Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 41

[carpenter82]

Not a fan of that design. It looks like he's wearing something out of Prometheus, not ancient Egypt, or the 80's.

Also, not sure if this has been brought up here but I thought the sound in this movie was quite good. Cyclop's optic blasts, Kurt teleporting, Apocalypse's voice, Jean's scene at the end, Psylocke's Psionic blade etc. Might be my favorite sound mix from any X-Men film.

 

[Smilodon]

I actually thought Kurt's 'bamf' noise was better in X2. It was more subdued this time around, not as loud. It was less 'bamf'. Not bad though, just prefer the X2 one. Cyclops' optic blasts did sound nice though.

Apocalypse's voice was a good compromise between letting Issac speak and referencing his voices from the cartoons.

 

[Retroman]

just came across this early Apocalypse design by Jerad S Marantz:

I can't believe they didn't choose this one instead of the movie version. At least Isaac could have been able to act in this costume and use his body and facial expressions...

Thanks for sharing.

While the face is okay i feel he looks like some kind of alien being in that kind of suit.The final look in the film was much more regal and fitting for someone who thinks they are God IMO.

 

[DavidHaller]

I want to see some X-Men space madness next! The combination of X-Men's "Phoenix Saga" and "Brood Saga" could work nicely together as one movie, in my eyes. Let the Brood and Deathbird work for D'Ken. They can do the "Dark Phoenix Saga" in a later movie...no need to hurry that storyline!

Hopefully this time they will pay more attention to the screenplay!! "X-Men: Apocalypse" was mainly a bad movie because of a dull and boring plot without any creative ambition (+ very weak unimaginative action)...

Although I love Singer's X-Men movies (minus "X-Men: Apocalypse"!), I think they should get a different director showcasing the X-Men in space. Trekkie or not it is clearly not Singer's strength to produce a fantastic space opera. Singer would be perfect for something like "X-Tinction Agenda/Genosha" but I doubt that he can do a more fantastic topic convincingly!

I could imagine that this particular storyline could even attract Joss Whedon to do the movie.

 

[halo10]

Well, I have a big problem with how the horsemen, other than Mags, were handled. Having[BLACKOUT] Psylocke be completely possessed and still be able to survive and overcome him[/BLACKOUT] would go a long way as a redemption for [BLACKOUT]her (you know, for willingly participating in mass murder)[/BLACKOUT]. But I just don't see how what we saw justifies this idea.

Was that because you wanted to see the traditional 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse - the comic look.... and non- Xmen/ non- Magneto ?

I like Stinger stayed with the traditional Psylocke look and uniform, and gave her " sword-light" powers. But the possession of Psylocke was almost
similar to the Dark Phoenix

Storm and Psylocke was pretty much mummed after Apocalypse was introduced to both of them.

 

[DarkSouls]

So do any of you guys think Oscar Isaac could return as Apocalypse? I really loved his performance and it really seemed like he had fun playing the character. What's funny is that it seemed like they took a lot from the Shadow King and put it into Apocalypse. From having a mental battle with Charles to being the one who finds Storm in Egypt, would any of you be surprised if Apocalypse resurfaces as still living in Charles' brain or having had taken refuge in Psylocke's? Or maybe he's in Jean's and is slowly turning the Phoenix dark... I don't know, I'd just like to see Apocalypse again.

 

[halo10]

To be fair from looking at that design, that certainly wouldn't be a win fans over design either

it could appear to " spacey" to a number of viewers, maybe that's why the
placed the hooded claw look on Apocalypse on too much of the movie, IMO.

When they did that, I thought it was daring to be something similar to the horrific Doctor Doom-look in the 1st Fantastic 4 movie.

 

[Endeavor]

Was that because you wanted to see the traditional 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse - the comic look.... and non- Xmen/ non- Magneto ?

I like Stinger stayed with the traditional Psylocke look and uniform, and gave her " sword-light" powers. But the possession of Psylocke was almost
similar to the Dark Phoenix

Storm and Psylocke was pretty much mummed after Apocalypse was introduced to both of them.

