Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 31

[Malik]

Savage land was always wtf to me, I'll be plenty happy with the shiar. Arcade could be the x-men's joker too.

 

[kevork89]

DoFP and Apocalypse are proof it isn't ground level anymore.

 

[BeholdMe]

I don't consider DOFP ground level at all.

The little we got in the future no I don't think so either but everything else yes, it was a mixture between both to show they can do it. I actually really wish we could have seen them in action but there really was no one for them to battle lol

 

[kevork89]

The human threat is always going to play into X-Men. It's apart of their story. Mutants and humans existing together. There never is true peace between the two.

 

[BeholdMe]

That is true I edited my post lol

 

[kevork89]

Oh well we will see once apocalypse is finished.

 

[psylockolussus]

There is only one true Jean Grey.

You better preach now!

Anyway, when are they gonna announce X-Men: Phoenix? and I'm assuming this would take place in 1993. I hope they bring in Mr. Sinister just like what I suggested before.

 

[Havok83]

You better preach now!

Anyway, when are they gonna announce X-Men: Phoenix? and I'm assuming this would take place in 1993. I hope they bring in Mr. Sinister just like what I suggested before.

Why would you assume that? I really dont think they need to jump that far ahead in the timeline.

 

[psylockolussus]

I'd be down to see Spiral. She would bring something new (visually) to the franchise.

She would be so fierce if done right! I just cannot imagine putting her on screen with six arms and not steal the show! And let her battle with Psylocke because you know both of them are sword masters! t:

 

[Malik]

New mutants supposedly is set in the 80's, phoenix can be set in the late 80's perhaps?

 

[freshandclean]

The little we got in the future no I don't think so either but everything else yes, it was a mixture between both to show they can do it. I actually really wish we could have seen them in action but there really was no one for them to battle lol

I just think it's harder to scale down than to scale up. I think they need to build up to the cosmic aspect. Like First Class was ground level. Then DOFP upped the anti. Then Apocalypse is where you blew your load, so to speak. With a new pseudo trilogy next (or at least a beginning to something) it's a good time (especially if it's an "early adventures of the X-Men" type movie) to scale down so that they have something to build towards. That doesn't mean they have to revert back to X1 days, but I think a lot of cool things can be done with Sinister/Mauraders/Morlocks.

 

[Illuminata]

There is only one true Jean Grey.

Sadly I can't say the same for Paquin's Rogue or Berry's Storm. I never want to see them in these roles again.

I'm so looking forward to Shipp's Storm, she's already delivering in the short scenes I've seen of her already.

 

[psylockolussus]

Why would you assume that? I really dont think they need to jump that far ahead in the timeline.

Because thats why they did in the past two films.

I don't really see any reason for them not to jump to year 1993, especially when the original trilogy and the films featuring the OT cast were set in 21st century Fox. Unless they want to do another 80s period film.

 

[Havok83]

Because thats why they did in the past two films.

I don't really see any reason for them not to jump to 1993, especially when the original trilogy and the films featuring the OT cast were set in 21st century Fox.

just bc they did that doesnt meant they will continue doing so. The trilogy that began in FC had a specific goal and that was to tell the tale of the relationship between Xavier, Erik and Raven, which spanned decades. With this now over, there is no reason to jump ahead again, especially since they just established a new team. They have a relatively young cast playing young roles. We dont need them mid to late 20s in the next film. This series needs to slow down not continue to jump around in the timeline. The further you go forward, the more of a stretch it is to still see McAvoy play Xavier. He already looks too young in 1983. I cant see him playing a beleivable Xavier in his 60s if they jump ahead another decade.

 

[freshandclean]

New mutants supposedly is set in the 80's, phoenix can be set in the late 80's perhaps?

I don't even really understand why the New Mutants is set in the 80s. If the main X-Men team (filled with adolescence) is set in the early 80s, I would think New Mutants should be set in the 90s where the main team would have been around for like a decade. It would even help with ushering the team closer to the present timeline.

 

[psylockolussus]

just bc they did that doesnt meant they will continue doing so. The trilogy that began in FC had a specific goal and that was to tell the tale of the relationship between Xavier, Erik and Raven, which spanned decades. With this now over, there is no reason to jump ahead again, especially since they just established a new team. This series needs to slow down not continue to jump around in the timeline. The further you go forward, the more of a stretch it is to still see McAvoy play Xavier. He already looks too young in 1983. I cant see him playing a beleivable Xavier in his 60s if they jump ahead another decade.

You know if Ant-Man can give us a 60-year-old-looking Peggy Carter, I don't see why X-Men can't make James McAvoy three times older than he is today. Like to be honest, I found it really lazy that they didn't make the FC actors age that much on screen in DOFP and now Apocalypse.

