Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 4

[Zarex]

+Is it just me that gets bored to tears of all the overlong cannon-fodder battle endings? (ie Ironman 3 and AOU)

It's not just you. I enjoyed AOU, but hated the fact that the Ultrons were so easily torn to shreds when that is the exact opposite of how they are supposed to work. I would have much preferred a half dozen or so formidable Ultrons than hundreds of paper mache versions.

An earlier example is the high jumping mutants in TLS. Why is Colossus punching a pack of nobodies when JUGGERNAUT IS STANDING RIGHT THERE! Ratner eventually got to the good stuff - Pyro vs Iceman, Kitty vs Juggernaut - but the initial wave was unnecessary.

I thought Civil War nailed its super powered battle scene, and I would love to see a no-holds barred version between a team and a group of high powered baddies.

 

[marvelrobbins]

according to Box office mojo is estimates hole Apocalypse made 14 Million monday bringing 4 day total to 80 Million.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

according to Box office mojo is estimates hole Apocalypse made 14 Million monday bringing 4 day total to 80 Million.

I was expecting more than $110 million.

 

[Sithborg]

IF they'd done a "Suicide Squad" and pumped 300 million in to it (which I'd like to add is just INSANE), they'd probably be ****ting themselves right now but I'd wager Fox are going to be happy with the final outcome.

Wait, what? That can't be the budget.

 

[Double B]

Oh please, you can't claim that Suicide Squad cost $300 million then actually believe that Apocalypse cost $178 million which is frankly creative accounting at its finest.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Wait, what? That can't be the budget.

I wouldn't be surprised at all on that knowing WB.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

Wait, what? That can't be the budget.

Another failure.

 

[ImSGirl95]

I was expecting more than $110 million.

How?

Seriouslly, I am not kidding, but looking at the X-Men franchise. Compared to the other franchises. Look at the FAST franchise, since Part 4 every other sequel is making more and more money. Even without the Walker incident, Part 7 was bound to hit a billion. Part 6 did almost 800 million.

And look at the Transformers. Every single one of them movies is really bad with the critics, and yet people are going wild and seeing them.
Look at the Pirates franchise.
Even look at the TMNT (2014) movie with almost 500 million.

X-Men are bound to not make a lot of money. I think DoFP was the highlight and only one movie to make "a good money" (considering it's been 14 years and it had the old and new actors, it still not that good. Compared to how easy some of other movies hit the billion mark).

So, yeah, even with amazing critics (First Class) or with IMAX screenings (XMA), the X-Men movies are not bound to make a lot of money. It's like the word of mouth is "meh".
DoFP is the top of the mountain and they aint making more than that. Not even close.

P.S: I am talking about the X-Men movies here (X-Men, Wolverine, etc.)
Deadpool is his own league.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

Worldwide: $265,831,017

 

[Sithborg]

How?

Seriouslly, I am not kidding, but looking at the X-Men franchise. Compared to the other franchises. Look at the FAST franchise, since Part 4 every other sequel is making more and more money. Even without the Walker incident, Part 7 was bound to hit a billion. Part 6 did almost 800 million.

And look at the Transformers. Every single one of them movies is really bad with the critics, and yet people are going wild and seeing them.
Look at the Pirates franchise.
Even look at the TMNT (2014) movie with almost 500 million.

X-Men are bound to not make a lot of money. I think DoFP was the highlight and only one movie to make "a good money" (considering it's been 14 years and it had the old and new actors, it still not that good. Compared to how easy some of other movies hit the billion mark).

So, yeah, even with amazing critics (First Class) or with IMAX screenings (XMA), the X-Men movies are not bound to make a lot of money. It's like the word of mouth is "meh".
DoFP is the top of the mountain and they aint making more than that. Not even close.

P.S: I am talking about the X-Men movies here (X-Men, Wolverine, etc.)
Deadpool is his own league.

I should point out that Transformers has been in steady decline domestically. And X-men is making decent money. Just not the 100+ opening weekend kind that seems to be the expectation.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

This movie has to reach $550 million by end of Sunday so I'll be happy.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Wait, what? That can't be the budget.

It was leaked early that the original budget ended up well over 250 million. This was before "tens of millions" was spent on extensive reshoots. I was hyperbolling a little but it's likely at the very least 280million+.

P.S: I am talking about the X-Men movies here (X-Men, Wolverine, etc.)
Deadpool is his own league.

Deadpool was it's own fluke anomaly; as much a piss-take of comic book movies as it was one.

 

[metaphysician]

people need to stop blaming the critics and accept that maybe people just weren't excited for the movie,

I said that this didn't have much hype and people were saying I was being a hater, but it's the truth

Me, I'd like it if people acknowledged that a movie can be actually bad. If the critics give a movie a 50%, and the movie is *actually* 50% quality, than it is the *movie's* fault. If the critics are truthfully critiquing the movie, then what: do you want them to lie about the movie to preserve your pre-release hype?

 

[First Avenger]

This movie has to reach $550 million by end of Sunday so I'll be happy.

Impossible.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

This movie has to reach $550 million by end of Sunday so I'll be happy.

It might not even reach that at all.

Specialists predict 500ww total during all its time on theater.

