Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 31

[sleekstereo]

It wont be a trilogy, especially since the younger set are contract to only two more films.

It will be a two part film. Focusing on the Phoenix and the Shi'Ar Empire first then on the Dark Phoenix.

I wouldn't be surprised if the after credits scene is about the Shi'Ar.

 

[freshandclean]

The whole "run out on wife and son" part of that story wasn't exactly a shining moment for him.

The original Dark Phoenix Saga itself had nothing to do with that. It was Claremont and the fallout after TDPS and X-Factor that did all that. I'm assuming the movieverse isn't gonna have a clone of Jean come back in the next movie and have her marry Scott, have them have baby Cable, have Jean come back to life, have Scott unceremoniously dump wife/child, have said clone go insane, etc. etc.

To retell The Dark Phoenix Saga without the most important aspect (IMO) would be super disappointing. Do people really think her suicide has so little to do with the story that it could just be swept under the table or replaced with something else?

 

[sleekstereo]

Singer said he probably wouldn't do the next one since Apocalypse wore him out. 2 seems to be the limit for directors on these huge franchise pics. Wouldn't be surprised if Fox and Singer approached someone to take over the reins for awhile.

I wouldn't mind if it was Joss Whedon.

 

[X-Maniac]

Well, I finally saw some XM:A marketing. It was in a Vue cinema in the UK, where they had posters on the walls.

The poster displays are now digital screens rather than actual paper posters, so they weren't static, but the XM:A posters came up twice, once with J-Law Raven at the front, and another time with Magneto at the front.

I'd gone to see The Jungle Book (great CGI, not-so-great 3D).

 

[2kt09]

I wouldn't mind if it was Joss Whedon.

I would.

 

[Legion]

Agreed which is why I have my reservations about the possibility of other worlds/galaxies etc in this X-Men cinematic universe. If it's developed properly then it's cool but I just don't want it to be forced and not make sense. Like I said both DC and Marvel's universe are super heavy on this now and X-Men always seems just behind everyone else and it always looks like they're copying when they aren't.

How so? X-Men introduced Wolverine as an ageless war veteran before MCU introduced Captain America.

X-Men introduced Quicksilver in DOFP before Age of Ultron, along with an army of killer robots. The vision Stark had of the dead Avengers seemed a lot like the future of DOFP except...it never ended up happening.

Also the upcoming film Civil War...government interference...choosing sides...that's like what every X-Men film has been about.

X-Men pathed the way for all of the other films but for other reasons MCU films have resonated more with the general audience. I don't see what the X-Men films have done to copy them (MCU / DCU) in anyway.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I would.

as would i.he needs to focus on his own creations and not adapting others.

while i call avengers ok and AOU meh i was fan of his pre AOS tv shows+
Serenity.

If singer only produces next film my advice for director is get Christopher Mcquarre after he finishes Mission Impossible VI.He has history with Singer
plus rogue nation and jack reacher both sold me on him as good director.

 

[JJLong]

If singer only produces next film my advice for director is get Christopher Mcquarre after he finishes Mission Impossible VI.He has history with Singer
plus rogue nation and jack reacher both sold me on him as good director.

McQuarrie is a good possible choice, but I think he is busy with the Mission Impossible franchise.

It would never happen, but I would love to see David Fincher direct an X-Men movie.

 

[Sithborg]

The original Dark Phoenix Saga itself had nothing to do with that. It was Claremont and the fallout after TDPS and X-Factor that did all that. I'm assuming the movieverse isn't gonna have a clone of Jean come back in the next movie and have her marry Scott, have them have baby Cable, have Jean come back to life, have Scott unceremoniously dump wife/child, have said clone go insane, etc. etc.

To retell The Dark Phoenix Saga without the most important aspect (IMO) would be super disappointing. Do people really think her suicide has so little to do with the story that it could just be swept under the table or replaced with something else?

Just responding the the talk about her revival, which was a bit more quickly resolved in the cartoon.

I wouldn't mind if it was Joss Whedon.

As a writer, sure. Director, no.

 

[The Guard]

We wanted magic/supernatural - but Doctor Strange is doing it first

Technically SPAWN did it before DR. STRANGE, and SUPERGIRL before that, and the other DR. STRANGE movie did it back in the 70's, but let's not get encumbered by detail.

 

[Havok83]

Technically SPAWN did it first, and SUPERGIRL before that, and DR. STRANGE did it back in the 70's, but let's not get encumbered by detail.

Im pretty sure he's talking about the modern era of Superhero films that is currently going on and that started with Xmen in 2000

^Agreed. They never even bother to say why he did such a thing.

