Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 4

[Tymminator]

I saw it again for the 2nd time yesterday.

IMO, the theater had a decent amount of people in it.

 

[yaellen]

The problem was release three major CBM in a span of a couple months. Can't happen. Let IW and JL boil over. People will want the next big "A" list property once Avengers and JL finish up. That's when you go back to X-Men. 2020 or 2021 will be fine. Frankly, I'm hoping we don't see this crew for another 7-8 years. Jump to the 90's when it will actually look realistic in terms of aging.

In the meantime, make an X-Men Origins: Gambit (one that involves some X-Men but does not feature them). Deadpool will get at least another three films, two sequels plus X-Force. X-Force ends with Cable going back in time to the 90's. This jump starts the next X-Men trilogy.

I assume Fox signed couple of films with these new comers, but if they need to wait for another 7-8 years, will the deal still hold on? Also, who knows if after 7-8 years if people are still interested in superhero movies with so many superhero movies releasing every year. Also, if some of these new comers got big, it would means scheduling nightmare.

I think they just need a smaller budget and a better script to keep things fresh and going.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

They don't need to wait forever to release a sequel they just need a good script with a strong hook for the audience. That's not easy to do of course.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Yes. Get a new director with a fresh take (it'd be great if Singer stayed on as producer, however) and please bring back Jane Goldman as screenwriter. It would really help.



I really don't see why. These comic title-rebrandings didn't work for The Incredible Hulk or The Amazing Spider-Man. Neither were incredible or amazing, and they also were disappointments at the box office.

I think there is a reason Marvel Studios also elected to avoid "Ultimate Spider-Man" or "Spectacular Spider-Man" for next year's standalone. A nice bit of fan service that does not really communicate much to the general audience, as it turns out.

what your forgetting singer only produced first class was because he was suspose to direct it and took an on hands producer role when he couldn't direct it when he owed another film with WB.

as fan of him and his X-men films including apocalypse i hope he doesn't be involved if he doesn't direct after finishing 20,000 league under the sea he just walks away from X-men.Also some need to accept it may be Kinberg who writes next film rather w elike it or not.Kinberg is way too tied into films.

we are likely 3 or 4 years from next X_men film depending on how soon X-force is made.

 

[DACrowe]

Depends on what else is there. If other more successful properties are already there, you won't want to mess with them. No one wants to be anywhere near Beauty and the Beast next year.

True but I am looking more at 2019 or 2020. Actually, 2019 makes sense because they can get a jump in March like Deadpool and BvS did before the summer season and as far as I know there aren't too many major threats there.

I suppose the risk is also ending up like Huntsman 2. But that movie would have bombed no matter the month.

 

[sleekstereo]

2018/2019 release seems likely

 

[Silver Surfer]

I hope they convince Jackman and just do a true X-Men 4.

 

[DACrowe]

what your forgetting singer only produced first class was because he was suspose to direct it and took an on hands producer role when he couldn't direct it when he owed another film with WB.

as fan of him and his X-men films including apocalypse i hope he doesn't be involved if he doesn't direct after finishing 20,000 league under the sea he just walks away from X-men.Also some need to accept it may be Kinberg who writes next film rather w elike it or not.Kinberg is way too tied into films.

we are likely 3 or 4 years from next X_men film depending on how soon X-force is made.

Things can change, but yes if Singer wants to walk away that is fine. Kinberg will be a producer for a long time on the series, but that doesn't mean he can't look at the reception and box office of Apocalypse (and Fox too) and realize that they need a new voice doing the screenplay. Yes, it would be accepting your mistakes, but hopefully he is big enough to do that.

 

[marvelrobbins]

2018/2019 release seems likely

it won't be 2018.2019 is earliest.2020 is possibly if X-foce is fox's 2019 summer film then defently 2020.

 

[Xrated48]

2019 seems like a good year to release the next x-men main series film

 

[marvelrobbins]

I hope they convince Jackman and just do a true X-Men 4.

very unlikely that happens.It was hard enough to get jackman to do the apocalypse cameo.he seems detminded to make solo wolverine his last.

 

[Tilapia]

I assume Fox signed couple of films with these new comers, but if they need to wait for another 7-8 years, will the deal still hold on? Also, who knows if after 7-8 years if people are still interested in superhero movies with so many superhero movies releasing every year. Also, if some of these new comers got big, it would means scheduling nightmare.

I think they just need a smaller budget and a better script to keep things fresh and going.

McAvoy and Hoult will be unsigned, so the idea that you need to get them on the cheap won't hold water. We don't know what kind of deal those kids signed onto. Could have been a one shot thing.

Regardless, the box office doesn't warrant a sequel in the next 3-4 years with this cast, and considering all the plans with Deadpool and expanding the present day timeline, it shouldn't be a priority.

