Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[DarthSkywalker]

If they reboot, and I even hate using that word here, it will be a soft reboot that brings these kids to the present day. Like they were always there.

 

[Manila Vanilla]

There will not be a reboot.

I agree MCU Fanatics can moan all they want but there will never be a reboot t:

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Is this movie going to underperform worldwide bad enough to force a reboot? I don't know about all that.

 

[marvelrobbins]

There will not be a reboot.

I disagree with that.Critics are helping to kill series.it based on projections from previous films vs real results do 70 million or less over the 4 day.
Apocalypse for second weekend could drop to 25 million.

reboot is how studios react these days to any disappointment.the one thing
that keep fox from rebooting after origins is gone.Jackman is done after
he wraps the present filming wolverine solo film.

many around here advocated for one or said many times first class should have been reboot.i am saying with disappointing box office that may happen.

and some advocated they reboot to have X-men fit in deadpool's world.well they may do it and franchise become deadpool driven.that would apparently go well based on comments i seen online.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Setting it in present day isn't gonna fix anything really, its just a way to camouflage the real issue but won't trick people into running to see the movie, i haven't seen anyone bothered by it being set in the past.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I agree MCU Fanatics can moan all they want but there will never be a reboot t:

I think your wrong.and MCU fanatics ignore fact fox can reboot X-men themselves.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Is this movie going to underperform worldwide bad enough to force a reboot? I don't know about all that.

Rough math, all in the head. We are probably looking at something in the 600m-650m range, which is not pretty. But rebooting sounds like a real overreaction. But I really think it would be smart to simply make the timeline contemporary. It would save money as well.

 

[Sithborg]

Is this movie going to underperform worldwide bad enough to force a reboot? I don't know about all that.

A bit early to tell. It sounds like it is doing better in the Asian territories than the European ones. But then, it also sounds like Warcraft will be blowing up in those territories as well. The international BO is going to be interesting to watch.

Fox was already playing accounting magic to ease expectations.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I disagree with that.Critics are helping to kill series.it based on projections from previous films vs real results do 70 million or less over the 4 day.
Apocalypse for second weekend could drop to 25 million.

reboot is how studios react these days to any disappointment.the one thing
that keep fox from rebooting after origins is gone.Jackman is done after
he wraps the present filming wolverine solo film.

many around here advocated for one or said many times first class should have been reboot.i am saying with disappointing box office that may happen.

and some advocated they reboot to have X-men fit in deadpool's world.well they may do it and franchise become deadpool driven.that would apparently go well based on comments i seen online.

 

[Abudefduf]

So wait, if I'm getting it right the movie's underperforming? Not really surprised to be honest.

You can't do reboot or present day with firct class cast.

Well I wasn't exactly being serious. It's just wishful thinking on my part. I realize that it would be a continuity nightmare and that it'd confuse the hell out of the GA.

And what's wrong with wanting them to interact with Deadpool, I honestly kind of think that's eventualy gonna happen anyway. Not sure how, but Fox's not gonna leave the Deadpool cashcow unmilked. At least I'm pretty sure Wolverine will.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Rough math, all in the head. We are probably looking at something in the 600m-650m range, which is not pretty. But rebooting sounds like a real overreaction. But I really think it would be smart to simply make the timeline contemporary. It would save money as well.

The continuity in this franchise is a hot mess anyway so I wonder if anyone would even care if they just set it in contemporary times without explaination.

 

[GuestStar2004]

But I really think it would be smart to simply make the timeline contemporary. It would save money as well.

it certainly wouldn't save anymore money then they are currently spending.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

it certainly wouldn't save anymore money then they are currently spending.

What do you mean?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

A bit early to tell. It sounds like it is doing better in the Asian territories than the European ones. But then, it also sounds like Warcraft will be blowing up in those territories as well. The international BO is going to be interesting to watch.

Fox was already playing accounting magic to ease expectations.

You mean when we heard that the film cost over 220 million and suddenly Fox was saying it cost 178 million?

 

[Johnny-Oh]

My feelings for Singer haven't ever changed, and I even like most of his movies. I own his Jack on blu-ray and like Superman Returns. Bashing Singer would be to make up lies and to simply talk about how crap he is. Constructive criticism for Singer has been around for years. It is just more glaring obvious post-First Class, as Vaughn showed the ideal balance of an X-Men film. It is the same I have for Whedon's work on the Avengers after TWS and Civil War, even as I am a huge fan of his Buffyverse.

There are people who seem unable to give Singer credit for anything, Apocalypse is his first X-Men movie to be poorly received but people act like he's been constantly making bad movies.

Vaughn's movie was focused on Xavier and Magneto while the other characters are basically irrelevant. I don't have a problem with that because I liked the movie but to say it has the perfect balance makes no sense considering it has the same issue that Singer's movies get criticized for. Heck even Apocalypse did more for its characters than First Class did.

 

[TeeKay]

Damn didn't expect this.