No it made more sense than the comics to kill a character off only to have her reappear in several different ways (Madelyn/Rachel/What If's) just to eventually bring her back anyway.t:

It was a cop out to bring back into the comics in so many ways after her "deaths" it made sense to say the Phoenix is its own entity rather than make it apart of her innately as it finished the story arc rather than letting it linger indefinitely.

that was irrelevant to how the story was originally written. All that stuff happened after the fact and werent part of the DPS. The ending to it in TAS was weak but acceptable bc it was a kid show and they werent about to have one of the main characters be murdered or commit suicide. That was too dark for a Saturday morning cartoon in the 90s. The films are alot more sophisticated than that and dont need to take a childlike approach with this. If its the end of a trilogy of films, I dont see what the big deal is with killing her. She and her story will be done anyway. I dont like it but its too integral to the saga to just ignore

 

[Frankeh]

How about...

Edgar Wright
Robert Zemeckis
Brad Bird (hopefully he'll bounce back with Incredibles 2 after that dreck that was Tomorrowland)

 

[The Guard]

I can see elements of the Phoenix Saga being split into two films, similar to X2 and X3. And I'm all for Sinister and a new chapter of the Hellfire Club being involved in any Phoenix storyline.

 

[Nerial]

I wouldn't mind if it was Joss Whedon.

There are worse choices. But his work always has a little too much of a campy feel for me. It's great for Avengers type of stuff--it makes fun of itself (perfect example, Loki getting interrupted every time he tried to villain monologue).

X-men doesn't work well with campy. Deadpool was an exception because it focused on Deadpool, not X-men.

 

[Havok83]

I thought Avengers AoU was a letdown bc it was too campy. None of the jokes were funny and they felt forced and out of place. I dont think Whedon's style of directing is a good fit for an X-men film.

 

[Frankeh]

I'd love Whedon to write the next X-Men film. He would certainly be leaps and bounds better than Kinberg at that.

 

[EnDz0n3]

FOX won't leave it to long after apocalypse because you will lose the momentum of apocalypse, its like hinting to phoenix and then taking until 2021... at that point the buzz of apocalypse may die down while they are doing all these middle non-related movies.

As for a whole trilogy about the phoenix saga... i think that would be a risky thing to try since phoenix isn't a 2 part event movie like the say the avengers: infinity wars and not really like the way they are doing justice league either

Even apocalypse which people kept saying should be 2 parts is 1 part for a reason.

You've only accepted Infinity Wars and Justice League as 2-parter movies because it's happening that way. I'm sure if (when?) they announce Phoenix Saga as a 2-parter you would agree then as well.

 

[2kt09]

How about...

Edgar Wright Literally just throw all the money at him til he can get this done
Robert Zemeckis He sort of faded into obscurity
Brad Bird (hopefully he'll bounce back with Incredibles 2 after that dreck that was Tomorrowland)
All I've been hearing is he got dealt with a terrible co-writer. Also same sentiments as Wright

mmkay.

 

[kineticist]

All this Phoenix talk makes my Jean Grey fanboy heart happy lol

 

[YoungBlood]

Imagine if we got Damon Lindelof as the writer for X-Men movies?

 

[pavlov]

The Wachowskis if we're going to space.

 

[Frankeh]

The Wachowskis if we're going to space.

Wachowskis aren't been given more big-budget projects I think -- they've had consecutive flops.

 

[YoungBlood]

Wachowskis aren't been given more big-budget projects I think -- they've had consecutive flops.

They would set Fox back like it was the 2nd coming of Cleopatra (a film that almost killed Fox)

 

[kineticist]

Let's hope for the trailer this week haha

 

[jaymes_e06]

Im pretty sure he's talking about the modern era of Superhero films that is currently going on and that started with Xmen in 2000



that was irrelevant to how the story was originally written. All that stuff happened after the fact and werent part of the DPS. The ending to it in TAS was weak but acceptable bc it was a kid show and they werent about to have one of the main characters be murdered or commit suicide. That was too dark for a Saturday morning cartoon in the 90s. The films are alot more sophisticated than that and dont need to take a childlike approach with this. If its the end of a trilogy of films, I dont see what the big deal is with killing her. She and her story will be done anyway. I dont like it but its too integral to the saga to just ignore

It makes no sense and quite frankly it is tired. I'm sick of seeing her die. In TPS she appears to die at least twice then she comes back for TDPS and she kills herself permanently. I'd rather The All New X-Men appraoch be seen it were she knows of the original timeline and goes against it. Not to mention it goes against the timeline as we know Jean now survives into the future.