Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - Part 2

[marvelrobbins]

Let's remember Xavier In Comics was American.They cast Patrick Stewart in part virtully everyone agreed he would be great as Xavier.

When they were casting First Class they went looking at UK based actors.Yes i know Stewart and James Mcavoy come from different parts of UK but they still went for a UK actor.

Although the biggest concern is if they cast a british actor as Cyclops in getting him to do american accent.

Yeah it is possable they may just cast who they want and hope not too many fans ntoice not matching the ending of DOFP If that Is suspose to remain In cannon with new films.

If they are planning a new trilogy whoever is cast as Cyclops,Jean,and Storm may have to agree to 4 films.That could be something which Chloe Moretz
may not want to do.Which is a factor why she could be least likely of the main 3 actresses being looked at for Jean.

 

[marvelrobbins]

They arent gonna ignore the happy future scene in Dofp unless they want to make another continuity error. Plus the movie is just so recent, its just gonna be messy if it happens. Even if they make multiple films with these new actors, they would still act as the younger version. And after the 1980s I dont think they should continue jumping forward to the 90s then 2000s. Like X1 is just set 20 years after Apocalypse like what Kinnbergsaid.

Let's remember that even before the Wolverine entered production they were making plans to erase film from cannon.Ok if you want to you can still view the WW II flashback as Cannon but since plot is so driven by wolverine's guilt for killing Jean.

Kinberg's comment about characters could be born earlier makes it unprediable on who will show up.I wouldn't put it past them at some point to ignore future ending.That probally won't happen In Apocalypse but could happen in future films.Especilly if Bryan SInger doesn't direct anymore films after Apocalypse.Change of directors is when problems start.

 

[scatterax]

I don't see this version of the xmen ever going into space. All the non mutant villains that aren't anti mutant humans have been changed to mutant. (Viper, juggernaut)

Instead, I would rather they focus on sinister after apoc. Then maybe do a cable story with both apoc and sinister, or someone who can manufacter the legacy virus. Onslaught and shadow king would be great counters to Xavier's powers.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Let's remember Xavier In Comics was American.They cast Patrick Stewart in part virtully everyone agreed he would be great as Xavier.

When they were casting First Class they went looking at UK based actors.Yes i know Stewart and James Mcavoy come from different parts of UK but they still went for a UK actor.

Although the biggest concern is if they cast a british actor as Cyclops in getting him to do american accent.

Yeah it is possable they may just cast who they want and hope not too many fans ntoice not matching the ending of DOFP If that Is suspose to remain In cannon with new films.

If they are planning a new trilogy whoever is cast as Cyclops,Jean,and Storm may have to agree to 4 films.That could be something which Chloe Moretz
may not want to do.Which is a factor why she could be least likely of the main 3 actresses being looked at for Jean.

Do you really think people look at Famke's Jean Grey and say oh she's Dutch, not American?

 

[psylockolussus]

This argument of that they are ignoring Famke's Jean Grey in the upcoming films because they aren't casting a Dutch actress for a younger version of Jean is just really?

Ian Mckellen is British and yet the person who played the younger version of Magneto is half Irish/half German.

Let's remember that even before the Wolverine entered production they were making plans to erase film from cannon.Ok if you want to you can still view the WW II flashback as Cannon but since plot is so driven by wolverine's guilt for killing Jean.

Kinberg's comment about characters could be born earlier makes it unprediable on who will show up.I wouldn't put it past them at some point to ignore future ending.That probally won't happen In Apocalypse but could happen in future films.Especilly if Bryan SInger doesn't direct anymore films after Apocalypse.Change of directors is when problems start.

I think you're just jumping to conclusion quite easily. The news outlet didn't hint any possibility of Fox ignoring the new happy future that was seen in DOFP.

And FYI I wasn't talking about The Wolverine, I was talking about the new future seen in DOFP. Some thing might have been wiped out because of the time-travel but that doesn't include the new future we just saw this year.

 

[marvelrobbins]

This argument of that they are ignoring Famke's Jean Grey in the upcoming films because they aren't casting a Dutch actress for a younger version of Jean is just really?

