Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 1

[BeholdMe]

$700 million is fine. I mean Fox should have expected this when they decided to go the prequel route again with younger version of established characters. This is like First Class 2.0 to the GA but with the goodwill coming from DOFP. If it outgrossed DOFP, great, if not, not too surprising given how X-Men spin-offs/prequels performed in the past.

I dont think this is the case as to why it couldnt surpass DOFP or possibly hit a billion at all. Im not sure why someare hung up on whether it in the past or present i wasnt even thinking about that when i watched the movie, its all in how good the story is and overall a great movie in which a bad movie can happen in either timeframe. Also the younger version of established characters have been getting praise for their performances so that didnt hurt the movie either, actually some wanted more from those characters. It was other things that made the movie do what it did, though it seems to be starting off pretty well.

 

[Iceman]

New creative, possibly abandoning the decade jumping. Maybe "soft reboot" it and make it modern.

I think they might stick to the gameplan as long as this doesn't bomb as there is only one more interim decade jump (the 90s) before they get back to the present of X1 time (2000s).

 

[BeholdMe]

New creative, possibly abandoning the decade jumping. Maybe "soft reboot" it and make it modern.

I honestly dont like the decade jumping either, it has gotten a little old now, they need to stick in a timeline and establish these characters without losing so much time wondering what happened. I agree totally though i want a completely new creative team i said time and again thats what is holding this franchise back, they need to recycling the same people and use some fresh people with fresh ideas who really understand the greatness that they have in the X Franchise.

 

[BeholdMe]

I think they might stick to the gameplan as long as this doesn't bomb as there is only one more interim decade jump (the 90s) before they get back to the present of X1 time (2000s).

It does seem like they are trying to get to the present without using time travel again.

 

[Erzengel]

I think they should just aim for character driven films than action/spectacle driven films... but I guess if they scale back when it comes to action/visuals, I don't know if the GA would respond to that very well especially after the 1st weekend, like I feel like the GA usually repeat viewing for the spectacle. I mean like with X-Men, people would expect lots of mutants and mutants vs mutants. With Deadpool/Wolverine, not so much.

I dunno. When you have mutants with certain powers, you want to see them light up the screen.

I don't need to see Wolverine for the 25th time use his claws.

 

[Mad Ones]

I actually love the decade jumps. Well at least I loved the 70s in DOFP and I've loved the 80s inspired marketing for Apocalypse. I love the revisionist history. I think it's smart and just fits with X-men storytelling. A trilogy in the 90s would be where I'd take the series.

I just want the movie to make enough money to get sequels with the new cast (+ McAvoy). Give Singer a break and bring in someone who loves Storm.

 

[BeholdMe]

I dunno. When you have mutants with certain powers, you want to see them light up the screen.

I don't need to see Wolverine for the 25th time use his claws.

Agreed they dont need to scale it back with mutant powers, seeing those flashy powers onscreen dosent hurt we dont need a bunch of superheroes with basic strength,agility that can get boring to me at least. I like colors Storms lighting, Jeans powers, Psylocke using her TK powers and Cyclops blast it pops onscreen. They dont need to scale that back especially since this is the first time they went all out.

 

[BeholdMe]

I actually love the decade jumps. Well at least I loved the 70s in DOFP and I've loved the 80s inspired marketing for Apocalypse. I love the revisionist history. I think it's smart and just fits with X-men storytelling. A trilogy in the 90s would be where I'd take the series.

I just want the movie to make enough money to get sequels with the new cast (+ McAvoy). Give Singer a break and bring in someone who loves Storm.

Yes to this someone who can properly utilize Storm and Jubilee. If they stick to the 90s for the next trilogy ill be fine and i think thats a good idea for them to do. Give us a break with the constant decade jumps.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

Since this is Singer last x-men movie I'm hoping for to be a great hit and make like 850m.

I'm doing my part here, spreading the good word, watching more than once (already saw 3 times), and bringing people with me to watch, today I took two people that usually never goes to the theater to see movies. I convince to go with me and they loved the movie. I know that is only 2 people, but if everyone would do this, would help.

 

[Smilodon]

Every time we have a decade jump they're basically giving themselves the freedom to do what a reboot would ordinarily do. So I don't think underperforming would lead to any kinda noticeable reboot, just more of the "We liked this so we kept this, and got rid of the rest because 10 year time jump!!!"

But I don't really care how much money it makes if we still keep getting lackadaisical interpretations of A-listers like Storm, Psylocke and Archangel. Stuff like the Mohawk, metal wings and psyblade are cool but without actual characterization it's still not much better than what we have had before. We need to service more of the characters.

I also said this as the negative reviews first began, but they gotta take it down a notch from Apocalypse. Obviously lavish power displays are nice but no need for all of that destruction porn. Intimate stories would suit Singer much better. (Or get a director who can do both)

 

[Johnny-Oh]

New creative, possibly abandoning the decade jumping. Maybe "soft reboot" it and make it modern.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, but at the end of the day it's exactly like you said. We're all just fans having fun discussing numbers. But to me it's like the silly runtime arguments. Saying "This film NEEDS to bee this length" is just as crazy to me as saying"If the film doesn't make THIS many it's a failure!"

First Class made almost nothing back during it's theatrical run, while DoFP made 737m, but only 100 of that was a net profit for Fox. Both successful in their own right... or both failures in their own right.