Anyway, it is not much of an issue for me whether it is set in the 90s or 80s, it is still in the past.

 

[BeholdMe]

I just think it's harder to scale down than to scale up. I think they need to build up to the cosmic aspect. Like First Class was ground level. Then DOFP upped the anti. Then Apocalypse is where you blew your load, so to speak. With a new pseudo trilogy next (or at least a beginning to something) it's a good time (especially if it's an "early adventures of the X-Men" type movie) to scale down so that they have something to build towards. That doesn't mean they have to revert back to X1 days, but I think a lot of cool things can be done with Sinister/Mauraders/Morlocks.

I see what your saying but I don't want them to revert back to the OT that was very grounded and I'm liking the direction they are heading in now. They are slowly working towards different things which is why I feel by the next 2 movies it'll be a great time to introduce the space aspect not saying right now. I don't want the Morlocks to much but would loooooove Sinister I think that's a logical next step

 

[psylockolussus]

I don't even really understand why the New Mutants is set in the 80s. If the main X-Men team (filled with adolescence) is set in the early 80s, I would think New Mutants should be set in the 90s where the main team would have been around for like a decade. It would even help with ushering the team closer to the present timeline.

They should be set in the present with the New Mutants squad being mentored by one of the OT characters preferably an adult Cyclops portrayed by James Marsden.

Seeing Colossus train Negasonic Warhead Teenage, made me want to see the other X-Men to do that in a movie.

 

[BeholdMe]

They should be set in the present with the New Mutants squad being mentored by one of the OT characters preferably an adult Cyclops portrayed by James Marsden.

Seeing Colossus train Negasonic Warhead Teenage, made me want to see the other X-Men to do that in a movie.

That would fit for a team called New Mutants it's a little weird having New Mutants possibly in the same time period since the main XMen are new themselves. Im curious to see how it will play out with that property.

 

[freshandclean]

just bc they did that doesnt meant they will continue doing so. The trilogy that began in FC had a specific goal and that was to tell the tale of the relationship between Xavier, Erik and Raven, which spanned decades. With this now over, there is no reason to jump ahead again, especially since they just established a new team. They have a relatively young cast playing young roles. We dont need them mid to late 20s in the next film. This series needs to slow down not continue to jump around in the timeline. The further you go forward, the more of a stretch it is to still see McAvoy play Xavier. He already looks too young in 1983. I cant see him playing a beleivable Xavier in his 60s if they jump ahead another decade.

I agree they need to establish and work with the young cast. But eventually, they have to bring the team to present time. I just can't see how they can accomplish that without a) time travel, b) sliding time scale, or c) retiring the current team and using a new set of mutants (a la The Avengers after Infinity War). But who's left? Off the top of my head, Rogue, Iceman, Gambit, Colossus, Kitty, Illiyana, Dazzler, Wolverine...

 

[Frankeh]

She would be so fierce if done right! I just cannot imagine putting her on screen with six arms and not steal the show! And let her battle with Psylocke because you know both of them are sword masters! t:

Yes, she also has to have her classic look. No other way around it.

 

[psylockolussus]

But who's left? Off the top of my head, Rogue, Iceman, Gambit, Colossus, Kitty, Illiyana, Dazzler, Wolverine...

Polaris, M, Thunderbird, Forge, Sunfire, Longshot, Lockheed, Marrow, Maggott, Cecilia Reyes, Armor, Frenzy, Chamber, Surge, Mercury, Blindfold, Ariel, Pixie, Northstar, Mimic, Changeling, Vulcan, Sway, Petra, Sage and Stacy X to name a few.t:

 

[freshandclean]

So much to choose from...

 

[psylockolussus]

Out of the mutants that I mentioned I want to see: Polaris, Forge, Sunfire, Longshot, Marrow, Northstar, Sage and Stacy X.

 

[BeholdMe]

I agree they need to establish and work with the young cast. But eventually, they have to bring the team to present time. I just can't see how they can accomplish that without a) time travel, b) sliding time scale, or c) retiring the current team and using a new set of mutants (a la The Avengers after Infinity War). But who's left? Off the top of my head, Rogue, Iceman, Gambit, Colossus, Kitty, Illiyana, Dazzler, Wolverine...

I'm not sure how or even if they are coming to the present right now it does look like they are staying in the past. I suggested they bring them to the present as they did in All New XMen but honestly idc what time frame they are in as long as they continue to tell good stories I'll be in that theater first day. I hope they don't make a current time XMen with a bunch of unknowns.