Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[marvelrobbins]

Could you please use proper capitalization and formatting for your posts?

Unless they actually did make some sort of deal with Marvel Studios, I would say a reboot is quite unlikely. There's little to gain from it.

fox can easily reboot themselves.what makes you think a reboot would only
happen because of that.fox isn't sony.

right now as apocalypse continues to be downgroaded in predictions chances of reboot Is going up.And I don't even want one.But,this is how studios respond
when films disappointment.And now they don't have jackman to prevent
them from doing it.

 

[Manila Vanilla]

Deadline's Memorial Weekend Estimates:

1). X-Men: Apocalypse (FOX), 4,150 theaters / $26.3M Fri. (includes $8.2M previews) / 3-day cume: $65M-$66.4M /4-day: $80M-$80.6M Wk 1

2). Alice Through the Looking Glass (Disney)), 3,763 theaters / $9.8M Fri. (includes $1.5M previews) / 3-day cume: $29M-32.5M /4-day: $38M-$42M/Wk 1

http://deadline.com/2016/05/x-men-a...s-memorial-day-weekend-box-office-1201763668/

 

[marvelrobbins]

Well technically no because they green lit FC2 even after FC, they didn't green light X4, the OC coming back grew out of the story planning process and not as a response.

That's the official story.I don't buy it.

 

[Orba]

Looks like $26.5m Friday.

Edit: Welp...

@GiteshPandya #XMenApocalypse opens #1 FRI w/ $26.4M. 4day #MemorialDayWeekend gross heading to $80M range. Pretty good marks from paying auds.

Hmm, that would put its actual Friday at $18.2M, not too great when First Class did $18M without 3D or Premium screens.

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

Deadline's Memorial Weekend Estimates:



http://deadline.com/2016/05/x-men-a...s-memorial-day-weekend-box-office-1201763668/

There's a chance the two movies combined won't make as much as DotFP's Memorial Day weekend.

 

[BeholdMe]

For example, the choice of actor to play Apocalypse. Fans didn't like it. It should be someone taller. More intimidated. But Singer love the actor and went with it.

Cutting scenes of the movie that didn't needed to be cut.

Before release said that he doesn't like extended version of movies and we will not get one for this movie.

Don't paying attention to the characters powers (Psylocke should also have telepathy in this movie and it doesn't show)

Jubilee gets the same treatment Rogue got in DOFP.

The black suits instead of actual costumes cause he doesn't like the costumes from the comics.

Stuff like that.

Ok I agree with you sometimes but not here. Though Singer didn't go with someone tall and "intimidating" Ossar slayed and delivered in the role I don't care what anyone says he acted through that darn makeup. As I stated in his thread when he connected to Xavier through cerebro and was giving that speech I got goosebumps I actually felt what he was saying and it was powerful which does a lot more than simply some big bulky guy which you don't have to be in order to be a villian its a combination of other things. Voldemort was highly feared and respected and he had no muscles whatsoever. Ossar did amazing in the part and I rather have him that some big huge guy.
We did get the costumes at the end though and it made sense we didn't get them beforehand in the movie. Cyclops and Nightcrawler were new recruits and everything happened so fast with them getting captured and taking on Apocalypse they can't stop mid battle just to create some suits so they used what they had which were the battle suits which didn't even look that bad. Also as I said we got the costumes at the end we could've gotten nothing but we got something, though I did want to see them in action. I do agree about the cutting scenes though I would've liked more insight in the Horsemen once they joined up other than Magneto. Also what you said about Jubilee I was very disappointed and felt it was a complete waste introducing her only to do the same they had in the OT with her. Psylocke though dosent need telepathy there were times when she only had one or the other, when she died as a TP in Xtreme XMen and was brought back she lost her TP and only had powerful TK powers, my point is she dosent always have both power sets so it's no big deal not having both in the movies.

 

[DavidHaller]

I am personally not suprised with these low numbers. (But are these numbers really so worrisome for the franchise like some of you try to imply?)