Ian Mckellen is British and yet the person who played the younger version of Magneto is half Irish/half German.


I think you're just jumping to conclusion quite easily. The news outlet didn't hint any possibility of Fox ignoring the new happy future that was seen in DOFP.

And FYI I wasn't talking about The Wolverine, I was talking about the new future seen in DOFP. Some thing might have been wiped out because of the time-travel but that doesn't include the new future we just saw this year.

Bryan Singer had Michael Fassbender attempt to sound more like Ian Mckellen In DOFP.

We will likely go from having actress as Jean as american and then in future suddenly having slight accent.

As far as Apocalypse goes they may still keep ending In Cannon and it's even withen the realm of possibilty that Patrick Stewart makes a cameo appearance.But what happens if Singer doesn't direct any of next trilogy.Gaven Hood,Brett Ratner,and even Matthew Vaughn have proven other directors In series muke things up.

And what will happen If they cast a more dark skined actress as Storm?

 

[JEM]

If it is dark skined actress like Lupita, there is a problem .
But, if the skin is more like Nicole Beharie, it is good .
I didn't know Famke was dutch and the audience too

 

[Super Jim]

Not sure why an actress like Chloe Moretz wouldn't be jumping at the chance to sign on for 4 films over the next decade or so. She already has a huge career, and this would make her star shoot even higher.

She'd effectively become the next JLaw!

If anything, her name being the more recognized of the three indicates that she's the most likely choice for Jean!!!!!

Oh, and going into space is pretty much the best way to expand this movie-verse as it gives you Shi'Ar, Starjammers, etc.

 

[kasjan]

All the non mutant villains that aren't anti mutant humans have been changed to mutant. (Viper, juggernaut)

Juggernaut was a mutant in Ultimate.

 

[BobJM]

I like JLaw's discussions about Mystique being the face of mutantkind, and therefore in hiding. I imagine wherever she is, that's where we'll find Wolverine...maybe she's the leader of a Morlock-esque group going back to the "mutant and proud" idea from FC.

I definitely want to see three factions of mutants: Xavier's X-Men, Magneto's brotherhood, and Mystique & Wolverine's crew.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I like JLaw's discussions about Mystique being the face of mutantkind, and therefore in hiding. I imagine wherever she is, that's where we'll find Wolverine...maybe she's the leader of a Morlock-esque group going back to the "mutant and proud" idea from FC.

I definitely want to see three factions of mutants: Xavier's X-Men, Magneto's brotherhood, and Mystique & Wolverine's crew.

What makes you think Mystique will have her own crew.Wolverine Is good
possibilty to be horseman.

Mystique if not also a horseman could very well be working on her own.Jennifer Lawrence has hinted at Mystique being In hiding when Apocalypse begins.

A list actresses being looked at for teenage Jean Grey hints at least Jean out of 3 new confirmed mutants will have somewhat of key role.

It's one things to have 5 or 6 characters like in DOFP at various places it's entirely different to have 3 different teams before we even get to APocalypse and his forces.

People often complain about too many characters In X-Men films and no devolpment for most.

 

[Super Jim]

^ Right, but if you analyze what we have you must come to the same conclusion as I have, as follows:

- They will be looking to resolve the issues between Mystique and Professor X
- They will be looking to resolve the issues between Mystique and Magneto
- They will be looking to resolve the issues between Erik and Charles
- They will be looking to resolve any Beast related issues (are there any?)

That means that, more than likely, the "factions" at the start of the movie will be:

- Professor X and some semblance of the X-Men
- Magneto (with, or without a team)
- Mystique (with, or without a team)

And then, of course, you'll have Apocalypse and his story, as the main villain. In addition will be his Horsemen (likely), which I've surmised will include Wolverine.

Yes, they could put other known characters in as Horsemen, like Mystique, Magneto and Havok, but doing so will greatly take away from those characters. It's hard for me to see more than one (Wolverine) in this role.

- Something will be happening with Wolverine. Mystique saved him for a purpose, and that will need to play out. Will he be woth her? Will she give him to Apocalypse, or a servant of Apocalyse (like Sinister), which would lead to him being tranformed into a Horseman? Will she have let him go?