 

[GuestStar2004]

but Fox's not gonna leave the Deadpool cashcow unmilked. At least I'm pretty sure Wolverine will.

Do you want fox to milk deadpool to the point where people won't see an X-Men movie unless he is there? because that would probably happen, and then people would complain that its always about deadpool purely because made a fuss that they wanted to see a x-men/deadpool cross over for 1 or 2 movies

 

[X-Maniac]

I disagree with that.Critics are helping to kill series.it based on projections from previous films vs real results do 70 million or less over the 4 day.
Apocalypse for second weekend could drop to 25 million.

reboot is how studios react these days to any disappointment.the one thing
that keep fox from rebooting after origins is gone.Jackman is done after
he wraps the present filming wolverine solo film.

many around here advocated for one or said many times first class should have been reboot.i am saying with disappointing box office that may happen.

and some advocated they reboot to have X-men fit in deadpool's world.well they may do it and franchise become deadpool driven.that would apparently go well based on comments i seen online.

You're very quick to go to 'doom and gloom'.

The weekend isn't even over with yet - we're on the Saturday daytime - and you're already ringing the bells of doom.

Whatever happens, they will deal with it. Singer is taking a break anyway, and there's a whole array of other projects coming or lined up: X Force, New Mutants, Deadpool 2, Wolverine 3, Gambit...

A more scaled-down approach for the next X-Men film would be a good idea anyway. Less of the CGI and epic setpieces. And if Mystique and Magneto sit the next one out, it would be cheaper too.

 

[GuestStar2004]

What do you mean?

How would it save them money? they would still be paying the same amount

 

[X-Maniac]

Damn didn't expect this.

Didn't expect what?

 

[Sithborg]

You mean when we heard that the film cost over 220 million and suddenly Fox was saying it cost 178 million?

Pretty much.

 

[Abudefduf]

Do you want fox to milk deadpool to the point where people won't see an X-Men movie unless he is there? because that would probably happen, and then people would complain that its always about deadpool purely because made a fuss that they wanted to see a x-men/deadpool cross over for 1 or 2 movies

It would only happen if Fox failed to make the other mutants as interesting as him, which is kinda what's happened so far with Wolverine.

They need to build them up and make people care about them before doing the crossover. I definitely do not want every single X-Men movie from now on to feature Deadpool, I agree that it'd be just overkill.

 

[marvelrobbins]

There are people who seem unable to give Singer credit for anything, Apocalypse is his first X-Men movie to be poorly received but people act like he's been constantly making bad movies.

Vaughn's movie was focused on Xavier and Magneto while the other characters are basically irrelevant. I don't have a problem with that because I liked the movie but to say it has the perfect balance makes no sense considering it has the same issue that Singer's movies get criticized for. Heck even Apocalypse did more for its characters than First Class did.

First class focused just as much on magneto as wolverine did in original trilogy.and had magneto as main arc that now with apocalypse they are bashing Singer for doing In Apocalypse.the lyncing by critics isn't going to chance my oporion that apocalypse feels better exceperence than First clas and that I place apocalase third in ranking of X-men related films and first class fifth.

well even if fox doesn't reboot I think we are done with lawrence in these films.If fox doesn't reboot they likely will greatly reduce budget and they
won't be paying up heavy money to get her back.

 

[Iceman]

Every now and then is cool and I don't think it'd work any more than that as he isn't really going to be a full team member living in the mansion lol.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There are people who seem unable to give Singer credit for anything, Apocalypse is his first X-Men movie to be poorly received but people act like he's been constantly making bad movies.

Vaughn's movie was focused on Xavier and Magneto while the other characters are basically irrelevant. I don't have a problem with that because I liked the movie but to say it has the perfect balance makes no sense considering it has the same issue that Singer's movies get criticized for. Heck even Apocalypse did more for its characters than First Class did.

He doesn't make bad movies often. But his general aesthetic and approach to the X-Men has turned off many from the start. People like to use to blame Fox for that, but his last two films have shown that to just not be the case.

First Class focuses on Charles and Erik. It also explores their relationship and actually gives their opposing philosophies some actual footing. It isn't just something that happens because that is the way it is. Their mythical chess game is actually a thing. With two well formed characters who have a genuine relationship, that is bigger then anything Singer had brought to the table in that regard. Who spends most of his time playing up the loner aspect of these characters (Rogue and Logan), and forcing drama ala Jean and Logan.

And Vaughn does a lot with the other characters in their big scenes. Stuff like the kids' naming themselves, the push and pull of Charles and Erik on Raven, the training montage, etc. His directing and editing skills allowed for him to get more out of these scenes then most director's would. It isn't just a training montage, it is a character piece for Hank that sets his relationship with Charles.

Also Vaughn gets credit for simply having an X-Men movie where Charles actually teaches some kids something. 4 movies with Singer, and he apparently doesn't realize that Charles is a teacher to a group of mutant badasses who need assistance in controlling those powers.