You cannot produce a dull action movie without any socio-political subtext for a series/brand that is mainly well received and popular by an audience that enjoys exactly this intellectual serious dimension of story-telling. Please don't be suprised that the audience stays away when critics hate the movie...why else did this audience come and enjoy it in the first place?

FOX totally misconcieved its own brand with "X-Men Apocalypse" in my eyes! Hoping to increase the audience through increasing CGI destruction level was a big fail! This is obviously also not what Singer does well! They shouldn't have listened to fanboy talk on the internet and produce a movie that is 100 % fan service for this vocal crowd. Obviously fans of the franchise love Singer's serious realistic tone and come and see the movies because of this tone he established for 16 years.

A reboot is a dumb idea. Just make the movie better the next time and audiences will come again. Everybody loved the new generation of X-Men. Now give them something to do!

 

[First Avenger]

So are those numbers bad?

 

[BeholdMe]

which is going to be a disaster for franchise.The wolverine grossed 132 million
domesticly and First Class grossed 146 Million.

The wolverine cost 120 million.First class cost 160 Million.Apocalypse cost
178 million reportly.

With first Class they responded by bringing back original cast.that's not an
option after apocalypse with jackman saying he is done after wrapping new wolverine film.

The chances for a reboot is going up.

No it's not your speaking complete nonsense just because it's not doing what they expecting dosent mean there rebooting there will just be some changes by next movie. All you say is the same thing and it's not going to happen sorry to burst your bubble. I can see if it was doing Alice numbers then I would say yes a reboot but not with these numbers no.

 

[Sithborg]

So are those numbers bad?

A bit of a disappointment, sure. But not "REBOOT NOW!!!" kind of results.

 

[BeholdMe]

A bit of a disappointment, sure. But not "REBOOT NOW!!!" kind of results.

Exactly marvelrobbins keeps saying the same thing I agree a disappointment but not enough for a reboot. They just hired all these new great actors they ARENT rebooting.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Like all X-Men movies the film isn't going to have legs so it needed to open with a certain amount. I'd call it's opening mediocre more than anything else.

I don't see Fox throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[Sithborg]

Like all X-Men movies the film isn't going to have legs so it needed to open with a certain amount. I'd call it's opening mediocre more than anything else.

Like almost everything that surrounding this movie. Not bad, but not great either.

Don't care though, I loved it.

 

[Silver Surfer]

65 million OW, ouch, 25 million less than DoFP and 10 million more than First Class. And next week's drop is gonna be epic, not BvS bad, but still harsh.

Deadline's point about Hugh Jackman is right, you need your draw front and center.

 

[CaptainCanada]

fox can easily reboot themselves. what makes you think a reboot would only happen because of that.fox isn't sony.

Because there's no real gain from rebooting unless there's something fundamentally different about the new version. Which we've seen repeatedly from the various attempts to do that with superhero films of late. If they want to change the tone, they can do that within the property and keep all the elements of the franchise that people like.

 

[Manila Vanilla]

Exactly marvelrobbins keeps saying the same thing I agree a disappointment but not enough for a reboot. They just hired all these new great actors they ARENT rebooting.

I agree, they might go for Proteus/MrSinister for the next one to save money. Phoenix Saga seems expensive! Bryan will surely be replaced by Vaugh but I hope it's Miller (after making Deadpool 2)

 

[Double B]

Those numbers for Alice are brutal and deserved. The first was a bit of a 'lightning strikes once' success. No one was clamouring for a sequel, and certainly not one this many years later. I think there's a lot that can be argued for Depp's increasingly diminishing star power and appeal but that's for another thread.

Speaking of diminishing appeal though...

You can spin those numbers, and you can argue that it's mildly disappointing (and it is that) because it's certainly not catastrophic. But in terms of the bigger picture here, after the critical and commercial success of DOFP, this is an underperformance. We all know this cost more that $178 million and DOFP's commercial success wasn't so stratospheric that it would be impossible to match or even surpass - this isn't a case of every Marvel movie failing to exceed Avengers here. Something has went wrong and the franchise just isn't connecting as it should and I'm sure Fox will be looking into that.