One thing that is very likely is that whatever reason Mystique took him will lead to him getting his adamantium back.

So yes, there is likely to be many different things (factions) going on at the start. But more than likely at least two of these will combine very quickly. My best guess is that Mystique (with, or without a team) will be trying to do something, like breaking out a mutant from some government facility, gets into trouble, and ultimately is saved by Magneto (with, or without a team). This would bring them together and allow the story of their resolution to begin. We'll likely learn about why he had to leave, what happened to Raven after he left, possibly how Kurt was born, meaning her relationship with Azazel, etc. She'll be upset at how he tried to kill her, but he'll have a valid answer for why he did what he did, etc. I don't believe there will be total forgiveness at this point, but these two "factions" would now be together, which would likely lead to them working together against Apocalypse.

Of course Xavier will not be with Mystique or Erik. He'll likely be with Beast and will be working to develop his school. Some students, including the big three, may already be there. Maybe it's only some of them and we'll get to see him/them go find the missing one (like Storm). Maybe we'll see them find another, like Nightcrawler, which makes sense as it plays into Mystique's story.

And all of this is before we even get into what Apocalypse will be doing.

The point is that there will have to be a lot going on, and these four "factions", at least to start, make very logical sense...

 

[myra]

Didn't see this posted yet...

Mystique Is Hiding in 'X-Men: Apocalypse' Says Jennifer Lawrence

Jennifer Lawrence reveals that her character Mystique should be in hiding when we catch up with her in 'X-Men: Apocalypse'.

There is little we know about 20th Century Fox's X-Men: Apocalypse, except that it will close out the trilogy featuring the younger characters from X-Men: First Class and X-Men: Days of Future Past, and that it will be set in the 1980s. While promoting The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1, Jennifer Lawrence revealed in an interview with IGN that her character Mystique should be in hiding, following the events of X-Men: Days of Future Past.

"She's very complex. She's a hero to her own race in a way which makes her a villain to her opposite race. I don't really know where she's going to go. I've had a few conversations about where we'll find her. She obviously needs to be in hiding somewhere."

We also reported last week that the sequel will focus on Mystique's relationship with Michael Fassbender's Magneto, while also addressing her burgeoning romance with Beast that fans saw grow in both X-Men: First Class and X-Men: Days of Future Past. However, since Mystique left with Magneto at the end of X-Men: Days of Future Past, it remains to be seen how that will affect Mystique and Beast's feelings for one another.
We reported last month that Tom Hardy is being eyed to play the villain Apocalypse, while director Bryan Singer and producer Simon Kinberg are also seeking actors and actresses to play a young Jean Grey and a young Cyclops. Chloe Moretz, Elle Fanning and Hailee Steinfeld are in the mix to play Jean Grey, while Ben Hardy, Charlie Rowe and Timothée Chalamet are in contention for the Cyclops role.
X-Men: Apocalypse comes to theaters May 27th, 2016. The film is directed by Bryan Singer.

http://www.movieweb.com/x-men-apocalypse-mystique-jennifer-lawrence

 

[hoy-small-fry]

Hiding makes sense, she needs to keep a low profile. Even though she saved the day at the White House, she was the face of the mutant problem for a time (and almost killed Trask)

 

[BeholdMe]

If it is dark skined actress like Lupita, there is a problem .
But, if the skin is more like Nicole Beharie, it is good .
I didn't know Famke was dutch and the audience too

What?? I saw don't look for look alikes and just choice actors/actresses whom can actually act not just good looks.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

And what will happen If they cast a more dark skined actress as Storm?

Apart from you whining? Nothing. You are the only one who cares so pathetically about these minutiae.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/11/20/why-x-men-should-reboot-after-apocalypse

 

[BobJM]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/11/20/why-x-men-should-reboot-after-apocalypse

Such a lack of imagination--especially when we've got solo Wolverine, Deadpool, and Gambit films coming out that will tap in to new stories within this universe.

First, they're assuming Apocalypse will be a one-and-done villain when he could potentially reappear I'm future installments.

