Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - Part 12

[GuestStar2004]

Prof X and Rogue only get good sendoffs in the Rogue cut of the film

Prof X got his extra send off in Logan... even though it was a tragic send off but i think that was the point.

Sometimes its not always about gloried send offs i guess.

If Fox X-Men move over to the MCU its probably gonna be the new Cast. at this point there is only so many times you can hold on to the OC thinking they are sitting on the shelve preparing to be used for a big come back.

 

[Frankeh]

The Original Trilogy had increasing numbers at the BO. Prequel trilogy fluctuated and the obvious difference is presence of the OT cast.

Also I prefer the OT over the Prequel Trilogy for sure. More X-Men members and no soft-reboot decade jumps.

 

[2kt09]

The Original Trilogy had increasing numbers at the BO. Prequel trilogy fluctuated and the obvious difference is presence of the OT cast.

And that they kept ramping things up.

Folks on here keep saying DOFP should have been the bookend of the FC trilogy.
Dark Phoenix has to aim for better than TAS-lite.

 

[Frankeh]

It’s also possible this franchise is too long in the tooth, and it peaked with DOFP. But that doesn’t bode well for Dark Phoenix, does it?

 

[2kt09]

It’s also possible this franchise is too long in the tooth, and it peaked with DOFP. But that doesn’t bode well for Dark Phoenix, does it?

It's not a 18 year old tv show.
If Dark Phoenix has nothing refreshing to showcase, then it is what is.

 

[BMM]

It’s also possible this franchise is too long in the tooth, and it peaked with DOFP. But that doesn’t bode well for Dark Phoenix, does it?

It peaked in 2006. The international box office just softens the blow.

 

[Alison Blaire]

Nobody wants to see teenage X-Men, nobody wants to see PREQUELS. Move forward not backwards for god's sake!

Oh God,Yes!Only need one last movie with the lovely Xmen Original Cast.

 

[EnDz0n3]

It peaked in 2006. The international box office just softens the blow.

Pretty much this.

 

[x-er]

I think a film between these two teams would be a worldwide hit at the box office:

I agree it's expensive, but least they wouldn't have to pay any actors who really don't wanna be there. And their delivery is pretty much guaranteed!

(Of course, the line-ups and costumes wouldn't be the same above)

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I think a film between these two teams would be a worldwide hit at the box office:

Sure it can be. But a film version of MCU Avengers and MCU X-men would be an even bigger hit.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

where were all these people seeing Logan that didn't see The Wolverine? or is there more to what drives people to see these movies then just recognition?

Better trailers and everyone wanted to see X-MAN's and his father's conclusion

 

[Iceman]

Sure it can be. But a film version of MCU Avengers and MCU X-men would be an even bigger hit.

Feels like there is actually a chance of this happening one day now.

 

[Derrick]

The Original Trilogy had increasing numbers at the BO. Prequel trilogy fluctuated and the obvious difference is presence of the OT cast.

Also I prefer the OT over the Prequel Trilogy for sure. More X-Men members and no soft-reboot decade jumps.

Personally prefer the prequel trilogy.

 

[Frankeh]

Miss them

 

[x-er]

Sure it can be. But a film version of MCU Avengers and MCU X-men would be an even bigger hit.

How so?

Personally prefer the prequel trilogy.

Again, how? Personally, it's as if HBO's Game of Thrones had swapped creative teams on their third season and gone so bad they decided to start prequel seasons with a new cast and they've been stuck on prequels ever since, when the fans know the source material goes on to greater things. Does that version of GoT sound like fun? Does it put this into perspective at all? It's also the fourth prequel installment. Usually, a trilogy stops at #3.

XMen had a lot of potential (much like Game of Thrones) to continue to be a great franchise. If only Singer had made XMen 3. Better yet, if only they had given Singer a chance at making an X4: Apocalypse like they had planned. Too many strikes, man.

And it's not a budget issue. (1) It was planned ahead of time. (2) They had Hugh Jackman and Jennifer Lawrence appear in Apocalypse.
(3) Characters come and go. Marvel's setting up Antman, Wasp, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Dr. Strange, and Spiderman precisely because other longtime characters like Thor and Iron Man will eventually go out, and that brings down the cost of the cast. Where's Fox on that? They never gave us a proper Emma Frost, Gambit, Angel, a fully-developed Rogue and the list continues. (I still think Rogue and Cyke could've taken the lead) (4) You don't give Mystique the lead, for crying out loud. You wanted to correct an effed up timeline and lead to an even bigger mess? No! You should've killed Mystique and written Jennifer Lawrence out in Days of Future Past. That's what should've changed the timeline.

