because of her "darkened brow" and slightly downturned mouth in general. Adrianne did have that sometimes when she smiled, but there was a serious discrepancy between that and her actions in the pilot. She should remain a good person at heart, and not resort to killing or torture (especially when she has a lasso of truth that she doesn't need to torture).

One actress who does have a radiant smile in the same vein as Lynda Carter is Sarah Lancaster, who might not be a bad candidate for WW:

The only thing is that sometimes her weight seems to fluctuate. Maybe if she got in shape, worked out and toned herself properly, I would be fully convinced of her in the role. There are times when she looks suitable, and other times when she doesn't. But again, I prefer her look for the part to someone like Jaimie Alexander.

 

[jaymes_e06]

And I am serious about preferring Adrianne Palicki to Jaimie Alexander. I think her looks are definitely more spot on for WW than Jaime's with her scowl. I know I'm not the only one who does think Adrianne looks good for WW. There are quite a few Hypesters here who have watched the unaired pilot who have said so themselves in the WW tv series forum thread.

Agreed. I always thought she had the right look even when people where bashing the show to hell. I think she certainly derserves another shot.

 

[Mad Love]

I guess I'm not into the puffy cheeks look for Wonder Woman. Jaimie Alexander actually has a more classic look. Anyway, you're putting way too much emphasis on the way she smiles or whatever you want from her face. It's ridiculous.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I guess I'm not into the puffy cheeks look for Wonder Woman. Jaimie Alexander actually has a more classic look. Anyway, you're putting way too much emphasis on the way she smiles or whatever you want from her face. It's ridiculous.

Dark Raven isn't talking necessarily just about her face. It's a personality projection thing. Daniel Craig can play any number of roles from loving father to Bond, but his face projects a certain coldness that works in some roles and not for others.

I think Alexander could play a version of WW and do well, but I don't think she'd own it cause she doesn't have the full range of when I think WW.

 

[Lily Adler]

I have to agree with fanboiii on Adrianne's casting being very similar to Tom Welling for Superman. I like Adrianne I can see what you're talking about, Raven when you say she looks like's Timm's Diana, her charisma and height. But I'm not sure she's good enough for a feature film. I would be okay if she was cast, though.

So I've been hearing dream directors, mostly James Cameron. So now I want to hear dream composers. Who would you guys want to score a Wonder Woman feature film?

 

[Dark Raven]

I guess I'm not into the puffy cheeks look for Wonder Woman. Jaimie Alexander actually has a more classic look. Anyway, you're putting way too much emphasis on the way she smiles or whatever you want from her face. It's ridiculous.

I'm not talking about Sarah Lancaster's cheeks when I cite her as an example. The fact that that is the first thing you notice means you're missing the point. I gave her as an example of how she has a radiant smile that lights up her whole face - something that Lynda Carter had, and something which even Adrianne has displayed in that unaired pilot. It's more than just the structure or shape of one's face or cheeks. Even Christopher Reeve had that when he smiled as Superman. It gave the impression of a sense of honesty, integrity, warmth, approachability and trust that even someone like Brandon Routh didn't quite have. That kind of thing can't be faked.

This is what I mean with Lynda:

It's not something I see that Jaimie has. Jaimie's face, even when smiling, has a certain coldness and even sadness that makes her not as inherently joyful looking as others. Even that picture you posted above confirms that. It's not just her eyebrows, but also her mouth and cheek bones. In fact, the best way to explain it is that it is almost the subtle microexpressions in her face (if you've ever watched Lie To Me) that suggests that it is less of a duchenne smile compared to others. People can pick up on these things which are almost imperceivable.

It's not a matter of putting too much emphasis on her face. It's a matter of wanting someone who is right for the role. Sure, Jaimie could probably play a tough, cold warrior woman who will kick her enemies' asses, which is why she is certainly suitable for Sif. But she doesn't look like the Wonder Woman who will also stop in the middle of a battle to comfort a child, who will be an ambassador of peace, engender trust and warmth to alarmed citizens etc.

In that sense, Jaimie comes across as more one dimensional and would only portray one aspect of WW, and so in that sense is less of a classic version than either Adrianne or Sarah, neither of whom I'm so strongly advocating for the role of WW as you are for Jaimie, but am just using them to show how they have certain qualities that Jaimie doesn't.