 

[Iceman]

Getting back on topic, for all the negativity about in this thread this film really isn't doing that badly.

It's not exactly setting the box office on fire, but once all the markets are added up (and it's released in China next week) then it's going to make a sizeable chunk, especially for a budget that wasn't even 200 million.

IF they'd done a "Suicide Squad" and pumped 300 million in to it (which I'd like to add is just INSANE), they'd probably be ****ting themselves right now but I'd wager Fox are going to be happy with the final outcome.


+Is it just me that gets bored to tears of all the overlong cannon-fodder battle endings? (ie Ironman 3 and AOU)

I don't mind them going up against 'drones' but there's no point if they are so weak that the civilians could take them out themselves. They have to have some threat about them or at least there should be generals amongst them who carry an advanced threat.

 

[superweirdo87]

It might not even reach that at all.

Specialists predict 500ww total during all its time on theater.

It definitely might not reach that, but where did you read specialists predict 500ww total?

 

[Iceman]

This movie has to reach $550 million by end of Sunday so I'll be happy.

Sorry mate, that won't happen.

 

[kguillou]

I'm wondering if the X-Men just don't have that kind of pullpower with the GA quite frankly. DoFP was an anomaly. It had this one time novelty factor of reuniting the original cast with the new cast and of course, everyone's favorite mutant was marketed front and center.

This movie is more of the "First Class" ilk (and FC just barely made any profit) so its'really more of the same and adding even more new faces that the GA doesn't know. So, I'm thinking maybe, just maybe the X-Men just doesn't resonate with people anymore and it's all about the Avengers franchise.

........But then I think about Guardians of the Galaxy. A film full of characters nobody, even hardcore comic fans, even knew or cared about and starred a B-list (at the time) actor. And the audience openly embraced it and Guardians 2 is sure to break 1 bill. So with that said, I'm inclined to believe audiences will respond to anything that's crowd pleasing and fun (which is why Transformers does well).

That's what kind of baffles me, whether you thought XA was a good film or not I thought it had plenty of levity and crowd pleasing moments that I would think the GA would react to. I'm wondering if marketing screwed the pooch on this one. I ended up LOVING the movie but even I admit that the trailers lacked a punch that would get me excited for the movie and I kind of went into it expecting to be underwhelmed. I think this movie was not marketed well quite frankly.

 

[GuestStar2004]

In terms of the avengers and X-Men... yeah people probably do think more of the avengers.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

It definitely might not reach that, but where did you read specialists predict 500ww total?

Around the net, I'm seeing a lot of twits of different people talking, different critics, box office prediction companies.

Just search this on twitter #XMenApocalypse

 

[TheNewSlayer]

In terms of the avengers and X-Men... yeah people probably do think more of the avengers.

Not really, Cap3 this year was luck enough to have Spiderman.

If Spiderman would have being in X-Men would help the box office too.

Is not that uncommon to see the X-Men team up with Spiderman.

After the death of Wolverine in the comics we even got a book called Spiderman and the X-Men.

 

[Sithborg]

I'm wondering if the X-Men just don't have that kind of pullpower with the GA quite frankly. DoFP was an anomaly. It had this one time novelty factor of reuniting the original cast with the new cast and of course, everyone's favorite mutant was marketed front and center.

This movie is more of the "First Class" ilk (and FC just barely made any profit) so its'really more of the same and adding even more new faces that the GA doesn't know. So, I'm thinking maybe, just maybe the X-Men just doesn't resonate with people anymore and it's all about the Avengers franchise.

........But then I think about Guardians of the Galaxy. A film full of characters nobody, even hardcore comic fans, even knew or cared about and starred a B-list (at the time) actor. And the audience openly embraced it and Guardians 2 is sure to break 1 bill. So with that said, I'm inclined to believe audiences will respond to anything that's crowd pleasing and fun (which is why Transformers does well).

That's what kind of baffles me, whether you thought XA was a good film or not I thought it had plenty of levity and crowd pleasing moments that I would think the GA would react to. I'm wondering if marketing screwed the pooch on this one. I ended up LOVING the movie but even I admit that the trailers lacked a punch that would get me excited for the movie and I kind of went into it expecting to be underwhelmed. I think this movie was not marketed well quite frankly.

Franchises wane and wax. This may just be a low period for the franchise. X-men could be back on top a few years from now.

 

[superweirdo87]

I'm wondering if the X-Men just don't have that kind of pullpower with the GA quite frankly...This movie is more of the "First Class" ilk (and FC just barely made any profit) so its'really more of the same and adding even more new faces that the GA doesn't know. So, I'm thinking maybe, just maybe the X-Men just doesn't resonate with people anymore and it's all about the Avengers franchise.

As you note, GOTG did extremely well. Also, Batman V. Superman did less than GOTG and Deadpool.

I think it's about execution and finding stuff that resonates with the audience. This particular movie seemed very typical of stuff they had seen before. The breakout success of deadpool said audiences wanted something different. And this movie was cities getting destroyed in clear-cut CGI, a villain trying to take over the world, and the same Xavier V. Magneto stuff they had seen before.

I do think DOFP was an anomoly for this cast.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Was the dark knight rises 'crowd pleasing' and 'fun'? Cleared a billion.