Also, Hugh Jackman was in 7 seven films in the role. That could have been at least five or six X-Men films and one or two spin offs.

 

[x-er]

And for the record, the only one of the big three that cut it was Michael Fassbender. I mean whose idea was it to make Professor X a drug addict in Days of Future Past? And why do you need to put two fingers on your head to read minds? Stewart didn't need that, man. That's just telepathetic!

 

[magneto23]

Again, how?

Because FC, DOFP, and Apocalypse are collectivly better. X1 is kind of dated now. FC is easily superior. DOFP and X2 are close enough. Apocalypse and TLS are close too. But at least Apocalypse didn't disintegrate Xavier and kill Cyclops off screen.

 

[GuestStar2004]

And why do you need to put two fingers on your head to read minds? Stewart didn't need that, man. That's just telepathetic!

Its a Visual Cue.

 

[Charzhin0]

A rushed MCU xmen vs MCU Avengers wouldnt be big as if they used the original FoX-Men. Even though comic characters are a big sell by themselves, the actor playing that character is still a big draw, especially ones that have had a long connection with them like some of the FoX-Men. Just imagine if someone other than Robert Downy Junior took the mantle of Ironman and Sam Wilson became the next Cap in the new age of MCU after Infinity War is done. I doubt itll get the same hype and viewership.

Fassbender for example has been playing Magneto for 8 years. A fight between him and RDJs Ironman would create more hype and attention than a completely recast Magneto in 2 years.

Now you can point to Tom Holland and Spiderman. But that is 1 character. We're talking about a team with multiple members which is a bigger challenge to recast.

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[GuestStar2004]

A rushed MCU xmen vs MCU Avengers wouldnt be big as if they used the original FoX-Men. Even though comic characters are a big sell by themselves, the actor playing that character is still a big draw, especially ones that have had a long connection with them like some of the FoX-Men. Just imagine if someone other than Robert Downy Junior took the mantle of Ironman and Sam Wilson became the next Cap in the new age of MCU after Infinity War is done. I doubt itll get the same hype and viewership.

Fassbender for example has been playing Magneto for 8 years. A fight between him and RDJs Ironman would create more hype and attention than a completely recast Magneto in 2 years.

Well even Elizabeth Olsen assumed that if she ever got to meet Magneto in the MCU that it would be Michael Fassbender. same as Emma Dumont who assumes that if Polaris ever got to meet her father it would be Michael Fassbender. I think everyone just wants to work with Michael Fassbender tbh.

Although i will say i still don't think the actors carry THAT much weight. i feel cross overs in general are gimmicks that attract people even if certain audiences haven't seen one of the things thats crossing over. its just a glossy type of cool gimmick that people hear about and wanna see what the fuss is about.

In general thats what the Avengers was wasn't it? the individual movies didn't exactly break the bank but then the big cross over event did break the bank making the highest box office for the MCU yet.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

A rushed MCU xmen vs MCU Avengers wouldnt be big as if they used the original FoX-Men. ]

The FoX-Men look physically weaker and scrawny (other than Wolverine) compared to the Avengers. It wouldn't look right imo

 

[EnDz0n3]

Well even Elizabeth Olsen assumed that if she ever got to meet Magneto in the MCU that it would be Michael Fassbender. same as Emma Dumont who assumes that if Polaris ever got to meet her father it would be Michael Fassbender. I think everyone just wants to work with Michael Fassbender tbh.

It's safe to say if Fassy's Magneto does meet Olsens' Wanda (and that's a big If) in the MCU film that you're proposing, they won't be father-daughter considering the latter would have been 12 when he fathered her...

The Fox movies can barely keep their continuity straight with each other, how much so Fox movies to Fox TV continuity so it's also safe to say Emma's Lorna won't be meeting her dad anytime soon, and if she did it won't be Fassy.

Both actresses calling Fassy daddy would just be hilariously bad.

 

[Davidstorm]

X-men at MCU will not happen so soon
probably if they are to change the cast again, they will wait a few years (I bet something around 5 or 7 years) so it does not get saturated, we are talking about a franchise that would be going to its third exchange of actors in a short space of time, this is not so simple to be done.

and changing a little subject, I read yesterday in a site that the agreement between fox / disney, if everything happens right is going to be closed in 2019 probably at the end of the first semester, so DP is not in danger of being canceled as some have thought, but different from DP, new mutants gets in a tricky situation as it will be released after the agreement.

 

[GuestStar2004]

There could also be 2 or 3 more FOX movies produced in that time from now to then.

 

[Davidstorm]

I think new mutants
will go straight on some streaming platform likely to hulu
or become an exclusive franchise of hulu.