Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 4

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Yeap, The Wolverine is a weird case, I'm not sure how to analyze how X3, Origins, FC, The Wolverine and DoFP all affected each other, but if Wolverine, at least, is not a box office saviour, maybe is not a requirement either.

I think all things equal, audiences generally prefer an X-Men movie with Wolverine. He is the most recognizable character of the franchise and has been played wonderfully by Hugh Jackman for nearly 20 years. He is a staple of the franchise that I think audiences generally want to see. But like you said, I do not think he can unilaterally either save a movie or crush it.

But I firmly believe that GA loves the OT, or at the very least they are really put off by not being able to make heads or tails of continuity (specially with Mystique)

I dunno. I mean, X1 is nearly 20 years old. The people who were young when it came out, would be nostalgic for it, etc are, by and large, aged out of that coveted 16-30 demographic. A new generation makes up the prime movie going audience and I think First Class is their new norm.


I don't think it's really fatigue as people getting bored or growing tired of superhero movies, as monetary fatigue: each year they have to pay for more and more superhero movies and all kind of fantasy movies as well, and there is a limit to how much money can be made overall in the box office. But I don't think people are really that tired of superhero movies: BvS might be a dud, but the OW numbers were good, people wanted to see it, and CW had a strong OW, with not so great but still respectable legs , and might end up as the 3rd or 4th DOM Marvel movie ever. All of that in 2 months with 2 pretty similar (in theme) movies.

I dunno. Time will tell. I still think Infinity War is going to be the real test.

Blockbusters have been like that for years now. It's rare that a movie makes it past 2 weeks, #1 at the box office.

And I agree that it's because that TV has gotten better, and that it doesn't take a year for a movie to go from theater to home viewing. Batman v. Superman came out in March and it will be on downloadable this month. That's a little over 3 months.

True, true. It is also important to keep in mind that, in the past 20 years, in the post-Sopranos era (if you will), TV has surpassed film in terms of quality of storytelling. It is a medium that allows audiences to understand characters better, to gain a better understanding and investment in them, etc. In the post-Game of Thrones era, it has, in some cases, even surpassed film in terms of spectacle and scale. Factor in that with the social media era being what it is, TV invites weekly speculation, theorizing, and interaction...it has just become a more comprehensive and readily available medium and in many ways has surpassed film. I think that plays a big role in the diminishing returns of film.
 
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