No, I didn't mind that the characters selected weren't the same as the traditional horsemen. What bothered me is that those X-Men were sacrificed and wasted into background characters and their stories going forward sabotaged. Unless of course continuity is completely ignored, once again, which is very likely taking this franchise's history into account.
Even Angel, which is an original horseman, was completely mishandled and then killed off. Even Apocalypse called him useless, and he was. What a total lack of respect for the character.

 

[halo10]

So do any of you guys think Oscar Isaac could return as Apocalypse? I really loved his performance and it really seemed like he had fun playing the character. What's funny is that it seemed like they took a lot from the Shadow King and put it into Apocalypse. From having a mental battle with Charles to being the one who finds Storm in Egypt, would any of you be surprised if Apocalypse resurfaces as still living in Charles' brain or having had taken refuge in Psylocke's? Or maybe he's in Jean's and is slowly turning the Phoenix dark... I don't know, I'd just like to see Apocalypse again.

I don't think they will bring back Apocalypse. It's done and gone.
And it didn't turn out the opening weekend as they hoped in the domestic box office so I doubt the interest element is going to be there.
It's on the next epic.

I would they think they would want to move onto Mister Sinister, the Hellfire Club, ...Dark Phoenix- reboot,.. the Brood,.. Shiar Saga, they've already fouled up the Juggernaut so I don't see how they could go there with the Xavier step-brother saga. Would they include Shadow King ?

if anything I think we will have to see if there is going to be a Weapon X involvement in either Wolverine 3 or Xmen.

 

[halo10]

and again there was no explanation or development with the phoenix force - it just showed up out of the background. If the phoenix force is so critical, then can we properly get it's origin, and why Jean Grey has it ?

And I didn't get the timeline. how does Havok have the same look between 1962 and 1983 ( back in 1st class up to modern day 1980's)

I thought Nightcrawler character was lost and under-developed in this also, a far cry than what Kurt Wagner of the munic circus was in Xmen: United.
Seemed like more pawn than a major player.

Quicksilver was somewhat subdued after being a smash-humor hit in Days of Future Past.

 

[Endeavor]

and again there was no explanation or development with the phoenix force - it just showed up out of the background. If the phoenix force is so critical, then can we properly get it's origin, and why Jean Grey has it ?

That part doesn't really need an explanation if they're going with Phoenix's original appearance, which was an aspect of Jean's powers and nothing to do with any alien cosmic entity. If that's what they're going with, then it was portrayed correctly (albeit rushed).

 

[sabetoonth]

Was that because you wanted to see the traditional 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse - the comic look.... and non- Xmen/ non- Magneto ?

I like Stinger stayed with the traditional Psylocke look and uniform, and gave her " sword-light" powers. But the possession of Psylocke was almost
similar to the Dark Phoenix

Storm and Psylocke was pretty much mummed after Apocalypse was introduced to both of them.

To be honest, I took this as a sign when he boosted their powers he had planted some mind control as well making them more faithful soldiers. If you notice, he never enhanced Erik's powers, only guided him to use its maximum potential. Storm only was shook out of it witnessing Apocalypse and her personal hero fighting(well, him choking her out).

 

[Mjölnir]

To be honest, I took this as a sign when he boosted their powers he had planted some mind control as well making them more faithful soldiers. If you notice, he never enhanced Erik's powers, only guided him to use its maximum potential. Storm only was shook out of it witnessing Apocalypse and her personal hero fighting(well, him choking her out).

It didn't seem any easier to sway Magneto than Storm though. I never got the impression that there was meant to be any difference.

Not that I know why Storm was OK with Apocalypse having Magneto kill tons of mutants (as only those strong enough to survive would join them in the new world) but changed just because he choked Mystique, who's powers aren't really the kind that would help her survive the Magneto apocalypse.