Second, they're disregarding plenty of villains/storylines that could be explored including Mr Sinister, Morlock Massacre, Asteroid M/Avalon, Genosha, Magneto's Alcolytes, reincarnated Hellfire Club with Shinobi Shaw, Cassandra Nova, Onslaught, Bastion & Operation Zero Tolerance, etc.

Plus we've got X-Force, Exiles, Excalibur, X-Factor, and other teams that could be spun off as well.

Point is, part of this series' appeal is it's longevity. DOFP messed with history, but clearly all the past films are important since it lead up to the dark future. The films may not have a linear timeline of events, but that doesn't mean they're not connected.

 

[JP]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/11/20/why-x-men-should-reboot-after-apocalypse

Seriously?

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

X-Men Days of Future Past basically gave a reboot without having to start over.

The main players are going to be introduced and aside from the characters in the dofp epilogue having to be alive and in the mansion anything can happen between Apocalypse and 2023.

That's 40 years before they catch up to the future with essentially a blank slate for storytelling.

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In reference to a post above I'd LOVE to see Morlocks. Some Mutants will manifest with Mutations that make them ugly and noticeable to the ret of humanity so a ragtag group of ugly Mutants living underground would be something is love to see

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

X-Men Days of Future Past basically gave a reboot without having to start over.

The main players are going to be introduced and aside from the characters in the dofp epilogue having to be alive and in the mansion anything can happen between Apocalypse and 2023.

That's 40 years before they catch up to the future with essentially a blank slate for storytelling.

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In reference to a post above I'd LOVE to see Morlocks. Some Mutants will manifest with Mutations that make them ugly and noticeable to the ret of humanity so a ragtag group of ugly Mutants living underground would be something is love to see

I'm with this gentleman right here.

I used to be the one clamoring the loudest for a reboot. And with DoFP I feel like I got just what I wanted. It was an intelligent, relevant and creative reboot of a series that was (in my opinion) stumbling.

The guys in the video are a little misguided. I mean, I do see their point to an extent. If it were me, Apocalypse wouldn't be the first villain the new Scott/Jean/Ororo are tasked with defeating. I'm under the impression Apocalypse would scrape any teenage X-Men off of his boots while eating their organ meat for supper.

However, we don't know how this movie is going to play out. Not only that, but we don't know how it will affect the franchise as a whole. I'm excited to see.

( ALSO THIS IS MY 5000th POST!! GASP!!! )

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I think that although Apocalypse is their most grandiose villain the X-Men franchise has lots of untapped potential for villains as they've got a big rogues gallery

 

[EnDz0n3]

First of all who are these clowns? Most of the journalists on IGN are pro-Singer X-menverse.

Second, am I the only one that doesn't get what the big deal is with Apocalypse? He's not the be-all-end-all of X-men villains. And I really dread the reassignment of some X-men characters from continuity as Horsemen. I don't want to see these X-men characters not acting like themselves. It's bad enough most of these characters will not have much screen time. To have them show up on screen, possessed, is worst IMO.

 

[Hamill-Joker]

Ugh, that IGN video made me so frustrated. I feel like right now the franchise is in a great position and is building momentum.

But no, Let's Reboot Everything!!! So long Jackman, McAvoy, Lawrence, Fassbender, etc...

Such a stupid, stupid, stupid idea. I couldn't even watch the whole thing, it made my head hurt. Did one of them ever say "Give the rights back to Marvel"?

I don't get the complaints at all. Sure the continuity isn't the greatest, but is actual comic book continuity really all that much better?

No matter what there are going to be some continuity errors in this series because there isn't some grand plan for it.

Should Marvel reboot everything after Infinity War because Thanos is the big video game boss at the end? Ugh...

People think too much about things like "it can't get any bigger than this, so why bother". Look at the James Bond series as an example for how to proceed. When one movie reaches an over-the-top level, usually the next movie is on a smaller level. Instead of a villain trying to take over the world, the motive is a more personal one or even just some type of espionage.

 

[jed]

You know, for continuity sake, they should just get the girl who played jean in X3, and the guy who played Cyclops in X Men Origins: Wolverine.