 

[Mad Love]

I think Alexander could play a version of WW and do well, but I don't think she'd own it cause she doesn't have the full range of when I think WW.

I also a bit skeptical about her range when it comes to more dramatic and emotional scenes. I just found out she'll star in a period drama with Jim Caviezel called Savannah, so perhaps we'll see more of what she can do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpC0e6ELAas

Lynda Carter is not the definitive Wonder Woman.

 

[Dark Raven]

I also a bit skeptical about her range when it comes to more dramatic and emotional scenes. I just found out she'll star in a period drama with Jim Caviezel called Savannah, so perhaps we'll see more of what she can do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpC0e6ELAas

Lynda Carter is not the definitive Wonder Woman.

You still haven't got it. I was not using Lynda Carter as the standard. I was using her as an example of someone with a radiant smile who engenders the qualities I mentioned in my previous post, just like I was using Sarah Lancaster, but you could only focus on her cheeks. So I'll give you a different example. Anne Hathaway - eg in the picture of her I'm using as my avatar - she has a face that lights up when she smiles, and immediately lights up a room. It is very radiant. I don't want her as WW as she's already Catwoman, but she has that certain quality that Jaimie is missing.

Jaimie might be able to play the deadly Amazon warrior side, but WW is more than that. She is a princess and ambassador. WW needs a face that instantly shows warmth and openness. An actress with that kind of face can learn fighting skills and train for the role, but one who is just tough and hard edged can't change her face or her micro expressions.

 

[Mad Love]

You don't get that image of a perfect WW face is silly. The whole idea that being radiant, warm, or open all comes down to the way a person's smile is absurd. First of all, it's extremely subjective. Not all people read their face the same way as you. Secondly, those qualities are mainly conveyed through acting. Not smiling.

It sounds like you need to fall in love with the actress in order for her to be WW.

 

[Airwings]

Adrianne Palicki looks like a cheap porn star as Wonder Woman.

I prefer Jamie Alexander over her.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Still don't see the hubbub over Jamie. But I've only seen her in Thor.

 

[jmc]

You still haven't got it. I was not using Lynda Carter as the standard. I was using her as an example of someone with a radiant smile who engenders the qualities I mentioned in my previous post, just like I was using Sarah Lancaster, but you could only focus on her cheeks. So I'll give you a different example. Anne Hathaway - eg in the picture of her I'm using as my avatar - she has a face that lights up when she smiles, and immediately lights up a room. It is very radiant. I don't want her as WW as she's already Catwoman, but she has that certain quality that Jaimie is missing.

Jaimie might be able to play the deadly Amazon warrior side, but WW is more than that. She is a princess and ambassador. WW needs a face that instantly shows warmth and openness. An actress with that kind of face can learn fighting skills and train for the role, but one who is just tough and hard edged can't change her face or her micro expressions.

What you're describing is purely subjective and open to interpretation. It's funny you bring up Anne Hathaway considering she doesn't exactly exhibit the qualities of Selina Kyle, and yet she has been cast as Catwoman.

 

[Dark Raven]

You don't get that image of a perfect WW face is silly. The whole idea that being radiant, warm, or open all comes down to the way a person's smile is absurd. First of all, it's extremely subjective. Not all people read their face the same way as you. Secondly, those qualities are mainly conveyed through acting. Not smiling.

It sounds like you need to fall in love with the actress in order for her to be WW.

Hmmm... let's see... out of the actresses I mentioned, only Anne Hathaway might be an actress I might be fond of, and yet, I specifically said I wouldn't want her as WW.

I'm not remotely in love with Adrianne Palicki, Lynda Carter or Sarah Lancaster. In fact, I only brought up those last two as examples of a particular trait.

It sounds more like you're so in love with Jaimie Alexander that you see her as the perfect Wonder Woman and can't see past her flaws.

 

[Lily Adler]

And the Carousel of Wondy fan casting goes and goes again.

 

[Majik1387]

It will go on forever, even if an actress is finally chosen.

 

[Lily Adler]

So true...

 

[jmc]

All part of the fun! Not much else to talk about.