I am an accounting major. I really enjoy looking and analyzing numbers. There is nothing wrong with the discussion of what the numbers mean for Fox. Whether it is profitable or not is an important discussion for the franchise as a whole.

Which is exactly why they made Apocalypse. Because they were looking for better returns.

I seriously question how much of an increase they were betting on. They did not blink from Alice. And when June filled up.

 

[StormC]

I just can't imagine how they're going to keep believably aging up the cast a decade a movie. The next movie will take place presumably 30 years after FC, and probably in less than a decade after FC was released.

 

[SAUspartan]

Lmao at the people who dont think New Mutants is getting made.
And 700 million is great. Just because it would be better if it was 900 million doesn't mean 700 still isn't great.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I seriously question how much of an increase they were betting on. They did not blink from Alice. And when June filled up.

Agreed fox must have been aware of that.

 

[autumnkid2000]

What was CW and BvS OW there? Just curious.

Civil War has the record for the best opening weekend OF ALL TIME here in the Philippines at $7.5 million beating the record previously held by Age of Ultron. SOURCE: http://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/131498-captain-america-civil-war-philippines-box-office-records

RLAAMJR is right. The film is actually well-received here and it even surprised me. The audience I was with was very enthusiastic. They even cheered when the Quicksilver scene started. And in local online forums, I've been reading a lot of praises. Very few detractors. Even local reviews are enthusiastic. I wish I could share in their enthusiasm haha.

 

[Docker2.0]

I was just curious. I still don't think this thing makes over $600M WW. Even though Alice 2 hasn't interested me at all, I can see it hurting it big time, especially here in the USA. And crazily, I have barely seen commercials for it this week at all.

 

[X-Maniac]

$700 million is fine. I mean Fox should have expected this when they decided to go the prequel route again with younger version of established characters. This is like First Class 2.0 to the GA but with the goodwill coming from DOFP. If it outgrossed DOFP, great, if not, not too surprising given how X-Men spin-offs/prequels performed in the past.

I don't think it's down to the time setting or the young cast. Those weren't what was wrong with the movie.

Someone here needs to do a spreadsheet analysis of all the reviews on RT and find out what was loved/hated the most... If I had time, I'd do it, but I am too busy with work and another project and about to go away on holiday...

 

[superweirdo87]

I don't see this movie making 700M. But, if 700M is not enough, then perhaps the problem is expectations and budgeting. There is a reasonable case that does not cut it on the basis of budgets. However, there's a case that they should trim the budget and reconsider expectations.

 

[X-Maniac]

I don't see this movie making 700M. But, if 700M is not enough, then perhaps the problem is expectations and budgeting. There is a reasonable case that does not cut it on the basis of budgets. However, there's a case that they should trim the budget and reconsider expectations.

They could easily trim the budget if they made something with less CGI/FX. Apocalypse had a massive use of CGI and I bet there was an expensive rush to get it all done on time.

The young cast aren't that expensive, and if Magneto isn't in the next one and J-Law refuses to come back, that will cut the cast salaries further. Then if they make a more scaled-down story it wouldn't have as big a payout on special FX.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The young cast aren't that expensive, and if Magneto isn't in the next one and J-Law refuses to come back, that will cut the cast salaries further. Then if they make a more scaled-down story it wouldn't have as big a payout on special FX.

Budget will go on the actors before it goes on the effects, they won't for example throw magneto out to save them budget for effects, it would more likely the otherway around.

 

[superweirdo87]

A new creative would be a good idea. Fox should certainly make changes. The thing about reboots, especially soft ones, is that it can become harder to invest in the characters when they're being turned over. It also seems like reboots work better when time has passed (though there are exceptions), and when the creators have a vision for what they want to accomplish.

If it's just a commercial, we-think-this-might-play-better, you can wind up failing to offer something new and compelling enough to win people over.

Reboots do offer one plus, which is they seem to be safer. And it could work with the right creators. But, there are potential pitfalls to a soft reboot and expecting 800M WW.

It seems like identity questions would be there for sure, if we are looking at the same universe in the present day, why are different actors (aside from Famke and James) playing Scott, Jean, Wolverine, and Professor X?

 

[TheNewSlayer]

I saw the movie for the third time last night bringing two friends with me who haven't seeing the movie yet.

But my point is that I saw the movie with 3 different audiences and all 3 cheered a lot in the theater, on the sad scenes people were sad, on the happy funny scenes people were laughing, on the action scenes people were excited. Seriously I don't know how is possible not to like this movie. I think only haters have a problem with this movie.

 

[superweirdo87]

They could easily trim the budget if they made something with less CGI/FX. Apocalypse had a massive use of CGI and I bet there was an expensive rush to get it all done on time.

The young cast aren't that expensive, and if Magneto isn't in the next one and J-Law refuses to come back, that will cut the cast salaries further. Then if they make a more scaled-down story it wouldn't have as big a payout on special FX.

Yes, more time and less spectacle should lower costs. Also, a lot of people complain that there were so many characters that you did not get to know any. So fewer actors should be less expensive. J-Law is also out. Replacing Singer could also cut the budget.

 

[fobi]

Not sure how much of an indication this has on how it'll do over the weekend but I'm in NYC and there are a lot of theaters that were completely sold out at the end of last week. Mainly the ones where they have seat selection. I thought I had time to get my tickets but now I can't see it on Friday at my preferred theater with the reclining seats!