Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 42

[GuestStar2004]

as i said, its pretty common. but no sequel for the core x-team has been mentioned at all..

Depends who you ask i guess, there were already reports at the premier that the sequel was gonna be set in the 90s or in space ect ect, does that count as being "mentioned"?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I very much doubt they know what they are doing with the next movie, will they decide to do a new version of the phoenix saga? are they gonna do X-Men in space? would they have the guts to do that? do they want a smaller story to set it up? do they wanna jump right into it? do they wanna do another comic storyline?

i am pretty certain announcing apocalypse was an easier decision because apocalypse has likely been sat on the shelve ready to be potentially used for years now while now who knows what they will delve into.

and its likely gonna be a the producers deciding the story and not a new director so there ya go.

that's what im saying though.. right now they have nothing planned because they have no clue what they want to do.. and as you said, its probably weighing risks or options... do they want to keep the same stale format.. or jump into new territory and take chances and risks in hope of being a cornerstone for the genre again.. or do they want to play it safe and be a little late to the party ...

and there's a number of other factors.. reboot or not reboot, Joint effort with Marvel or no joint effort... take the X-men in a completely new direction or not.. etc..

but why i'm saying is Apocalypse did not meet their expectations.. and did not perform how they wanted it to perform.. so now are questioning everything like the questions aforementioned.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Depends who you ask i guess, there were already reports at the premier that the sequel was gonna be set in the 90s or in space ect ect, does that count as being mentioned?

id say no considering it was basically just kinberg and maybe Singer? i can't recall if Singer actually said anything other than he hoped to do proteus some day

 

[GuestStar2004]

that's what im saying though.. right now they have nothing planned because they have no clue what they want to do..

Nope we are on different pages, i am saying they do not know what the next story will be as we are on film 7 technically and they need a story worth telling because we have already had DOFP and Apocalypse so whats next to hype about? phoenix? obviously whatever it is would be a start of a new trilogy most likely.

Apocalypse was easy because the character is a story in itself but i think what they do next will take abit more looking into.

 

[X-Maniac]

... we knew about all the other sequels... X2/X3/Origins/DOFP/Apocalypse ahead of time.. this shouldn't be any different.

I think you're trying to find drama, doubt and suspicion where there isn't any.

Some of the Fox X-Men filmmaking team are working on Legion, some on Wolverine 3, and Singer has left the building to work on his next thing (20,000 Leagues remake).

I really don't think they're sitting in a room with their heads in their hands looking at a blank piece of paper, they're just doing other stuff at the moment.

If they do another main X-Men movie it would probably be set in the 90s, and it would then take two further movies to catch up with the Deadpool timeline, which is three decades ahead of X-Men Apocalypse.

Unless Cable does some time-warping stuff, or they leap more than one decade (in which case waiting for a few years for actors to age wouldn't be a bad thing!)

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think you're trying to find drama, doubt and suspicion where there isn't any.

Some of the Fox X-Men filmmaking team are working on Legion, some on Wolverine 3, and Singer has left the building to work on his next thing (20,000 Leagues remake).

I really don't think they're sitting in a room with their heads in their hands looking at a blank piece of paper, they're just doing other stuff at the moment.

If they do another main X-Men movie it would probably be set in the 90s, and it would then take two further movies to catch up with the Deadpool timeline, which is three decades ahead of X-Men Apocalypse.

Unless Cable does some time-warping stuff, or they leap more than one decade (in which case waiting for a few years for actors to age wouldn't be a bad thing!)

Not at all... a green-lit announcement saying "one is coming" doesn't take the amount of calibration you actually think it does.. and its usually the studio mandating it and not the crew.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Nope we are on different pages, i am saying they do not know what the next story will be as we are on film 7 technically and they need a story worth telling because we have already had DOFP and Apocalypse so whats next to hype about? phoenix? obviously whatever it is would be a start of a new trilogy most likely.

Apocalypse was easy because the character is a story in itself but i think what they do next will take abit more looking into.

I still thnk we are on the same page.. because im saying the same thing.. just expanding on it... you don't have to know what story you're telling before you greenlight.. Spider-man 3 & 4 were greenlit (as well as Fantastic 4 2) prior to having a story pitch for the films

 

[JEM]

I think we will hear news in october with XA blu-ray. Not necessary X-Men sequel but New Mutants.
In fact, New Mutant are more chance to happen than Gambit or X-Men sequel right now. Beside, the roster could tell us their plan for X-Men franchise in the future.

 

[RalphieRandy]

what is "ordinary people" id wager anyone who frequents social media or uses an app like Flixter uses rotten tomatoes... I mean if you're just a casual internet user.. fine.. but that's pretty much people 40+ 40 and under .... all are probably quite ordinary, use social media alot .. and probably check out RT on occasion in one form or another.

That's not altogether true.Just because people frequent social media doesn't mean they pay attention to rotten tomatoes. Some people don't care whether critics or other faceless strangers like or dislike a movie. People focus too much on sites like that. How many movies have gotten low scores but the person found out that they loved the movie or vice versa? And as another poster said, some people let scores affect their opinions too much. People miss out on a movie they may otherwise like all because others said they didn't like it.