 

[ApophènX]

It didn't seem any easier to sway Magneto than Storm though. I never got the impression that there was meant to be any difference.
Not that I know why Storm was OK with Apocalypse having Magneto kill tons of mutants (as only those strong enough to survive would join them in the new world) but changed just because he choked Mystique, who's powers aren't really the kind that would help her survive the Magneto apocalypse.

I don't think there was difference either, he use strong images feeling what they needed to hear. He had a kind of god omnipotence in that regard. For Magneto he spoke himself as the one who will burn the forest, so where Magneto lost his daughter and linked at his painfull memories, linking Aushwitz to the forest and the douvble family lost with double awakening to earth power really deepens the emotion.

Apocalypse have a super ego but also allow other to project themselces in him. It's only for Lagneto that he tells he use to be xalled Ra or other gods name, solething Magneto can relate to as he have a messiah kind of complex, believing he ow to save everybody. In that regard Apocalypse accomplish his revealer fonction, he only reflects the world around him.

That's why Storm stop when he chocks Mystique, she was looking for mother figure and only found a false father one. It doesn't need complexity, it's the genuine emotion that drive the fight to Charles freeing Jean. Apocalypse loosing all his precious follower, because he give them what they wanted, their ego's desire, and they will overcome that to form a family, overcome individualism.

In fact the duo Raven/Quicksilver is interesting. Storm like Quicksilver was looking for a father/mother figure, they were both living in a basement and thief. So Quicksilver smash Apocalypse, get smashed, Mystique help him and then Storm understand, then Magneto get the X right. In the end for Apocalypse shell to be destroyed Storm need to make a lighting. So like the duo Mystique/Quicksilver, mother-son, we have Magneto/Storm duo, father and daughter (erik's daughter had the power to connect to nature like Storm and summon birds, what happen's next? Phoenix) Freaking birds.

The two horsmen that redeem in the end are the ones with family like bound. Erik and Jean re built the house, again a daughter-father relation. Erik said his home was where is family where, they rebuilding the family. When the house was destroyed a family was destroyed. Havok died especially.

It's all family bound full package.

 

[Illuminata]

just came across this early Apocalypse design by Jerad S Marantz:

I can't believe they didn't choose this one instead of the movie version. At least Isaac could have been able to act in this costume and use his body and facial expressions...

Ugh this is why I hate looking at concept arts because their concepts always look superior to the direction they actually go. This would have been a better look than what was in the theatrical. Looks far more sinister and fits with Singer's alternative style.

 

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[BeholdMe]

To be honest, I took this as a sign when he boosted their powers he had planted some mind control as well making them more faithful soldiers. If you notice, he never enhanced Erik's powers, only guided him to use its maximum potential. Storm only was shook out of it witnessing Apocalypse and her personal hero fighting(well, him choking her out).

He did indeed boost Mags power when he grabbed his hand and placed it to the ground at Aushwitcz sorry if I spelled it wrong. As he said reach down he had boosted Mags when he touched him, he had great power but it was never that grand before I mean he raised a buried ship from the ocean floor he had an upgrade.

 

[DarkSouls]

So does anybody know if his power upgrades were permanent or temporary? Because if they're permanent, then there's no more need for Charles to have Cerebro, right?

 

[kevork89]

He didn't boost Charles though like he did Storm, Psylocke and Angel. He acted as a cerebro for Charles. Charles was able to reach everyone through Apocalypse.

 

[Lencho01]

https://www.facebook.com/JoshuaJame...4668681368205/605692099599196/?type=3&theater

 

[BeholdMe]

https://www.facebook.com/JoshuaJame...4668681368205/605692099599196/?type=3&theater

These all look so much better though I love the costumes we got, these just look so much better than what we got.

 

[bes628]

just came across this early Apocalypse design by Jerad S Marantz:

I can't believe they didn't choose this one instead of the movie version. At least Isaac could have been able to act in this costume and use his body and facial expressions...

Fox gonna Fox.


This is fcn awesome.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

This topic never have actual news

 

[Lencho01]

What real news would you expect at this point?

 

[GuestStar2004]

alternative character designs