I'd love to know why myself.

I wouldn't be surprised if, in the next decade, we eventually do get a reboot and that propels the franchise to new commercial heights but it's interesting to see, as we discussed the other day, that there's a ceiling on this incarnation of the franchise.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Like almost everything that surrounding this movie. Not bad, but not great either.

Don't care though, I loved it.

And you loving it should personally be what counts the most to you.

 

[Silver Surfer]

They are gonna give it one more crack before they even consider a reboot. If the next X-Men film is also poorly received and depreciates at the box office then yeah, Fox will consider a reboot.

Thing is, Fox sees Marvel making 3x the money with their CBMs, and now with Deadpool's gross, it knows that it has ability to reach that level. Fox is not gonna tolerate box office returns like this for it's marquee franchise for long.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Deadline's point about Hugh Jackman is right, you need your draw front and center.

Its certainly a weird situation then since the wolverine made $414.8 million at the box office, its almost like wolverine has to be front and center to make money but only when he is front and center of a team obviously ;p

Also this franchise is pretty doomed if jackman is needed to hold this franchise up.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Its certainly a weird situation then since the wolverine made $414.8 million at the box office, its almost like wolverine has to be front and center to make money but only when he is front and center of a team obviously ;p

Also this franchise is pretty doomed if jackman is needed to hold this franchise up.

It's like a Hulk situation I guess, put him solo and he'll still make money, put him in a team setting with characters he can interact with and GOLD!

But yeah, without Wolvie/Jackman moving forward, Fox has some deep waters to go through.

 

[CaptainCanada]

They are gonna give it one more crack before they even consider a reboot. If the next X-Men film is also poorly received and depreciates at the box office then yeah, Fox will consider a reboot.

Thing is, Fox sees Marvel making 3x the money with their CBMs, and now with Deadpool's gross, it knows that it has ability to reach that level. Fox is not gonna tolerate box office returns like this for it's marquee franchise for long.

I would say the issue there is, what exactly does FOX need to do to get those sorts of returns?

Normal studio logic would generally be that people liked Deadpool, so FOX's other superhero films should be more like Deadpool (or star Deadpool). Of course, Deadpool's tone is so unique that I think it would be a serious misread to try to make X-Men like that.

 

[Double B]

Deadline's point about Hugh Jackman is right, you need your draw front and center.

But this is sadly the problem with this franchise, it's that it repeatedly focused on the few at the expense of the many.

Again, I don't think it'll be something addressed until an eventual reboot does happen but yes, of course, Wolverine is a breakout draw just as he was in the comics but what the movies haven't managed to do is utilise properly all the other characters who are similar draws.

Storm is an icon and could be a breakout, but she's just been mishandled at every turn.

Rogue and Gambit, in their comic forms, massive fan favourites. Massive potential on the big-screen with a popular romance attached? It writes itself. They just haven't.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Because there's no real gain from rebooting unless there's something fundamentally different about the new version. Which we've seen repeatedly from the various attempts to do that with films of late. If they want to change the tone, they can do that within the property and keep all the elements of the franchise that people like.

studios reboot very easily nowadays.

Fox could very easily reboot it to fit with deadpool.I have seen people advocating for it online.

after deadpool's success fox could totally just blame singer for apocalypse's box office.reboot with kinberg writing and him and donner producing.

and they could drop all darkness and all allegory to try to make it like deadpool.

 

[Sithborg]

They are gonna give it one more crack before they even consider a reboot. If the next X-Men film is also poorly received and depreciates at the box office then yeah, Fox will consider a reboot.

Thing is, Fox sees Marvel making 3x the money with their CBMs, and now with Deadpool's gross, it knows that it has ability to reach that level. Fox is not gonna tolerate box office returns like this for it's marquee franchise for long.

But on the flip side, they have also seen the results when others have chased the "cinematic universe" gold. I think both Sony and WB are good enough warning signs that Fox may not directly seek out the same results as Marvel.