 

[superweirdo87]

DOFP wasn't announced before the First Class DVD/Blu-Ray came out. It was announced in 2012.

 

[LoganGambit87]

 

[spideyboy_1111]

That's not altogether true.Just because people frequent social media doesn't mean they pay attention to rotten tomatoes. Some people don't care whether critics or other faceless strangers like or dislike a movie. People focus too much on sites like that. How many movies have gotten low scores but the person found out that they loved the movie or vice versa? And as another poster said, some people let scores affect their opinions too much. People miss out on a movie they may otherwise like all because others said they didn't like it.

when did i say "all people" i didn't. nothing is that black and white.. but the majority certainly do...

 

[Sithborg]

OMG, I NEEDS it!!!

 

[marvelrobbins]

I think you're trying to find drama, doubt and suspicion where there isn't any.

Some of the Fox X-Men filmmaking team are working on Legion, some on Wolverine 3, and Singer has left the building to work on his next thing (20,000 Leagues remake).

I really don't think they're sitting in a room with their heads in their hands looking at a blank piece of paper, they're just doing other stuff at the moment.

If they do another main X-Men movie it would probably be set in the 90s, and it would then take two further movies to catch up with the Deadpool timeline, which is three decades ahead of X-Men Apocalypse.

Unless Cable does some time-warping stuff, or they leap more than one decade (in which case waiting for a few years for actors to age wouldn't be a bad thing!)

Singer is executive producer on both legion and TBA new tv show.it really seems for now it is Kinberg who is devolping next full X-men.

i think some need to get hands out of sand.nothing that suggests they plan on catching up to deadpool.Original cast won't be used again after wolverine solo film and people think they will scrap entire fc/DOFP/APocalypse cast.
New mutants is probally going to be set in past if rumors are true.who knows about gambit.The plan seems to be for deadpool sequels and wolverine solo to led into X-force if rumors are true on X-23.

Doing spin-offs films delays next X-men film.

 

[JEM]

Kinberg on X-Men

Even with all these films in development, Kinberg is still attached to the main X-Men film series. He is just thinking about what a follow-up to X-Men: Apocalypse will be. “I’m a lifer for the X-Men movies,” Kinberg said. “I’m just working now, without giving anything away, I’m figuring out what the next of the mainline X-Men movies is going to be.”

 

[spideyboy_1111]

ugh.. i don't want the hands of the X-men to be in his control.. nor his idea of where to go next... he needs nixed

 

[Sithborg]

I think Kinberg is going to involved as a producer, no matter what. As for creative control, that is another matter.

 

[GuestStar2004]

it will likely be the producers deciding what the next story is and then they will get a director onboard, but i am willing to bet bryan singer will have thrown in some ideas also on left field

 

[spideyboy_1111]

i feel like it should be writers throwing out ideas for sequels.. that way they pick the writers with the story they like best... not the studio heads. they tend to be out of touch with the audiences...

 

[def28]

Agreed.

 

[X-Maniac]

i think some need to get hands out of sand.nothing that suggests they plan on catching up to deadpool.

Well, they will catch up with Deadpool (in other words, catch up with the present day) in three films.

Singer says they are doing one movie in every decade. With Apocalypse being in the 80s, and the next one likely to be in the 1990s, that leaves two more films after that to get it into modern times. Since they usually conceive them as a trilogy, that would bring the X-Men into the present day. The same time period as Deadpool, whether they interact with him or not.

The next trilogy could be set as follows: 1990-1999, 2000-2009, and 2010-2019.

The only thing with that is that we're already in 2016, and by the time they do that trilogy, another decade could have passed by the time of the third film, lol...

 

[JEM]

If you want to create a universe, you need to have plan. Whatever you like it or not, Kinberg (with Shuler Donner) control the universe like Kevin Feige and Kathleen Kennedy. So they have to know what they want.

Writer or not, Kinberg will (and should) have some ideas for the next X-Men movie before pick new writers. It doesn't mean others writers can't have some fresh ideas but Kinberg and Donner need to have global vision.

For now, it seems to work with Deadpool team, James Mangold and i hope with Boone. But you can't expect Kinberg to be here and do nothing. He has the best place right now.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Part of kinbergs job is to keep this universe mapped

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Well, they will catch up with Deadpool (in other words, catch up with the present day) in three films.

Singer says they are doing one movie in every decade. With Apocalypse being in the 80s, and the next one likely to be in the 1990s, that leaves two more films after that to get it into modern times. Since they usually conceive them as a trilogy, that would bring the X-Men into the present day. The same time period as Deadpool, whether they interact with him or not.

The next trilogy could be set as follows: 1990-1999, 2000-2009, and 2010-2019.

The only thing with that is that we're already in 2016, and by the time they do that trilogy, another decade could have passed by the time of the third film, lol...

The decade hopping needs to stop... it's terribly unbelievable at this point.. another 10 year jump is just asinine. No one ages

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Part of kinbergs job is to keep this universe mapped

Well if that's his job, he's not doing it.