You have to build into the next trilogy. It will take time. I also believe X-Men will have a role in Gambit potentially. Just not the central focus as that would be too expensive for a Gambit movie. Maybe a Mystique spinoff is in the cards if JLaw wants that massive paycheck. There are filler movies you can do in between.

 

[Sithborg]

I hope they convince Jackman and just do a true X-Men 4.

One of the reasons this movie will do okay is that they didn't have to pay the OT cast. Which sounds like it was a really good chunk of the budget.

Just recast Jackman. It was bound to happen eventually, and if the marketing is smart, it will play up his last appearance as Wolverine in Wolverine III.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Things can change, but yes if Singer wants to walk away that is fine. Kinberg will be a producer for a long time on the series, but that doesn't mean he can't look at the reception and box office of Apocalypse (and Fox too) and realize that they need a new voice doing the screenplay. Yes, it would be accepting your mistakes, but hopefully he is big enough to do that.

If FF didn't damage Kinberg apocalypse won't.Not to mention he is producing all the X-men related films.and despite FF fox is having him write X-force.
Remember after first class they still hired Kinberg to write DOFP.and let's not pretend FC was giant monster hit.

 

[marvelrobbins]

McAvoy and Hank will be unsigned, so the idea that you need to get them on the cheap won't hold water. We don't know what kind of deal those kids signed onto. Could have been a one shot thing.

Regardless, the box office doesn't warrant a sequel in the next 3-4 years with this cast, and considering all the plans with Deadpool and expanding the present day timeline, it shouldn't be a priority.

You have to build into the next trilogy. It will take time. I also believe X-Men will have a role in Gambit potentially. Just not the central focus as that would be too expensive for a Gambit movie. Maybe a Mystique spinoff is in the cards if JLaw wants that massive paycheck. There are filler movies you can do in between.

Those hired for apocalypse have 2 more films on their contract.last thing we need is mystique solo film.

timeframe for both gambit and the new mutants are unknown.rumor is new mutants will be set in past with Mcavoy returning as Xavier.the gambit rewrites could very well moved setting to past.

I don't understand mentality of X_men fans who want to quit doing X_men films for spin-offs.there is no way of telling they will all turn out like deadpool.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

First Class was well received. That was more important than being a giant hit after X3 and Origins tarnished the series creatively

 

[ImSGirl95]

there is no way of telling they will all turn out like deadpool.

They won't.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

I'm hoping for a new X-Men movie next year or maybe early 2018. I just can't wait to see more of young Jean, Cyclops, and maybe they could bring Angel, Beast and recast a young Iceman.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Regardless, the box office doesn't warrant a sequel in the next 3-4 years with this cast, and considering all the plans with Deadpool and expanding the present day timeline, it shouldn't be a priority.

If they wanna keep the cast they have on contract then yeah they kinda do have to do it before their contracts expire, i dunno how many years they have on that though but i am gonna guess 2019 is the latest for the next movie

 

[Logan0327]

They don't need to wait forever to release a sequel they just need a good script with a strong hook for the audience. That's not easy to do of course.

thats one of the major reasons this film isn't doing so hot at the BO deadpool,BVS,Civil War,Suicide Squad all have fresh unique hooks to get the general audiences attention

having the x men battle the evil villain who wants to destroy the world is as cliche and generic as it gets and doesn't hook the audience

 

[kguillou]

Actually, I don't think it is that generic and cliche. None of the other X-Men films have had a plot where the X-men have to work as a team against a big powerful villain. I mean, I GUESS you could sort of say the first X-Men film with Magneto was about that but this film was a breath if fresh air to me which is why I dont quite understand why people are saying "been there, done that." Plus, isn't that essentially what the MCU movies are building towards with Thanos?

 

[ciscostudent561]

Thanos an intergalatic threat thats taking 9 movies and 9 years to build towards
plus its spawns across 2 super teams (Avengers\GOTG)
you cant really compare bro

 

[kguillou]

But my point is ultimately its leading to a "good guys vs. big evil baddie" confrontation which, really, we haven't REALLY seen that many times in these superhero films (probably because the technology wasn't there to fully realize these types of villains). We're now at a point where we can see epic baddies like Apocalypse, Thanos and Darkseid on screen done the right way.

Point is, audiences will gravitate towards it at as long as its fun and the audiences likes the characters.

 

[ImSGirl95]

(probably because the technology wasn't there to fully realize these types of villains). We're now at a point where we can see epic baddies like Apocalypse, Thanos and Darkseid on screen.

Yeah ... but was there any technology on Apocalypse?
Seriouslly, Apocalypse the way he was done, could have been done easily in the 2000s.

 

[Alison Blaire]

Fox need back to the present time.Bring back the original Cast and new characters/actors.